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S09E02 The Witch's Familiar
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Agamemnon
2015-09-26 22:54:11 UTC
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The Witch's Familiar

New title sequence... still waiting for one.

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So another episode that was supposed to be telling the story of Davros
is given a title referring to Clara. What did Clara exactly do to
deserved this? Absolutely nothing, just like before.

Just as everyone predicted Missy and Clara did not die but were
teleported to a safe place outside of the city. How Clara ended up
hanging from a rock upside down I don't know. Missy then explains how
she pinched the idea from the Doctor so that Moffat can waste some more
time with irrelevant material like he did in the first part.

Was the Master supposed to have had a daughter? Maybe it was Susan. I
hope not.

After all the set-up from the previous episode the Doctor somehow
manages to procure himself a Dalek weapon and the next moment Davros is
lying flat on his back out of his wheelchair and the Doctor is prancing
around in it in front of the Dalek Supreme. And what exact purpose does
this all serve? Absolutely nothing plot wise. It's just a feeble device
Moffat has contrived for get the Doctor recaptured and put back at
Davros's mercy again. Why didn't Davros die when he was cut off from his
life support system, what kept his heart beating, what enabled him to
breath? Moffat just played it for laughs. As Frankie Howard once wisely
said, one shouldn't mock the afflicted.

While Missy and Clara try to reenter the city though the sewers which
are full of old and decrepit Daleks the Doctor is back at Davros's
mercy. Somehow Davros has regained the ability to see with his own eyes,
like why does he need an eye in the middle of his forehead if he can use
his own, it was never explained.

Through crocodile tears he eventually manages to convince the Doctor to
use his regeneration energy to heal him, so he can see one last sunrise,
and it all turns out to be a trap to create a new race of hybrid Dalek
Time-Lords and fulfill a prophesy, and with that Moffat once again makes
the same mistakes as The Phantom Menace. Prophesies and science fiction
don't go especially when you have time travel at your disposal. It's all
ridiculous nonsense.

Then finally it turns out the Doctor knew about Davros plot all the long
and let him go ahead with it so that the old decrepit Daleks from the
sewers are given new vigour and rise up and destroy the current ones.
How the Doctor survives regenerating a whole city full of Daleks is
never explained given that the 5th Doctor wasn't capable of healing more
than one for each regeneration in Mawdrin Undead.

In the end the Doctor goes back to boy Davros in order to save him so
that he does not remove concept mercy from the Dalek mutants brains. But
wait a moment isn't that the way he distinguished Clara from a real
Dalek? Well at least Davros understood it.

So all in all a total anticlimax. We didn't get the big speech by the
Doctor that was being billed and nothing neat as powerful as Tom Bakers
lines in Genesis of the Daleks.

The Daleks never seem to pose any kind of threat at all and after you
subtract the wasted half an hour from episode 1 and another 15 minutes
wasted by Missy and the Doctor prancing around at various times in
episode 2 this entire story could have been easily done in just a single
episode.

10/10 for entertainment.

84/100 for the quality of writing of the story. Up until the shoddy
anti-climax with the Doctor reversing the tables on Davros, totally
pulled out of thin air with no foreshadowing at all, I would have given
it almost full marks. Moffat built everything up but didn't know how to
capitalise on it properly an there wasn't really anything to justify
this being a two parter.

Next week's episode looks promising but let's wait and see.
Rob
2015-09-26 23:46:41 UTC
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While Missy and Clara try to reenter the city though the sewers which
are full of old and decrepit Daleks the Doctor is back at Davros's
mercy. Somehow Davros has regained the ability to see with his own eyes,
like why does he need an eye in the middle of his forehead if he can use
his own, it was never explained.
Way too much like Return of the Jedi!
Post by Agamemnon
84/100 for the quality of writing of the story. Up until the shoddy
anti-climax with the Doctor reversing the tables on Davros, totally
pulled out of thin air with no foreshadowing at all, I would have given
it almost full marks. Moffat built everything up but didn't know how to
capitalise on it properly an there wasn't really anything to justify
this being a two parter.
I enjoyed episode 2 but mainly for the many references to Old Who
including the HADS system.

Good fun but not as powerful as Genesis.

Cheers,
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Agamemnon
2015-09-27 23:18:53 UTC
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While Missy and Clara try to reenter the city though the sewers which
are full of old and decrepit Daleks the Doctor is back at Davros's
mercy. Somehow Davros has regained the ability to see with his own eyes,
like why does he need an eye in the middle of his forehead if he can use
his own, it was never explained.
Way too much like Return of the Jedi!
Except unlike Return of the Jedi, Davros does not finally turn to the
light side and we never see why he turned to the dark side either.
Post by Rob
Post by Agamemnon
84/100 for the quality of writing of the story. Up until the shoddy
anti-climax with the Doctor reversing the tables on Davros, totally
pulled out of thin air with no foreshadowing at all, I would have given
it almost full marks. Moffat built everything up but didn't know how to
capitalise on it properly an there wasn't really anything to justify
this being a two parter.
I enjoyed episode 2 but mainly for the many references to Old Who
including the HADS system.
Good fun but not as powerful as Genesis.
True.
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Cheers,
The Doctor
2015-09-27 23:34:13 UTC
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While Missy and Clara try to reenter the city though the sewers which
are full of old and decrepit Daleks the Doctor is back at Davros's
mercy. Somehow Davros has regained the ability to see with his own eyes,
like why does he need an eye in the middle of his forehead if he can use
his own, it was never explained.
Way too much like Return of the Jedi!
Except unlike Return of the Jedi, Davros does not finally turn to the
light side and we never see why he turned to the dark side either.
Quite true.
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84/100 for the quality of writing of the story. Up until the shoddy
anti-climax with the Doctor reversing the tables on Davros, totally
pulled out of thin air with no foreshadowing at all, I would have given
it almost full marks. Moffat built everything up but didn't know how to
capitalise on it properly an there wasn't really anything to justify
this being a two parter.
I enjoyed episode 2 but mainly for the many references to Old Who
including the HADS system.
Good fun but not as powerful as Genesis.
True.
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Cheers,
HADS works every time.
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Stephen Wilson
2015-09-28 16:39:13 UTC
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While Missy and Clara try to reenter the city though the sewers which
are full of old and decrepit Daleks the Doctor is back at Davros's
mercy. Somehow Davros has regained the ability to see with his own eyes,
like why does he need an eye in the middle of his forehead if he can use
his own, it was never explained.
Way too much like Return of the Jedi!
Except unlike Return of the Jedi, Davros does not finally turn to the
light side and we never see why he turned to the dark side either.
Quite true.
Post by Agamemnon
Post by Rob
Post by Agamemnon
84/100 for the quality of writing of the story. Up until the shoddy
anti-climax with the Doctor reversing the tables on Davros, totally
pulled out of thin air with no foreshadowing at all, I would have given
it almost full marks. Moffat built everything up but didn't know how to
capitalise on it properly an there wasn't really anything to justify
this being a two parter.
I enjoyed episode 2 but mainly for the many references to Old Who
including the HADS system.
Good fun but not as powerful as Genesis.
True.
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Cheers,
HADS works every time.
No, it works very infrequently.
TB
2015-09-28 19:31:32 UTC
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While Missy and Clara try to reenter the city though the sewers which
are full of old and decrepit Daleks the Doctor is back at Davros's
mercy. Somehow Davros has regained the ability to see with his own eyes,
like why does he need an eye in the middle of his forehead if he can use
his own, it was never explained.
Way too much like Return of the Jedi!
Except unlike Return of the Jedi, Davros does not finally turn to the
light side and we never see why he turned to the dark side either.
Quite true.
Post by Agamemnon
Post by Rob
Post by Agamemnon
84/100 for the quality of writing of the story. Up until the shoddy
anti-climax with the Doctor reversing the tables on Davros, totally
pulled out of thin air with no foreshadowing at all, I would have given
it almost full marks. Moffat built everything up but didn't know how to
capitalise on it properly an there wasn't really anything to justify
this being a two parter.
I enjoyed episode 2 but mainly for the many references to Old Who
including the HADS system.
Good fun but not as powerful as Genesis.
True.
Post by Rob
Cheers,
HADS works every time.
No, it works very infrequently.
Why didn't the HADS function when the Daleks were dipping the TARDIS in lava (Journey's End)?
The Doctor
2015-09-28 20:03:03 UTC
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While Missy and Clara try to reenter the city though the sewers which
are full of old and decrepit Daleks the Doctor is back at Davros's
mercy. Somehow Davros has regained the ability to see with his own eyes,
like why does he need an eye in the middle of his forehead if he can use
his own, it was never explained.
Way too much like Return of the Jedi!
Except unlike Return of the Jedi, Davros does not finally turn to the
light side and we never see why he turned to the dark side either.
Quite true.
Post by Agamemnon
Post by Rob
Post by Agamemnon
84/100 for the quality of writing of the story. Up until the shoddy
anti-climax with the Doctor reversing the tables on Davros, totally
pulled out of thin air with no foreshadowing at all, I would have given
it almost full marks. Moffat built everything up but didn't know how to
capitalise on it properly an there wasn't really anything to justify
this being a two parter.
I enjoyed episode 2 but mainly for the many references to Old Who
including the HADS system.
Good fun but not as powerful as Genesis.
True.
Post by Rob
Cheers,
HADS works every time.
No, it works very infrequently.
Why didn't the HADS function when the Daleks were dipping the TARDIS in lava (Journey's End)?
Maybe it did.
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TB
2015-09-28 21:00:50 UTC
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While Missy and Clara try to reenter the city though the sewers which
are full of old and decrepit Daleks the Doctor is back at Davros's
mercy. Somehow Davros has regained the ability to see with his own eyes,
like why does he need an eye in the middle of his forehead if he can use
his own, it was never explained.
Way too much like Return of the Jedi!
Except unlike Return of the Jedi, Davros does not finally turn to the
light side and we never see why he turned to the dark side either.
Quite true.
Post by Agamemnon
Post by Rob
Post by Agamemnon
84/100 for the quality of writing of the story. Up until the shoddy
anti-climax with the Doctor reversing the tables on Davros, totally
pulled out of thin air with no foreshadowing at all, I would have given
it almost full marks. Moffat built everything up but didn't know how to
capitalise on it properly an there wasn't really anything to justify
this being a two parter.
I enjoyed episode 2 but mainly for the many references to Old Who
including the HADS system.
Good fun but not as powerful as Genesis.
True.
Post by Rob
Cheers,
HADS works every time.
No, it works very infrequently.
Why didn't the HADS function when the Daleks were dipping the TARDIS in lava (Journey's End)?
Maybe it did.
By causing Donna to touch a hand that was full of regeneration energy, thus causing the hand to grow into a version of the Doctor, and causing Donna to become supercharged with regeneration energy?
The Doctor
2015-09-28 20:01:57 UTC
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While Missy and Clara try to reenter the city though the sewers which
are full of old and decrepit Daleks the Doctor is back at Davros's
mercy. Somehow Davros has regained the ability to see with his own eyes,
like why does he need an eye in the middle of his forehead if he can use
his own, it was never explained.
Way too much like Return of the Jedi!
Except unlike Return of the Jedi, Davros does not finally turn to the
light side and we never see why he turned to the dark side either.
Quite true.
Post by Agamemnon
Post by Rob
Post by Agamemnon
84/100 for the quality of writing of the story. Up until the shoddy
anti-climax with the Doctor reversing the tables on Davros, totally
pulled out of thin air with no foreshadowing at all, I would have given
it almost full marks. Moffat built everything up but didn't know how to
capitalise on it properly an there wasn't really anything to justify
this being a two parter.
I enjoyed episode 2 but mainly for the many references to Old Who
including the HADS system.
Good fun but not as powerful as Genesis.
True.
Post by Rob
Cheers,
HADS works every time.
No, it works very infrequently.
Every time it is used.
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Timothy Bruening
2018-03-30 05:00:51 UTC
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HADS works every time.
No, it works very infrequently.
Every time it is used.
Why is it so seldom used?
The Other Doctor
2018-03-30 12:19:27 UTC
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HADS works every time.
No, it works very infrequently.
Every time it is used.
Why is it so seldom used?
Because not all writers know about it. And because the ones who do know
about it choose not to use it.
Timothy Bruening
2018-03-30 16:51:43 UTC
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HADS works every time.
No, it works very infrequently.
Every time it is used.
Why is it so seldom used?
Because not all writers know about it. And because the ones who do know
about it choose not to use it.
Wouldn't all writers be told about the features of the TARDIS as a matter of course?
The Other Doctor
2018-03-30 17:07:59 UTC
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HADS works every time.
No, it works very infrequently.
Every time it is used.
Why is it so seldom used?
Because not all writers know about it. And because the ones who do know
about it choose not to use it.
Wouldn't all writers be told about the features of the TARDIS as a matter of course?
No. For 3 reasons:

1. There is no document that describes all of the features of the TARDIS

2. As a result, the features of the TARDIS have never remained particularly
consistent

3. If you gave a technical essay to each writer before they even wrote a
story, you'd end up with no writers. All they really need to know is that
the TARDIS is a box that travels through time and space.
Daniel60
2018-03-31 07:14:03 UTC
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HADS works every time.
No, it works very infrequently.
Every time it is used.
Why is it so seldom used?
Because not all writers know about it. And because the ones who do know
about it choose not to use it.
Wouldn't all writers be told about the features of the TARDIS as a matter of course?
1. There is no document that describes all of the features of the TARDIS
2. As a result, the features of the TARDIS have never remained particularly
consistent
3. If you gave a technical essay to each writer before they even wrote a
story, you'd end up with no writers. All they really need to know is that
the TARDIS is a box that travels through time and space.
Fair enough. But wouldn't it be possible for the Executive Producer, or
some such, to have a complete listing of all known facts to check each
script against??

e.g. The Doctor was on Earth during the following years ...........
The TARDIS has the follow capabilities ................
Davros has done the following .............
The Daleks have done the following ...............
The Daleks have appeared during Earth years ............
The Daleks have the following weaknesses ..........
The Cybermen appeared on Earth in the following years ........
The Cybermen have the following weaknesses ............

etc, etc, etc.

At least then there would not be any contradictions .... unless they
were explained as upgrades or some such.
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HADS works every time.
No, it works very infrequently.
Every time it is used.
Why is it so seldom used?
Because not all writers know about it. And because the ones who do know
about it choose not to use it.
Wouldn't all writers be told about the features of the TARDIS as a matter of course?
Maydryn Undead.
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HADS works every time.
No, it works very infrequently.
Every time it is used.
Why is it so seldom used?
Rarely atacked.
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The Doctor
2015-09-27 00:21:03 UTC
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The Witch's Familiar
New title sequence... still waiting for one.
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So another episode that was supposed to be telling the story of Davros
is given a title referring to Clara. What did Clara exactly do to
deserved this? Absolutely nothing, just like before.
Just as everyone predicted Missy and Clara did not die but were
teleported to a safe place outside of the city. How Clara ended up
hanging from a rock upside down I don't know. Missy then explains how
she pinched the idea from the Doctor so that Moffat can waste some more
time with irrelevant material like he did in the first part.
Was the Master supposed to have had a daughter? Maybe it was Susan. I
hope not.
After all the set-up from the previous episode the Doctor somehow
manages to procure himself a Dalek weapon and the next moment Davros is
lying flat on his back out of his wheelchair and the Doctor is prancing
around in it in front of the Dalek Supreme. And what exact purpose does
this all serve? Absolutely nothing plot wise. It's just a feeble device
Moffat has contrived for get the Doctor recaptured and put back at
Davros's mercy again. Why didn't Davros die when he was cut off from his
life support system, what kept his heart beating, what enabled him to
breath? Moffat just played it for laughs. As Frankie Howard once wisely
said, one shouldn't mock the afflicted.
While Missy and Clara try to reenter the city though the sewers which
are full of old and decrepit Daleks the Doctor is back at Davros's
mercy. Somehow Davros has regained the ability to see with his own eyes,
like why does he need an eye in the middle of his forehead if he can use
his own, it was never explained.
Through crocodile tears he eventually manages to convince the Doctor to
use his regeneration energy to heal him, so he can see one last sunrise,
and it all turns out to be a trap to create a new race of hybrid Dalek
Time-Lords and fulfill a prophesy, and with that Moffat once again makes
the same mistakes as The Phantom Menace. Prophesies and science fiction
don't go especially when you have time travel at your disposal. It's all
ridiculous nonsense.
Then finally it turns out the Doctor knew about Davros plot all the long
and let him go ahead with it so that the old decrepit Daleks from the
sewers are given new vigour and rise up and destroy the current ones.
How the Doctor survives regenerating a whole city full of Daleks is
never explained given that the 5th Doctor wasn't capable of healing more
than one for each regeneration in Mawdrin Undead.
In the end the Doctor goes back to boy Davros in order to save him so
that he does not remove concept mercy from the Dalek mutants brains. But
wait a moment isn't that the way he distinguished Clara from a real
Dalek? Well at least Davros understood it.
So all in all a total anticlimax. We didn't get the big speech by the
Doctor that was being billed and nothing neat as powerful as Tom Bakers
lines in Genesis of the Daleks.
The Daleks never seem to pose any kind of threat at all and after you
subtract the wasted half an hour from episode 1 and another 15 minutes
wasted by Missy and the Doctor prancing around at various times in
episode 2 this entire story could have been easily done in just a single
episode.
10/10 for entertainment.
84/100 for the quality of writing of the story. Up until the shoddy
anti-climax with the Doctor reversing the tables on Davros, totally
pulled out of thin air with no foreshadowing at all, I would have given
it almost full marks. Moffat built everything up but didn't know how to
capitalise on it properly an there wasn't really anything to justify
this being a two parter.
Next week's episode looks promising but let's wait and see.
My review in 1 hour 45 minutes.
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Timothy Bruening
2015-09-30 01:18:53 UTC
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The Witch's Familiar
New title sequence... still waiting for one.
What makes you think that there will be a new title sequence this season?
Agamemnon
2015-09-30 02:07:24 UTC
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The Witch's Familiar
New title sequence... still waiting for one.
What makes you think that there will be a new title sequence this season?
One of the probably reasons for the fall in the ratings in the fan wank excuse for a title sequnece.
Timothy Bruening
2015-09-30 04:21:37 UTC
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The Witch's Familiar
New title sequence... still waiting for one.
What makes you think that there will be a new title sequence this season?
One of the probably reasons for the fall in the ratings in the fan wank excuse for a title sequnece.
Have people been turning off their TVs the moment they see the current sequence? Have they been complaining to the BBC?
Stephen Wilson
2015-09-30 16:49:51 UTC
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The Witch's Familiar
New title sequence... still waiting for one.
What makes you think that there will be a new title sequence this season?
One of the probably reasons for the fall in the ratings in the fan wank
excuse for a title sequnece.
Have people been turning off their TVs the moment they see the current
sequence? Have they been complaining to the BBC?
The people that don't like Doctor Who turn off or over. Most people have
better things to do than complain to the BBC. Besides, there are plenty of
people who have no problem with the title sequence.
Agamemnon
2015-09-30 19:54:31 UTC
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The Witch's Familiar
New title sequence... still waiting for one.
What makes you think that there will be a new title sequence this season?
One of the probably reasons for the fall in the ratings in the fan wank
excuse for a title sequnece.
Have people been turning off their TVs the moment they see the current
sequence? Have they been complaining to the BBC?
The people that don't like Doctor Who turn off or over. Most people have
better things to do than complain to the BBC. Besides, there are plenty of
people who have no problem with the title sequence.
The problem is that added together with the choice of Peter Capaldi, his age, his annoying Scottish accent, Missy, Missy's annoying Scottish accent, the late time slot, the childish nature of Capaldi's continual prancing around which does not suit his age and which more mature viewers are not expecting, going up against the X-Factor, the feeble out of thin air plot resolutions, the fact that Jenna is leaving, the lack of any attractive male protagonists, the dark and unfriendly characterisation of the 12th Doctor in the failed manner of the 6th, and Capaldi's stupid sonic dark glasses, Moffat does not needs anything else such as a terrible fan wankey title sequence to drive any more potential viewers away. The ratings were already bad enough for the previous series and the easiest thing to correct would have been the titles. Atlantis was cancelled last Christmas even when it was getting more viewers than Doctor Who got for its season premier this year.
TB
2015-09-30 23:07:48 UTC
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The Witch's Familiar
New title sequence... still waiting for one.
What makes you think that there will be a new title sequence this season?
One of the probably reasons for the fall in the ratings in the fan wank
excuse for a title sequnece.
Have people been turning off their TVs the moment they see the current
sequence? Have they been complaining to the BBC?
The people that don't like Doctor Who turn off or over. Most people have
better things to do than complain to the BBC. Besides, there are plenty of
people who have no problem with the title sequence.
The problem is that added together with the choice of Peter Capaldi, his age, his annoying Scottish accent, Missy, Missy's annoying Scottish accent, the late time slot, the childish nature of Capaldi's continual prancing around which does not suit his age and which more mature viewers are not expecting, going up against the X-Factor, the feeble out of thin air plot resolutions, the fact that Jenna is leaving, the lack of any attractive male protagonists, the dark and unfriendly characterisation of the 12th Doctor in the failed manner of the 6th, and Capaldi's stupid sonic dark glasses, Moffat does not needs anything else such as a terrible fan wankey title sequence to drive any more potential viewers away. The ratings were already bad enough for the previous series and the easiest thing to correct would have been the titles. Atlantis was cancelled last Christmas even when it was getting more viewers than Doctor Who got for its season premier this year.
Have you read any articles that say that Moffat might change the title sequence?
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2015-09-30 23:46:54 UTC
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Post by Agamemnon
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New title sequence... still waiting for one.
What makes you think that there will be a new title sequence this season?
One of the probably reasons for the fall in the ratings in the fan wank
excuse for a title sequnece.
Have people been turning off their TVs the moment they see the current
sequence? Have they been complaining to the BBC?
The people that don't like Doctor Who turn off or over. Most people have
better things to do than complain to the BBC. Besides, there are plenty of
people who have no problem with the title sequence.
The problem is that added together with the choice of Peter Capaldi, his age,
his annoying Scottish accent, Missy, Missy's annoying Scottish accent, the late
time slot, the childish nature of Capaldi's continual prancing around which does
not suit his age and which more mature viewers are not expecting, going up
against the X-Factor, the feeble out of thin air plot resolutions, the
fact that Jenna is leaving, the lack of any attractive male
protagonists, the dark and unfriendly characterisation of the 12th
Doctor in the failed manner of the 6th, and Capaldi's stupid sonic
dark glasses, Moffat does not needs anything else such as a terrible
fan wankey title sequence to drive any more potential viewers away.
The ratings were already bad enough for the previous series and the
easiest thing to correct would have been the titles. Atlantis was
cancelled last Christmas even when it was getting more viewers than
Doctor Who got for its season premier this year.
Is someone holding a gun at your head forcing you to watch a show that
you obviously abhor?
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2015-09-30 23:44:00 UTC
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The Witch's Familiar
New title sequence... still waiting for one.
What makes you think that there will be a new title sequence this season?
One of the probably reasons for the fall in the ratings in the fan wank
excuse for a title sequnece.
Have people been turning off their TVs the moment they see the current
sequence? Have they been complaining to the BBC?
The people that don't like Doctor Who turn off or over. Most people have
better things to do than complain to the BBC. Besides, there are plenty of
people who have no problem with the title sequence.
Actually, I think the new title sequence is an improvement.
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2015-09-30 13:33:13 UTC
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New title sequence... still waiting for one.
What makes you think that there will be a new title sequence this season?
I doubt there would be one.
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In the end the Doctor goes back to boy Davros in order to save him so
that he does not remove concept mercy from the Dalek mutants brains. But
wait a moment isn't that the way he distinguished Clara from a real
Dalek? Well at least Davros understood it.
I'm assuming that Davros only put a smidgen of mercy in the Daleks, so that the Dalek Clara was in would understand the concept and thus be able to say the word. However, the Daleks have so little mercy that they have never showed anyone mercy and behaved just the way the Doctor remembers them behaving.
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In the end the Doctor goes back to boy Davros in order to save him so
that he does not remove concept mercy from the Dalek mutants brains. But
wait a moment isn't that the way he distinguished Clara from a real
Dalek? Well at least Davros understood it.
I'm assuming that Davros only put a smidgen of mercy in the Daleks, so
that the Dalek Clara was in would understand the concept and thus be
able to say the word. However, the Daleks have so little mercy that
they have never showed anyone mercy and behaved just the way the Doctor
remembers them behaving.
It saved Clara.
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The Witch's Familiar
New title sequence... still waiting for one.
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In the end the Doctor goes back to boy Davros in order to save him
so that he does not remove concept mercy from the Dalek mutants
brains. But wait a moment isn't that the way he distinguished Clara
from a real Dalek? Well at least Davros understood it.
I'm assuming that Davros only put a smidgen of mercy in the Daleks,
so that the Dalek Clara was in would understand the concept and thus
be able to say the word. However, the Daleks have so little mercy
that they have never showed anyone mercy and behaved just the way the
Doctor remembers them behaving.
"Davros only put a smidgen of mercy in the Daleks" ... I would think,
even if they only had a "smidgen of mercy" in themselves, it would be
enough to stop them going around yelling "EXTERMINATE!! EXTERMINATE!!"

Daniel
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The Witch's Familiar
New title sequence... still waiting for one.
Spoilers
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
In the end the Doctor goes back to boy Davros in order to save him
so that he does not remove concept mercy from the Dalek mutants
brains. But wait a moment isn't that the way he distinguished Clara
from a real Dalek? Well at least Davros understood it.
I'm assuming that Davros only put a smidgen of mercy in the Daleks,
so that the Dalek Clara was in would understand the concept and thus
be able to say the word. However, the Daleks have so little mercy
that they have never showed anyone mercy and behaved just the way the
Doctor remembers them behaving.
"Davros only put a smidgen of mercy in the Daleks" ... I would think,
even if they only had a "smidgen of mercy" in themselves, it would be
enough to stop them going around yelling "EXTERMINATE!! EXTERMINATE!!"
Daniel
Until threaten by River song.
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2017-02-21 08:38:51 UTC
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New title sequence... still waiting for one.
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In the end the Doctor goes back to boy Davros in order to save him
so that he does not remove concept mercy from the Dalek mutants
brains. But wait a moment isn't that the way he distinguished Clara
from a real Dalek? Well at least Davros understood it.
I'm assuming that Davros only put a smidgen of mercy in the Daleks,
so that the Dalek Clara was in would understand the concept and thus
be able to say the word. However, the Daleks have so little mercy
that they have never showed anyone mercy and behaved just the way the
Doctor remembers them behaving.
"Davros only put a smidgen of mercy in the Daleks" ... I would think,
even if they only had a "smidgen of mercy" in themselves, it would be
enough to stop them going around yelling "EXTERMINATE!! EXTERMINATE!!"
Until threaten by River song.
What?? Why??

Daniel
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2017-02-21 15:31:08 UTC
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The Witch's Familiar
New title sequence... still waiting for one.
Spoilers
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
In the end the Doctor goes back to boy Davros in order to save him
so that he does not remove concept mercy from the Dalek mutants
brains. But wait a moment isn't that the way he distinguished Clara
from a real Dalek? Well at least Davros understood it.
I'm assuming that Davros only put a smidgen of mercy in the Daleks,
so that the Dalek Clara was in would understand the concept and thus
be able to say the word. However, the Daleks have so little mercy
that they have never showed anyone mercy and behaved just the way the
Doctor remembers them behaving.
"Davros only put a smidgen of mercy in the Daleks" ... I would think,
even if they only had a "smidgen of mercy" in themselves, it would be
enough to stop them going around yelling "EXTERMINATE!! EXTERMINATE!!"
Until threaten by River song.
What?? Why??
Daniel
You do not recall The Big Bang?
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The Witch's Familiar
New title sequence... still waiting for one.
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In the end the Doctor goes back to boy Davros in order to save him
so that he does not remove concept mercy from the Dalek mutants
brains. But wait a moment isn't that the way he distinguished Clara
from a real Dalek? Well at least Davros understood it.
I'm assuming that Davros only put a smidgen of mercy in the Daleks,
so that the Dalek Clara was in would understand the concept and thus
be able to say the word. However, the Daleks have so little mercy
that they have never showed anyone mercy and behaved just the way the
Doctor remembers them behaving.
"Davros only put a smidgen of mercy in the Daleks" ... I would think,
even if they only had a "smidgen of mercy" in themselves, it would be
enough to stop them going around yelling "EXTERMINATE!! EXTERMINATE!!"
Until threaten by River song.
What?? Why??
You do not recall The Big Bang?
No, idiot, I was alive then!!

Daniel
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The Witch's Familiar
New title sequence... still waiting for one.
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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
In the end the Doctor goes back to boy Davros in order to save him
so that he does not remove concept mercy from the Dalek mutants
brains. But wait a moment isn't that the way he distinguished Clara
from a real Dalek? Well at least Davros understood it.
I'm assuming that Davros only put a smidgen of mercy in the Daleks,
so that the Dalek Clara was in would understand the concept and thus
be able to say the word. However, the Daleks have so little mercy
that they have never showed anyone mercy and behaved just the way the
Doctor remembers them behaving.
"Davros only put a smidgen of mercy in the Daleks" ... I would think,
even if they only had a "smidgen of mercy" in themselves, it would be
enough to stop them going around yelling "EXTERMINATE!! EXTERMINATE!!"
Until threaten by River song.
What?? Why??
You do not recall The Big Bang?
No, idiot, I was alive then!!
s/was/wasn't

Daniel
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2017-02-22 15:10:27 UTC
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The Witch's Familiar
New title sequence... still waiting for one.
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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
In the end the Doctor goes back to boy Davros in order to save him
so that he does not remove concept mercy from the Dalek mutants
brains. But wait a moment isn't that the way he distinguished Clara
from a real Dalek? Well at least Davros understood it.
I'm assuming that Davros only put a smidgen of mercy in the Daleks,
so that the Dalek Clara was in would understand the concept and thus
be able to say the word. However, the Daleks have so little mercy
that they have never showed anyone mercy and behaved just the way the
Doctor remembers them behaving.
"Davros only put a smidgen of mercy in the Daleks" ... I would think,
even if they only had a "smidgen of mercy" in themselves, it would be
enough to stop them going around yelling "EXTERMINATE!! EXTERMINATE!!"
Until threaten by River song.
What?? Why??
You do not recall The Big Bang?
No, idiot, I was alive then!!
The episode where time is imploding on itself.
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New title sequence... still waiting for one.
Spoilers
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
In the end the Doctor goes back to boy Davros in order to save him
so that he does not remove concept mercy from the Dalek mutants
brains. But wait a moment isn't that the way he distinguished Clara
from a real Dalek? Well at least Davros understood it.
I'm assuming that Davros only put a smidgen of mercy in the Daleks,
so that the Dalek Clara was in would understand the concept and thus
be able to say the word. However, the Daleks have so little mercy
that they have never showed anyone mercy and behaved just the way the
Doctor remembers them behaving.
"Davros only put a smidgen of mercy in the Daleks" ... I would think,
even if they only had a "smidgen of mercy" in themselves, it would be
enough to stop them going around yelling "EXTERMINATE!! EXTERMINATE!!"
Until threaten by River song.
What?? Why??
You do not recall The Big Bang?
No, idiot, I was alive then!!
You're older than I thought! Are you related to that very old alien on Babylon 5 who escorted the Shadows and Vorlons to a higher plane of existence?
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The Witch's Familiar
New title sequence... still waiting for one.
Spoilers
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
In the end the Doctor goes back to boy Davros in order to save him
so that he does not remove concept mercy from the Dalek mutants
brains. But wait a moment isn't that the way he distinguished Clara
from a real Dalek? Well at least Davros understood it.
I'm assuming that Davros only put a smidgen of mercy in the Daleks,
so that the Dalek Clara was in would understand the concept and thus
be able to say the word. However, the Daleks have so little mercy
that they have never showed anyone mercy and behaved just the way the
Doctor remembers them behaving.
"Davros only put a smidgen of mercy in the Daleks" ... I would think,
even if they only had a "smidgen of mercy" in themselves, it would be
enough to stop them going around yelling "EXTERMINATE!! EXTERMINATE!!"
Until threaten by River song.
What?? Why??
You do not recall The Big Bang?
No, idiot, I was alive then!!
You're older than I thought! Are you related to that very old alien on
Babylon 5 who escorted the Shadows and Vorlons to a higher plane of
existence?
Good one ;-)
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New title sequence... still waiting for one.
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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
In the end the Doctor goes back to boy Davros in order to save him
so that he does not remove concept mercy from the Dalek mutants
brains. But wait a moment isn't that the way he distinguished Clara
from a real Dalek? Well at least Davros understood it.
I'm assuming that Davros only put a smidgen of mercy in the Daleks,
so that the Dalek Clara was in would understand the concept and thus
be able to say the word. However, the Daleks have so little mercy
that they have never showed anyone mercy and behaved just the way the
Doctor remembers them behaving.
"Davros only put a smidgen of mercy in the Daleks" ... I would think,
even if they only had a "smidgen of mercy" in themselves, it would be
enough to stop them going around yelling "EXTERMINATE!! EXTERMINATE!!"
Until threaten by River song.
What?? Why??
You do not recall The Big Bang?
No, idiot, I was alive then!!
Are you a Weeping Angel, or a Rachnoss, or a Carrionite?
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The Witch's Familiar
New title sequence... still waiting for one.
Spoilers
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
In the end the Doctor goes back to boy Davros in order to save him
so that he does not remove concept mercy from the Dalek mutants
brains. But wait a moment isn't that the way he distinguished Clara
from a real Dalek? Well at least Davros understood it.
I'm assuming that Davros only put a smidgen of mercy in the Daleks,
so that the Dalek Clara was in would understand the concept and thus
be able to say the word. However, the Daleks have so little mercy
that they have never showed anyone mercy and behaved just the way the
Doctor remembers them behaving.
"Davros only put a smidgen of mercy in the Daleks" ... I would think,
even if they only had a "smidgen of mercy" in themselves, it would be
enough to stop them going around yelling "EXTERMINATE!! EXTERMINATE!!"
Until threaten by River song.
What?? Why??
You do not recall The Big Bang?
No, idiot, I was alive then!!
Are you a Weeping Angel, or a Rachnoss, or a Carrionite?
Weeping Angle sounds right.
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New title sequence... still waiting for one.
Spoilers
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
In the end the Doctor goes back to boy Davros in order to save him
so that he does not remove concept mercy from the Dalek mutants
brains. But wait a moment isn't that the way he distinguished Clara
from a real Dalek? Well at least Davros understood it.
I'm assuming that Davros only put a smidgen of mercy in the Daleks,
so that the Dalek Clara was in would understand the concept and thus
be able to say the word. However, the Daleks have so little mercy
that they have never showed anyone mercy and behaved just the way the
Doctor remembers them behaving.
"Davros only put a smidgen of mercy in the Daleks" ... I would think,
even if they only had a "smidgen of mercy" in themselves, it would be
enough to stop them going around yelling "EXTERMINATE!! EXTERMINATE!!"
Until threaten by River song.
What?? Why??
You do not recall The Big Bang?
No, idiot, I was alive then!!
Are you a Weeping Angel, or a Rachnoss, or a Carrionite?
Weeping Angle sounds right.
Crying vertexes?
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The Witch's Familiar
New title sequence... still waiting for one.
Spoilers
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
In the end the Doctor goes back to boy Davros in order to save him
so that he does not remove concept mercy from the Dalek mutants
brains. But wait a moment isn't that the way he distinguished Clara
from a real Dalek? Well at least Davros understood it.
I'm assuming that Davros only put a smidgen of mercy in the Daleks,
so that the Dalek Clara was in would understand the concept and thus
be able to say the word. However, the Daleks have so little mercy
that they have never showed anyone mercy and behaved just the way the
Doctor remembers them behaving.
"Davros only put a smidgen of mercy in the Daleks" ... I would think,
even if they only had a "smidgen of mercy" in themselves, it would be
enough to stop them going around yelling "EXTERMINATE!! EXTERMINATE!!"
Until threaten by River song.
What?? Why??
You do not recall The Big Bang?
No, idiot, I was alive then!!
Are you a Weeping Angel, or a Rachnoss, or a Carrionite?
Weeping Angle sounds right.
Crying vertexes?
Quit true coming from the cracks.
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New title sequence... still waiting for one.
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In the end the Doctor goes back to boy Davros in order to save him
so that he does not remove concept mercy from the Dalek mutants
brains. But wait a moment isn't that the way he distinguished Clara
from a real Dalek? Well at least Davros understood it.
I'm assuming that Davros only put a smidgen of mercy in the Daleks,
so that the Dalek Clara was in would understand the concept and thus
be able to say the word. However, the Daleks have so little mercy
that they have never showed anyone mercy and behaved just the way the
Doctor remembers them behaving.
"Davros only put a smidgen of mercy in the Daleks" ... I would think,
even if they only had a "smidgen of mercy" in themselves, it would be
enough to stop them going around yelling "EXTERMINATE!! EXTERMINATE!!"
Daniel
Until threaten by River song.
And then River Song killed that Dalek who begged for mercy!
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New title sequence... still waiting for one.
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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
In the end the Doctor goes back to boy Davros in order to save him
so that he does not remove concept mercy from the Dalek mutants
brains. But wait a moment isn't that the way he distinguished Clara
from a real Dalek? Well at least Davros understood it.
I'm assuming that Davros only put a smidgen of mercy in the Daleks,
so that the Dalek Clara was in would understand the concept and thus
be able to say the word. However, the Daleks have so little mercy
that they have never showed anyone mercy and behaved just the way the
Doctor remembers them behaving.
"Davros only put a smidgen of mercy in the Daleks" ... I would think,
even if they only had a "smidgen of mercy" in themselves, it would be
enough to stop them going around yelling "EXTERMINATE!! EXTERMINATE!!"
Daniel
Until threaten by River song.
And then River Song killed that Dalek who begged for mercy!
Exactly!!
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What is the witch familiar with?
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What is the witch familiar with?
spells.
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So another episode that was supposed to be telling the story of Davros
is given a title referring to Clara. What did Clara exactly do to
deserved this? Absolutely nothing, just like before.
Just as everyone predicted Missy and Clara did not die but were
teleported to a safe place outside of the city. How Clara ended up
hanging from a rock upside down I don't know.
I'm assuming that Missy hung up Clara!
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So another episode that was supposed to be telling the story of Davros
is given a title referring to Clara. What did Clara exactly do to
deserved this? Absolutely nothing, just like before.
Just as everyone predicted Missy and Clara did not die but were
teleported to a safe place outside of the city. How Clara ended up
hanging from a rock upside down I don't know.
I'm assuming that Missy hung up Clara!
10/10 .
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Near the end, Davros tricks the Doctor into offering him regeneration energy, and arranges to force the Doctor to provide regeneration energy to all the Daleks! Does this mean that the Doctor will un out of regenerations early?
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Near the end, Davros tricks the Doctor into offering him regeneration
energy, and arranges to force the Doctor to provide regeneration energy
to all the Daleks! Does this mean that the Doctor will un out of
regenerations early?
Do you reall Mawdryn Undead?
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Near the end, Davros tricks the Doctor into offering him regeneration
energy, and arranges to force the Doctor to provide regeneration energy
to all the Daleks! Does this mean that the Doctor will un out of
regenerations early?
Do you reall Mawdryn Undead?
Two Brigadiers in contact supplied the necessary energy on that occasion. Neither one was present during The Witch's Familiar, so couldn't help him out.
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Near the end, Davros tricks the Doctor into offering him regeneration
energy, and arranges to force the Doctor to provide regeneration energy
to all the Daleks! Does this mean that the Doctor will un out of
regenerations early?
Do you reall Mawdryn Undead?
Two Brigadiers in contact supplied the necessary energy on that
occasion. Neither one was present during The Witch's Familiar, so
couldn't help him out.
And the Doctor would have lost all his renegrations if he had to
kill Maydryn and crew.
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Near the end, Davros tricks the Doctor into offering him regeneration
energy, and arranges to force the Doctor to provide regeneration energy
to all the Daleks! Does this mean that the Doctor will un out of
regenerations early?
Do you reall Mawdryn Undead?
Two Brigadiers in contact supplied the necessary energy on that
occasion. Neither one was present during The Witch's Familiar, so
couldn't help him out.
And the Doctor would have lost all his renegrations if he had to
kill Maydryn and crew.
Which means that the Doctor should have lost his regenerations from regenerating the Dalek city?

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Near the end, Davros tricks the Doctor into offering him regeneration
energy, and arranges to force the Doctor to provide regeneration energy
to all the Daleks! Does this mean that the Doctor will un out of
regenerations early?
Do you reall Mawdryn Undead?
Two Brigadiers in contact supplied the necessary energy on that
occasion. Neither one was present during The Witch's Familiar, so
couldn't help him out.
And the Doctor would have lost all his renegrations if he had to
kill Maydryn and crew.
Which means that the Doctor should have lost his regenerations from
regenerating the Dalek city?
Could the energy drain the Doctor suffered when he was made to
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Exactly correct. Still There is LEt's Kill Hitler.
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Great moment: The Clara Dalek not only asking for mercy, but also SHOWING mercy, something unprecedented in the Doctor's experience!
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Great moment: The Clara Dalek not only asking for mercy, but also
SHOWING mercy, something unprecedented in the Doctor's experience!
Hence the boy Davros
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Great moment: The Clara Dalek not only asking for mercy, but also
SHOWING mercy, something unprecedented in the Doctor's experience!
Hence the boy Davros
??? How does the Clara Dalek showing compassion lead to "the bot
Davros", idiot??

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Great moment: The Clara Dalek not only asking for mercy, but also
SHOWING mercy, something unprecedented in the Doctor's experience!
Hence the boy Davros
??? How does the Clara Dalek showing compassion lead to "the bot
Davros", idiot??
s/"the bot Davros"/"the boy Davros"

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Great moment: The Clara Dalek not only asking for mercy, but also
SHOWING mercy, something unprecedented in the Doctor's experience!
Hence the boy Davros
??? How does the Clara Dalek showing compassion lead to "the bot
Davros", idiot??
s/"the bot Davros"/"the boy Davros"
The current Dalek crop got their understanding of mercy from Davros, who had donated his own cells to recreate the Daleks after their massive mishap at the end of the Time War. Thus, the Doctor had to save young Davros and teach him mercy.
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Great moment: The Clara Dalek not only asking for mercy, but also
SHOWING mercy, something unprecedented in the Doctor's experience!
Hence the boy Davros
??? How does the Clara Dalek showing compassion lead to "the bot
Davros", idiot??
s/"the bot Davros"/"the boy Davros"
The current Dalek crop got their understanding of mercy from Davros, who had donated his own cells to recreate the Daleks after their massive mishap at the end of the Time War. Thus, the Doctor had to save young Davros and teach him mercy.
Again, Tim, I ask "How does the Clara Dalek showing compassion lead to
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Davros??".

So how was Clara able to get into a Dalek before adult Davros ever existed??

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Great moment: The Clara Dalek not only asking for mercy, but also
SHOWING mercy, something unprecedented in the Doctor's experience!
Hence the boy Davros
??? How does the Clara Dalek showing compassion lead to "the bot
Davros", idiot??
s/"the bot Davros"/"the boy Davros"
The current Dalek crop got their understanding of mercy from Davros, who had donated his own cells to recreate the Daleks after their massive mishap at the end of the Time War. Thus, the Doctor had to save young Davros and teach him mercy.
Again, Tim, I ask "How does the Clara Dalek showing compassion lead to
"the boy
Davros??".
So how was Clara able to get into a Dalek before adult Davros ever existed??
Missy got Clara into a Dalek's casing after killing the creature inside. The Doctor realized that Clara was there because Clara was able to make the Dalek's computer express the concept of mercy. The Doctor then realized that he would have to rescue young Davros from the handmines so that Darvos could give the Daleks a small amount of mercy so that Clara could make the Dalek's computer say "Mercy".
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Great moment: The Clara Dalek not only asking for mercy, but also
SHOWING mercy, something unprecedented in the Doctor's experience!
Hence the boy Davros
??? How does the Clara Dalek showing compassion lead to "the bot
Davros", idiot??
s/"the bot Davros"/"the boy Davros"
The current Dalek crop got their understanding of mercy from Davros, who had donated his own cells to recreate the Daleks after their massive mishap at the end of the Time War. Thus, the Doctor had to save young Davros and teach him mercy.
Again, Tim, I ask "How does the Clara Dalek showing compassion lead to
"the boy Davros??".
So how was Clara able to get into a Dalek before adult Davros ever existed??
Missy got Clara into a Dalek's casing after killing the creature inside. The Doctor realized that Clara was there because Clara was able to make the Dalek's computer express the concept of mercy. The Doctor then realized that he would have to rescue young Davros from the handmines so that Darvos could give the Daleks a small amount of mercy so that Clara could make the Dalek's computer say "Mercy".
Sorry!! The Doctor realised he would have to save Child Davros *AFTER*
Clara had made the *Humanoid Dalek* say Mercy.

So that actual Dalek creature was dead/non-existent, so it wasn't a
Dalek-Dalek that said the word "Mercy", so why did Davros have to make a
change to the metal salt & pepper shaker??

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Great moment: The Clara Dalek not only asking for mercy, but also
SHOWING mercy, something unprecedented in the Doctor's experience!
Hence the boy Davros
??? How does the Clara Dalek showing compassion lead to "the bot
Davros", idiot??
s/"the bot Davros"/"the boy Davros"
The current Dalek crop got their understanding of mercy from Davros, who had donated his own cells to recreate the Daleks after their massive mishap at the end of the Time War. Thus, the Doctor had to save young Davros and teach him mercy.
Again, Tim, I ask "How does the Clara Dalek showing compassion lead to
"the boy Davros??".
So how was Clara able to get into a Dalek before adult Davros ever existed??
Missy got Clara into a Dalek's casing after killing the creature inside. The Doctor realized that Clara was there because Clara was able to make the Dalek's computer express the concept of mercy. The Doctor then realized that he would have to rescue young Davros from the handmines so that Darvos could give the Daleks a small amount of mercy so that Clara could make the Dalek's computer say "Mercy".
Sorry!! The Doctor realised he would have to save Child Davros *AFTER*
Clara had made the *Humanoid Dalek* say Mercy.
So that actual Dalek creature was dead/non-existent, so it wasn't a
Dalek-Dalek that said the word "Mercy", so why did Davros have to make a
change to the metal salt & pepper shaker??
The Dalek computer had been translating "I am Clara" to "I am a Dalek", and "I am a friend" to "I am an enemy". It didn't understand the concepts of "I am (human name)" and "I am a friend".
But it could translate "Please don't kill me" into "Mercy" and "I won't kill you" into "I show mercy", indicating that the Dalek computer, and there the Daleks, understood the concept of mercy. The Doctor deduced that the Daleks had gotten the concept of mercy from Davros, so he had to save Davros!
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Great moment: The Clara Dalek not only asking for mercy, but also
SHOWING mercy, something unprecedented in the Doctor's experience!
Hence the boy Davros
??? How does the Clara Dalek showing compassion lead to "the bot
Davros", idiot??
s/"the bot Davros"/"the boy Davros"
The current Dalek crop got their understanding of mercy from
Davros, who had donated his own cells to recreate the Daleks after their
massive mishap at the end of the Time War. Thus, the Doctor had to save
young Davros and teach him mercy.
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Again, Tim, I ask "How does the Clara Dalek showing compassion lead to
"the boy Davros??".
So how was Clara able to get into a Dalek before adult Davros ever
existed??
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Missy got Clara into a Dalek's casing after killing the creature
inside. The Doctor realized that Clara was there because Clara was able
to make the Dalek's computer express the concept of mercy. The Doctor
then realized that he would have to rescue young Davros from the
handmines so that Darvos could give the Daleks a small amount of mercy
so that Clara could make the Dalek's computer say "Mercy".
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Sorry!! The Doctor realised he would have to save Child Davros *AFTER*
Clara had made the *Humanoid Dalek* say Mercy.
So that actual Dalek creature was dead/non-existent, so it wasn't a
Dalek-Dalek that said the word "Mercy", so why did Davros have to make a
change to the metal salt & pepper shaker??
The Dalek computer had been translating "I am Clara" to "I am a Dalek",
and "I am a friend" to "I am an enemy". It didn't understand the
concepts of "I am (human name)" and "I am a friend".
But it could translate "Please don't kill me" into "Mercy" and "I won't
kill you" into "I show mercy", indicating that the Dalek computer, and
there the Daleks, understood the concept of mercy. The Doctor deduced
that the Daleks had gotten the concept of mercy from Davros, so he had
to save Davros!
Until Mercy came up.
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Great moment: The Clara Dalek not only asking for mercy, but also
SHOWING mercy, something unprecedented in the Doctor's experience!
Hence the boy Davros
??? How does the Clara Dalek showing compassion lead to "the bot
Davros", idiot??
s/"the bot Davros"/"the boy Davros"
The current Dalek crop got their understanding of mercy from Davros, who had donated his own cells to recreate the Daleks after their massive mishap at the end of the Time War. Thus, the Doctor had to save young Davros and teach him mercy.
Again, Tim, I ask "How does the Clara Dalek showing compassion lead to
"the boy Davros??".
So how was Clara able to get into a Dalek before adult Davros ever existed??
Missy got Clara into a Dalek's casing after killing the creature inside. The Doctor realized that Clara was there because Clara was able to make the Dalek's computer express the concept of mercy. The Doctor then realized that he would have to rescue young Davros from the handmines so that Darvos could give the Daleks a small amount of mercy so that Clara could make the Dalek's computer say "Mercy".
Sorry!! The Doctor realised he would have to save Child Davros *AFTER*
Clara had made the *Humanoid Dalek* say Mercy.
So that actual Dalek creature was dead/non-existent, so it wasn't a
Dalek-Dalek that said the word "Mercy", so why did Davros have to make a
change to the metal salt & pepper shaker??
The Dalek computer had been translating "I am Clara" to "I am a Dalek", and "I am a friend" to "I am an enemy". It didn't understand the concepts of "I am (human name)" and "I am a friend".
But it could translate "Please don't kill me" into "Mercy" and "I won't kill you" into "I show mercy", indicating that the Dalek computer, and there the Daleks, understood the concept of mercy. The Doctor deduced that the Daleks had gotten the concept of mercy from Davros, so he had to save Davros!
Sorry!! This was the Clara-Dalek that was saying "Mercy" and "I show
mercy", not a Dalek-Dalek. This is the only time I can recall a Dalek
using those terms, so wouldn't it be reasonable for The Doctor to reason
that something else had changed??

Please refresh my memory ... Did The Doctor know, at this time, that
Clara was inside the Tin Can??

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Great moment: The Clara Dalek not only asking for mercy, but also
SHOWING mercy, something unprecedented in the Doctor's experience!
Hence the boy Davros
??? How does the Clara Dalek showing compassion lead to "the bot
Davros", idiot??
s/"the bot Davros"/"the boy Davros"
The current Dalek crop got their understanding of mercy from Davros, who had donated his own cells to recreate the Daleks after their massive mishap at the end of the Time War. Thus, the Doctor had to save young Davros and teach him mercy.
Again, Tim, I ask "How does the Clara Dalek showing compassion lead to
"the boy Davros??".
So how was Clara able to get into a Dalek before adult Davros ever existed??
Missy got Clara into a Dalek's casing after killing the creature inside. The Doctor realized that Clara was there because Clara was able to make the Dalek's computer express the concept of mercy. The Doctor then realized that he would have to rescue young Davros from the handmines so that Darvos could give the Daleks a small amount of mercy so that Clara could make the Dalek's computer say "Mercy".
Sorry!! The Doctor realised he would have to save Child Davros *AFTER*
Clara had made the *Humanoid Dalek* say Mercy.
So that actual Dalek creature was dead/non-existent, so it wasn't a
Dalek-Dalek that said the word "Mercy", so why did Davros have to make a
change to the metal salt & pepper shaker??
The Dalek computer had been translating "I am Clara" to "I am a Dalek", and "I am a friend" to "I am an enemy". It didn't understand the concepts of "I am (human name)" and "I am a friend".
But it could translate "Please don't kill me" into "Mercy" and "I won't kill you" into "I show mercy", indicating that the Dalek computer, and there the Daleks, understood the concept of mercy. The Doctor deduced that the Daleks had gotten the concept of mercy from Davros, so he had to save Davros!
Sorry!! This was the Clara-Dalek that was saying "Mercy" and "I show
mercy", not a Dalek-Dalek. This is the only time I can recall a Dalek
using those terms, so wouldn't it be reasonable for The Doctor to reason
that something else had changed??
Please refresh my memory ... Did The Doctor know, at this time, that
Clara was inside the Tin Can??
No. The Clara-Dalek saying "Mercy" is how the Doctor discovered hat Clara was in there! The Doctor then realized that he had to save young Davros so that adult Davros could load a smidgen of mercy into the Daleks, so that Clara could make her Dalek casing say "Mercy" so that the Doctor could realize that she was in there!
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Great moment: The Clara Dalek not only asking for mercy, but also
SHOWING mercy, something unprecedented in the Doctor's experience!
Hence the boy Davros
??? How does the Clara Dalek showing compassion lead to "the bot
Davros", idiot??
s/"the bot Davros"/"the boy Davros"
The current Dalek crop got their understanding of mercy from Davros, who had donated his own cells to recreate the Daleks after their massive mishap at the end of the Time War. Thus, the Doctor had to save young Davros and teach him mercy.
Again, Tim, I ask "How does the Clara Dalek showing compassion lead to
"the boy Davros??".
So how was Clara able to get into a Dalek before adult Davros ever existed??
Missy got Clara into a Dalek's casing after killing the creature inside. The Doctor realized that Clara was there because Clara was able to make the Dalek's computer express the concept of mercy. The Doctor then realized that he would have to rescue young Davros from the handmines so that Darvos could give the Daleks a small amount of mercy so that Clara could make the Dalek's computer say "Mercy".
Sorry!! The Doctor realised he would have to save Child Davros *AFTER*
Clara had made the *Humanoid Dalek* say Mercy.
So that actual Dalek creature was dead/non-existent, so it wasn't a
Dalek-Dalek that said the word "Mercy", so why did Davros have to make a
change to the metal salt & pepper shaker??
The Dalek computer had been translating "I am Clara" to "I am a Dalek", and "I am a friend" to "I am an enemy". It didn't understand the concepts of "I am (human name)" and "I am a friend".
But it could translate "Please don't kill me" into "Mercy" and "I won't kill you" into "I show mercy", indicating that the Dalek computer, and there the Daleks, understood the concept of mercy. The Doctor deduced that the Daleks had gotten the concept of mercy from Davros, so he had to save Davros!
Sorry!! This was the Clara-Dalek that was saying "Mercy" and "I show
mercy", not a Dalek-Dalek. This is the only time I can recall a Dalek
using those terms, so wouldn't it be reasonable for The Doctor to reason
that something else had changed??
Please refresh my memory ... Did The Doctor know, at this time, that
Clara was inside the Tin Can??
No. The Clara-Dalek saying "Mercy" is how the Doctor discovered hat Clara was in there! The Doctor then realized that he had to save young Davros so that adult Davros could load a smidgen of mercy into the Daleks, so that Clara could make her Dalek casing say "Mercy" so that the Doctor could realize that she was in there!
So The Doctor needs the Clara Dalek to say "Mercy" so that The Doctor
would know he has to go back and save Davros so Davros would alter the
Daleks so they could say "Mercy"!!

Isn't that a bit like a Dog chasing its own tail?? Something's got to
happen so something can happen!!

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Great moment: The Clara Dalek not only asking for mercy, but also
SHOWING mercy, something unprecedented in the Doctor's experience!
Hence the boy Davros
??? How does the Clara Dalek showing compassion lead to "the bot
Davros", idiot??
s/"the bot Davros"/"the boy Davros"
The current Dalek crop got their understanding of mercy from Davros, who had donated his own cells to recreate the Daleks after their massive mishap at the end of the Time War. Thus, the Doctor had to save young Davros and teach him mercy.
Again, Tim, I ask "How does the Clara Dalek showing compassion lead to
"the boy Davros??".
So how was Clara able to get into a Dalek before adult Davros ever existed??
Missy got Clara into a Dalek's casing after killing the creature inside. The Doctor realized that Clara was there because Clara was able to make the Dalek's computer express the concept of mercy. The Doctor then realized that he would have to rescue young Davros from the handmines so that Darvos could give the Daleks a small amount of mercy so that Clara could make the Dalek's computer say "Mercy".
Sorry!! The Doctor realised he would have to save Child Davros *AFTER*
Clara had made the *Humanoid Dalek* say Mercy.
So that actual Dalek creature was dead/non-existent, so it wasn't a
Dalek-Dalek that said the word "Mercy", so why did Davros have to make a
change to the metal salt & pepper shaker??
The Dalek computer had been translating "I am Clara" to "I am a Dalek", and "I am a friend" to "I am an enemy". It didn't understand the concepts of "I am (human name)" and "I am a friend".
But it could translate "Please don't kill me" into "Mercy" and "I won't kill you" into "I show mercy", indicating that the Dalek computer, and there the Daleks, understood the concept of mercy. The Doctor deduced that the Daleks had gotten the concept of mercy from Davros, so he had to save Davros!
Sorry!! This was the Clara-Dalek that was saying "Mercy" and "I show
mercy", not a Dalek-Dalek. This is the only time I can recall a Dalek
using those terms, so wouldn't it be reasonable for The Doctor to reason
that something else had changed??
Please refresh my memory ... Did The Doctor know, at this time, that
Clara was inside the Tin Can??
No. The Clara-Dalek saying "Mercy" is how the Doctor discovered hat Clara was in there! The Doctor then realized that he had to save young Davros so that adult Davros could load a smidgen of mercy into the Daleks, so that Clara could make her Dalek casing say "Mercy" so that the Doctor could realize that she was in there!
So The Doctor needs the Clara Dalek to say "Mercy" so that The Doctor
would know he has to go back and save Davros so Davros would alter the
Daleks so they could say "Mercy"!!
Isn't that a bit like a Dog chasing its own tail?? Something's got to
happen so something can happen!!
A bootstrap paradox for you. The Doctor was talking about such a paradox at the start of the episode! RrR
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Great moment: The Clara Dalek not only asking for mercy, but also
SHOWING mercy, something unprecedented in the Doctor's experience!
Hence the boy Davros
??? How does the Clara Dalek showing compassion lead to "the bot
Davros", idiot??
s/"the bot Davros"/"the boy Davros"
The current Dalek crop got their understanding of mercy from
Davros, who had donated his own cells to recreate the Daleks after their
massive mishap at the end of the Time War. Thus, the Doctor had to save
young Davros and teach him mercy.
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Again, Tim, I ask "How does the Clara Dalek showing compassion lead to
"the boy Davros??".
So how was Clara able to get into a Dalek before adult Davros
ever existed??
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Missy got Clara into a Dalek's casing after killing the creature
inside. The Doctor realized that Clara was there because Clara was able
to make the Dalek's computer express the concept of mercy. The Doctor
then realized that he would have to rescue young Davros from the
handmines so that Darvos could give the Daleks a small amount of mercy
so that Clara could make the Dalek's computer say "Mercy".
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Sorry!! The Doctor realised he would have to save Child Davros *AFTER*
Clara had made the *Humanoid Dalek* say Mercy.
So that actual Dalek creature was dead/non-existent, so it wasn't a
Dalek-Dalek that said the word "Mercy", so why did Davros have to make a
change to the metal salt & pepper shaker??
The Dalek computer had been translating "I am Clara" to "I am a
Dalek", and "I am a friend" to "I am an enemy". It didn't understand
the concepts of "I am (human name)" and "I am a friend".
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But it could translate "Please don't kill me" into "Mercy" and "I
won't kill you" into "I show mercy", indicating that the Dalek computer,
and there the Daleks, understood the concept of mercy. The Doctor
deduced that the Daleks had gotten the concept of mercy from Davros, so
he had to save Davros!
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Sorry!! This was the Clara-Dalek that was saying "Mercy" and "I show
mercy", not a Dalek-Dalek. This is the only time I can recall a Dalek
using those terms, so wouldn't it be reasonable for The Doctor to reason
that something else had changed??
Please refresh my memory ... Did The Doctor know, at this time, that
Clara was inside the Tin Can??
No. The Clara-Dalek saying "Mercy" is how the Doctor discovered hat
Clara was in there! The Doctor then realized that he had to save young
Davros so that adult Davros could load a smidgen of mercy into the
Daleks, so that Clara could make her Dalek casing say "Mercy" so that
the Doctor could realize that she was in there!
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So The Doctor needs the Clara Dalek to say "Mercy" so that The Doctor
would know he has to go back and save Davros so Davros would alter the
Daleks so they could say "Mercy"!!
Isn't that a bit like a Dog chasing its own tail?? Something's got to
happen so something can happen!!
A bootstrap paradox for you. The Doctor was talking about such a
paradox at the start of the episode! RrR
Got you.
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2017-11-03 14:43:29 UTC
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Great moment: The Clara Dalek not only asking for mercy, but also
SHOWING mercy, something unprecedented in the Doctor's experience!
Hence the boy Davros
??? How does the Clara Dalek showing compassion lead to "the bot
Davros", idiot??
s/"the bot Davros"/"the boy Davros"
The current Dalek crop got their understanding of mercy from
Davros, who had donated his own cells to recreate the Daleks after their
massive mishap at the end of the Time War. Thus, the Doctor had to save
young Davros and teach him mercy.
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Again, Tim, I ask "How does the Clara Dalek showing compassion lead to
"the boy Davros??".
So how was Clara able to get into a Dalek before adult Davros
ever existed??
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Missy got Clara into a Dalek's casing after killing the creature
inside. The Doctor realized that Clara was there because Clara was able
to make the Dalek's computer express the concept of mercy. The Doctor
then realized that he would have to rescue young Davros from the
handmines so that Darvos could give the Daleks a small amount of mercy
so that Clara could make the Dalek's computer say "Mercy".
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Sorry!! The Doctor realised he would have to save Child Davros *AFTER*
Clara had made the *Humanoid Dalek* say Mercy.
So that actual Dalek creature was dead/non-existent, so it wasn't a
Dalek-Dalek that said the word "Mercy", so why did Davros have to make a
change to the metal salt & pepper shaker??
The Dalek computer had been translating "I am Clara" to "I am a
Dalek", and "I am a friend" to "I am an enemy". It didn't understand
the concepts of "I am (human name)" and "I am a friend".
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But it could translate "Please don't kill me" into "Mercy" and "I
won't kill you" into "I show mercy", indicating that the Dalek computer,
and there the Daleks, understood the concept of mercy. The Doctor
deduced that the Daleks had gotten the concept of mercy from Davros, so
he had to save Davros!
Post by Daniel60
Sorry!! This was the Clara-Dalek that was saying "Mercy" and "I show
mercy", not a Dalek-Dalek. This is the only time I can recall a Dalek
using those terms, so wouldn't it be reasonable for The Doctor to reason
that something else had changed??
Please refresh my memory ... Did The Doctor know, at this time, that
Clara was inside the Tin Can??
No. The Clara-Dalek saying "Mercy" is how the Doctor discovered hat
Clara was in there! The Doctor then realized that he had to save young
Davros so that adult Davros could load a smidgen of mercy into the
Daleks, so that Clara could make her Dalek casing say "Mercy" so that
the Doctor could realize that she was in there!
After the Dalek translator was breaking things.
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2017-11-03 14:30:19 UTC
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Great moment: The Clara Dalek not only asking for mercy, but also
SHOWING mercy, something unprecedented in the Doctor's experience!
Hence the boy Davros
??? How does the Clara Dalek showing compassion lead to "the bot
Davros", idiot??
s/"the bot Davros"/"the boy Davros"
The current Dalek crop got their understanding of mercy from
Davros, who had donated his own cells to recreate the Daleks after their
massive mishap at the end of the Time War. Thus, the Doctor had to save
young Davros and teach him mercy.
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Again, Tim, I ask "How does the Clara Dalek showing compassion lead to
"the boy Davros??".
So how was Clara able to get into a Dalek before adult Davros ever
existed??
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Missy got Clara into a Dalek's casing after killing the creature
inside. The Doctor realized that Clara was there because Clara was able
to make the Dalek's computer express the concept of mercy. The Doctor
then realized that he would have to rescue young Davros from the
handmines so that Darvos could give the Daleks a small amount of mercy
so that Clara could make the Dalek's computer say "Mercy".
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Sorry!! The Doctor realised he would have to save Child Davros *AFTER*
Clara had made the *Humanoid Dalek* say Mercy.
So that actual Dalek creature was dead/non-existent, so it wasn't a
Dalek-Dalek that said the word "Mercy", so why did Davros have to make a
change to the metal salt & pepper shaker??
The Dalek computer had been translating "I am Clara" to "I am a
Dalek", and "I am a friend" to "I am an enemy". It didn't understand
the concepts of "I am (human name)" and "I am a friend".
Post by Tim Bruening
But it could translate "Please don't kill me" into "Mercy" and "I
won't kill you" into "I show mercy", indicating that the Dalek computer,
and there the Daleks, understood the concept of mercy. The Doctor
deduced that the Daleks had gotten the concept of mercy from Davros, so
he had to save Davros!
Sorry!! This was the Clara-Dalek that was saying "Mercy" and "I show
mercy", not a Dalek-Dalek. This is the only time I can recall a Dalek
using those terms, so wouldn't it be reasonable for The Doctor to reason
that something else had changed??
Please refresh my memory ... Did The Doctor know, at this time, that
Clara was inside the Tin Can??
Daniel
No.
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So that actual Dalek creature was dead/non-existent, so it wasn't a
Dalek-Dalek that said the word "Mercy", so why did Davros have to make a
change to the metal salt & pepper shaker??
The Dalek computer had been translating "I am Clara" to "I am a
Dalek", and "I am a friend" to "I am an enemy". It didn't understand
the concepts of "I am (human name)" and "I am a friend".
Post by Tim Bruening
But it could translate "Please don't kill me" into "Mercy" and "I
won't kill you" into "I show mercy", indicating that the Dalek computer,
and there the Daleks, understood the concept of mercy. The Doctor
deduced that the Daleks had gotten the concept of mercy from Davros, so
he had to save Davros!
Sorry!! This was the Clara-Dalek that was saying "Mercy" and "I show
mercy", not a Dalek-Dalek. This is the only time I can recall a Dalek
using those terms, so wouldn't it be reasonable for The Doctor to reason
that something else had changed??
Please refresh my memory ... Did The Doctor know, at this time, that
Clara was inside the Tin Can??
No.
O.K., Tim, so why did The Doctor *KNOW* that he had to go back and safe
Davros??

Daniel
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So that actual Dalek creature was dead/non-existent, so it wasn't a
Dalek-Dalek that said the word "Mercy", so why did Davros have to make a
change to the metal salt & pepper shaker??
The Dalek computer had been translating "I am Clara" to "I am a
Dalek", and "I am a friend" to "I am an enemy". It didn't understand
the concepts of "I am (human name)" and "I am a friend".
Post by Tim Bruening
But it could translate "Please don't kill me" into "Mercy" and "I
won't kill you" into "I show mercy", indicating that the Dalek computer,
and there the Daleks, understood the concept of mercy. The Doctor
deduced that the Daleks had gotten the concept of mercy from Davros, so
he had to save Davros!
Sorry!! This was the Clara-Dalek that was saying "Mercy" and "I show
mercy", not a Dalek-Dalek. This is the only time I can recall a Dalek
using those terms, so wouldn't it be reasonable for The Doctor to reason
that something else had changed??
Please refresh my memory ... Did The Doctor know, at this time, that
Clara was inside the Tin Can??
No.
O.K., Tim, so why did The Doctor *KNOW* that he had to go back and safe
Davros??
Because he realized that Davros was the one who programmed in the smidgen of understanding of mercy needed to enable Clara's desperate cries to be translated by the Dalek casing's computer as "Mercy"! The Doctor therefore had to show young Davros mercy so that Davros would give his Daleks an understanding of mercy!
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So that actual Dalek creature was dead/non-existent, so it wasn't a
Dalek-Dalek that said the word "Mercy", so why did Davros have to make a
change to the metal salt & pepper shaker??
The Dalek computer had been translating "I am Clara" to "I am a
Dalek", and "I am a friend" to "I am an enemy". It didn't understand
the concepts of "I am (human name)" and "I am a friend".
Post by Tim Bruening
But it could translate "Please don't kill me" into "Mercy" and "I
won't kill you" into "I show mercy", indicating that the Dalek computer,
and there the Daleks, understood the concept of mercy. The Doctor
deduced that the Daleks had gotten the concept of mercy from Davros, so
he had to save Davros!
Sorry!! This was the Clara-Dalek that was saying "Mercy" and "I show
mercy", not a Dalek-Dalek. This is the only time I can recall a Dalek
using those terms, so wouldn't it be reasonable for The Doctor to reason
that something else had changed??
Please refresh my memory ... Did The Doctor know, at this time, that
Clara was inside the Tin Can??
No.
O.K., Tim, so why did The Doctor *KNOW* that he had to go back and safe
Davros??
Because he realized that Davros was the one who programmed in the smidgen of understanding of mercy needed to enable Clara's desperate cries to be translated by the Dalek casing's computer as "Mercy"! The Doctor therefore had to show young Davros mercy so that Davros would give his Daleks an understanding of mercy!
Well, that has failed miserably .... or are we yet to see that
generation of Daleks??

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So that actual Dalek creature was dead/non-existent, so it wasn't a
Dalek-Dalek that said the word "Mercy", so why did Davros have to make a
change to the metal salt & pepper shaker??
The Dalek computer had been translating "I am Clara" to "I am a
Dalek", and "I am a friend" to "I am an enemy". It didn't understand
the concepts of "I am (human name)" and "I am a friend".
Post by Tim Bruening
But it could translate "Please don't kill me" into "Mercy" and "I
won't kill you" into "I show mercy", indicating that the Dalek computer,
and there the Daleks, understood the concept of mercy. The Doctor
deduced that the Daleks had gotten the concept of mercy from Davros, so
he had to save Davros!
Sorry!! This was the Clara-Dalek that was saying "Mercy" and "I show
mercy", not a Dalek-Dalek. This is the only time I can recall a Dalek
using those terms, so wouldn't it be reasonable for The Doctor to reason
that something else had changed??
Please refresh my memory ... Did The Doctor know, at this time, that
Clara was inside the Tin Can??
No.
O.K., Tim, so why did The Doctor *KNOW* that he had to go back and safe
Davros??
Because he realized that Davros was the one who programmed in the
smidgen of understanding of mercy needed to enable Clara's desperate
cries to be translated by the Dalek casing's computer as "Mercy"! The
Doctor therefore had to show young Davros mercy so that Davros would
give his Daleks an understanding of mercy!
Great explanation.

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So that actual Dalek creature was dead/non-existent, so it wasn't a
Dalek-Dalek that said the word "Mercy", so why did Davros have to make a
change to the metal salt & pepper shaker??
The Dalek computer had been translating "I am Clara" to "I am a
Dalek", and "I am a friend" to "I am an enemy". It didn't understand
the concepts of "I am (human name)" and "I am a friend".
Post by Tim Bruening
But it could translate "Please don't kill me" into "Mercy" and "I
won't kill you" into "I show mercy", indicating that the Dalek computer,
and there the Daleks, understood the concept of mercy. The Doctor
deduced that the Daleks had gotten the concept of mercy from Davros, so
he had to save Davros!
Sorry!! This was the Clara-Dalek that was saying "Mercy" and "I show
mercy", not a Dalek-Dalek. This is the only time I can recall a Dalek
using those terms, so wouldn't it be reasonable for The Doctor to reason
that something else had changed??
Please refresh my memory ... Did The Doctor know, at this time, that
Clara was inside the Tin Can??
No.
O.K., Tim, so why did The Doctor *KNOW* that he had to go back and safe
Davros??
Daniel
Tim gavbe you the answer earlier.
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So that actual Dalek creature was dead/non-existent, so it wasn't a
Dalek-Dalek that said the word "Mercy", so why did Davros have to make a
change to the metal salt & pepper shaker??
The Dalek computer had been translating "I am Clara" to "I am a
Dalek", and "I am a friend" to "I am an enemy". It didn't understand
the concepts of "I am (human name)" and "I am a friend".
Post by Tim Bruening
But it could translate "Please don't kill me" into "Mercy" and "I
won't kill you" into "I show mercy", indicating that the Dalek computer,
and there the Daleks, understood the concept of mercy. The Doctor
deduced that the Daleks had gotten the concept of mercy from Davros, so
he had to save Davros!
Sorry!! This was the Clara-Dalek that was saying "Mercy" and "I show
mercy", not a Dalek-Dalek. This is the only time I can recall a Dalek
using those terms, so wouldn't it be reasonable for The Doctor to reason
that something else had changed??
Please refresh my memory ... Did The Doctor know, at this time, that
Clara was inside the Tin Can??
No.
O.K., Tim, so why did The Doctor *KNOW* that he had to go back and safe
Davros??
Tim gavbe you the answer earlier.
I don't believe Tim "gavbe" the answer earlier .... or, at least, it
didn't seem such to me!! Tim may have stated that The Doctor *knew* that
he had to go back and save Davros to set things right ... but there was
no explanation of how The Doctor *knew* he had to do that!!

Daniel
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So that actual Dalek creature was dead/non-existent, so it wasn't a
Dalek-Dalek that said the word "Mercy", so why did Davros have to make a
change to the metal salt & pepper shaker??
The Dalek computer had been translating "I am Clara" to "I am a
Dalek", and "I am a friend" to "I am an enemy". It didn't understand
the concepts of "I am (human name)" and "I am a friend".
Post by Tim Bruening
But it could translate "Please don't kill me" into "Mercy" and "I
won't kill you" into "I show mercy", indicating that the Dalek computer,
and there the Daleks, understood the concept of mercy. The Doctor
deduced that the Daleks had gotten the concept of mercy from Davros, so
he had to save Davros!
Sorry!! This was the Clara-Dalek that was saying "Mercy" and "I show
mercy", not a Dalek-Dalek. This is the only time I can recall a Dalek
using those terms, so wouldn't it be reasonable for The Doctor to reason
that something else had changed??
Please refresh my memory ... Did The Doctor know, at this time, that
Clara was inside the Tin Can??
No.
O.K., Tim, so why did The Doctor *KNOW* that he had to go back and safe
Davros??
Tim gavbe you the answer earlier.
I don't believe Tim "gavbe" the answer earlier .... or, at least, it
didn't seem such to me!! Tim may have stated that The Doctor *knew* that
he had to go back and save Davros to set things right ... but there was
no explanation of how The Doctor *knew* he had to do that!!
Clara's stunning ability to evoke the concept of "Mercy" out of a Dalek casing's computer is what told the Doctor that he had to save young Davros, (and thus be in a position to teach him about mercy) since Davros is the only person with enough access to Daleks to give them the concept of mercy!
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to make a
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change to the metal salt & pepper shaker??
The Dalek computer had been translating "I am Clara" to "I am a
Dalek", and "I am a friend" to "I am an enemy". It didn't understand
the concepts of "I am (human name)" and "I am a friend".
Post by Tim Bruening
But it could translate "Please don't kill me" into "Mercy" and "I
won't kill you" into "I show mercy", indicating that the Dalek computer,
and there the Daleks, understood the concept of mercy. The Doctor
deduced that the Daleks had gotten the concept of mercy from Davros, so
he had to save Davros!
Sorry!! This was the Clara-Dalek that was saying "Mercy" and "I show
mercy", not a Dalek-Dalek. This is the only time I can recall a Dalek
using those terms, so wouldn't it be reasonable for The Doctor to reason
that something else had changed??
Please refresh my memory ... Did The Doctor know, at this time, that
Clara was inside the Tin Can??
No.
O.K., Tim, so why did The Doctor *KNOW* that he had to go back and safe
Davros??
Tim gavbe you the answer earlier.
I don't believe Tim "gavbe" the answer earlier .... or, at least, it
didn't seem such to me!! Tim may have stated that The Doctor *knew* that
he had to go back and save Davros to set things right ... but there was
no explanation of how The Doctor *knew* he had to do that!!
Clara's stunning ability to evoke the concept of "Mercy" out of a Dalek
casing's computer is what told the Doctor that he had to save young
Davros, (and thus be in a position to teach him about mercy) since
Davros is the only person with enough access to Daleks to give them the
concept of mercy!
Exactly.

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The Dalek computer had been translating "I am Clara" to "I am a
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the concepts of "I am (human name)" and "I am a friend".
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But it could translate "Please don't kill me" into "Mercy" and "I
won't kill you" into "I show mercy", indicating that the Dalek computer,
and there the Daleks, understood the concept of mercy. The Doctor
deduced that the Daleks had gotten the concept of mercy from Davros, so
he had to save Davros!
Sorry!! This was the Clara-Dalek that was saying "Mercy" and "I show
mercy", not a Dalek-Dalek. This is the only time I can recall a Dalek
using those terms, so wouldn't it be reasonable for The Doctor to reason
that something else had changed??
Please refresh my memory ... Did The Doctor know, at this time, that
Clara was inside the Tin Can??
No.
O.K., Tim, so why did The Doctor *KNOW* that he had to go back and safe
Davros??
Tim gavbe you the answer earlier.
I don't believe Tim "gavbe" the answer earlier .... or, at least, it
didn't seem such to me!! Tim may have stated that The Doctor *knew* that
he had to go back and save Davros to set things right ... but there was
no explanation of how The Doctor *knew* he had to do that!!
Clara's stunning ability to evoke the concept of "Mercy" out of a Dalek
casing's computer is what told the Doctor that he had to save young
Davros, (and thus be in a position to teach him about mercy) since
Davros is the only person with enough access to Daleks to give them the
concept of mercy!
Exactly.
Nice library detour.
I did not remember a library.
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2017-11-07 00:38:10 UTC
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So that actual Dalek creature was dead/non-existent, so it wasn't a
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to make a
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change to the metal salt & pepper shaker??
The Dalek computer had been translating "I am Clara" to "I am a
Dalek", and "I am a friend" to "I am an enemy". It didn't understand
the concepts of "I am (human name)" and "I am a friend".
Post by Tim Bruening
But it could translate "Please don't kill me" into "Mercy" and "I
won't kill you" into "I show mercy", indicating that the Dalek
computer,
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and there the Daleks, understood the concept of mercy. The Doctor
deduced that the Daleks had gotten the concept of mercy from
Davros, so
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he had to save Davros!
Sorry!! This was the Clara-Dalek that was saying "Mercy" and "I show
mercy", not a Dalek-Dalek. This is the only time I can recall a Dalek
using those terms, so wouldn't it be reasonable for The Doctor
to reason
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that something else had changed??
Please refresh my memory ... Did The Doctor know, at this time, that
Clara was inside the Tin Can??
No.
O.K., Tim, so why did The Doctor *KNOW* that he had to go back and safe
Davros??
Tim gavbe you the answer earlier.
I don't believe Tim "gavbe" the answer earlier .... or, at least, it
didn't seem such to me!! Tim may have stated that The Doctor *knew* that
he had to go back and save Davros to set things right ... but there was
no explanation of how The Doctor *knew* he had to do that!!
Clara's stunning ability to evoke the concept of "Mercy" out of a Dalek
casing's computer is what told the Doctor that he had to save young
Davros, (and thus be in a position to teach him about mercy) since
Davros is the only person with enough access to Daleks to give them the
concept of mercy!
Exactly.
Nice library detour.
I did not remember a library.
He mentions that in te Witches familiar.
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So that actual Dalek creature was dead/non-existent, so it wasn't a
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to make a
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change to the metal salt & pepper shaker??
The Dalek computer had been translating "I am Clara" to "I am a
Dalek", and "I am a friend" to "I am an enemy". It didn't understand
the concepts of "I am (human name)" and "I am a friend".
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But it could translate "Please don't kill me" into "Mercy" and "I
won't kill you" into "I show mercy", indicating that the Dalek
computer,
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and there the Daleks, understood the concept of mercy. The Doctor
deduced that the Daleks had gotten the concept of mercy from
Davros, so
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he had to save Davros!
Sorry!! This was the Clara-Dalek that was saying "Mercy" and "I show
mercy", not a Dalek-Dalek. This is the only time I can recall a Dalek
using those terms, so wouldn't it be reasonable for The Doctor
to reason
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that something else had changed??
Please refresh my memory ... Did The Doctor know, at this time, that
Clara was inside the Tin Can??
No.
O.K., Tim, so why did The Doctor *KNOW* that he had to go back and safe
Davros??
Tim gavbe you the answer earlier.
I don't believe Tim "gavbe" the answer earlier .... or, at least, it
didn't seem such to me!! Tim may have stated that The Doctor *knew* that
he had to go back and save Davros to set things right ... but there was
no explanation of how The Doctor *knew* he had to do that!!
Clara's stunning ability to evoke the concept of "Mercy" out of a Dalek
casing's computer is what told the Doctor that he had to save young
Davros, (and thus be in a position to teach him about mercy) since
Davros is the only person with enough access to Daleks to give them the
concept of mercy!
Exactly.
Nice library detour.
I did not remember a library.
He mentions that in te Witches familiar.
But was he IN it during the episode?
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Dalek-Dalek that said the word "Mercy", so why did Davros have
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change to the metal salt & pepper shaker??
The Dalek computer had been translating "I am Clara" to "I am a
Dalek", and "I am a friend" to "I am an enemy". It didn't
understand
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the concepts of "I am (human name)" and "I am a friend".
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But it could translate "Please don't kill me" into "Mercy" and "I
won't kill you" into "I show mercy", indicating that the Dalek
computer,
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and there the Daleks, understood the concept of mercy. The Doctor
deduced that the Daleks had gotten the concept of mercy from
Davros, so
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he had to save Davros!
Sorry!! This was the Clara-Dalek that was saying "Mercy"
and "I show
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mercy", not a Dalek-Dalek. This is the only time I can
recall a Dalek
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using those terms, so wouldn't it be reasonable for The Doctor
to reason
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that something else had changed??
Please refresh my memory ... Did The Doctor know, at this
time, that
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Post by Daniel60
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Clara was inside the Tin Can??
No.
O.K., Tim, so why did The Doctor *KNOW* that he had to go
back and safe
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Post by The Doctor
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Davros??
Tim gavbe you the answer earlier.
I don't believe Tim "gavbe" the answer earlier .... or, at least, it
didn't seem such to me!! Tim may have stated that The Doctor
*knew* that
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he had to go back and save Davros to set things right ... but there was
no explanation of how The Doctor *knew* he had to do that!!
Clara's stunning ability to evoke the concept of "Mercy" out of a Dalek
casing's computer is what told the Doctor that he had to save young
Davros, (and thus be in a position to teach him about mercy) since
Davros is the only person with enough access to Daleks to give them the
concept of mercy!
Exactly.
Nice library detour.
I did not remember a library.
He mentions that in te Witches familiar.
But was he IN it during the episode?
Just have to check the flow
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So that actual Dalek creature was dead/non-existent, so
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Dalek-Dalek that said the word "Mercy", so why did Davros have
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change to the metal salt & pepper shaker??
The Dalek computer had been translating "I am Clara" to "I am a
Dalek", and "I am a friend" to "I am an enemy". It didn't
understand
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the concepts of "I am (human name)" and "I am a friend".
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But it could translate "Please don't kill me" into "Mercy" and "I
won't kill you" into "I show mercy", indicating that the Dalek
computer,
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and there the Daleks, understood the concept of mercy. The Doctor
deduced that the Daleks had gotten the concept of mercy from
Davros, so
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he had to save Davros!
Sorry!! This was the Clara-Dalek that was saying "Mercy"
and "I show
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mercy", not a Dalek-Dalek. This is the only time I can
recall a Dalek
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using those terms, so wouldn't it be reasonable for The Doctor
to reason
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that something else had changed??
Please refresh my memory ... Did The Doctor know, at this
time, that
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Post by Daniel60
Post by Daniel60
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Clara was inside the Tin Can??
No.
O.K., Tim, so why did The Doctor *KNOW* that he had to go
back and safe
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Post by Tim Bruening
Post by The Doctor
Post by Daniel60
Post by Daniel60
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Davros??
Tim gavbe you the answer earlier.
I don't believe Tim "gavbe" the answer earlier .... or, at least, it
didn't seem such to me!! Tim may have stated that The Doctor
*knew* that
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Post by Tim Bruening
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he had to go back and save Davros to set things right ... but there was
no explanation of how The Doctor *knew* he had to do that!!
Clara's stunning ability to evoke the concept of "Mercy" out of a Dalek
casing's computer is what told the Doctor that he had to save young
Davros, (and thus be in a position to teach him about mercy) since
Davros is the only person with enough access to Daleks to give them the
concept of mercy!
Exactly.
Nice library detour.
I did not remember a library.
He mentions that in te Witches familiar.
But was he IN it during the episode?
Just have to check the flow
A library in a river?
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it wasn't a
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Dalek-Dalek that said the word "Mercy", so why did Davros have
to make a
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change to the metal salt & pepper shaker??
The Dalek computer had been translating "I am Clara" to "I am a
Dalek", and "I am a friend" to "I am an enemy". It didn't
understand
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the concepts of "I am (human name)" and "I am a friend".
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"Mercy" and "I
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won't kill you" into "I show mercy", indicating that the Dalek
computer,
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and there the Daleks, understood the concept of mercy.
The Doctor
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deduced that the Daleks had gotten the concept of mercy from
Davros, so
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he had to save Davros!
Sorry!! This was the Clara-Dalek that was saying "Mercy"
and "I show
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mercy", not a Dalek-Dalek. This is the only time I can
recall a Dalek
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using those terms, so wouldn't it be reasonable for The Doctor
to reason
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that something else had changed??
Please refresh my memory ... Did The Doctor know, at this
time, that
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Clara was inside the Tin Can??
No.
O.K., Tim, so why did The Doctor *KNOW* that he had to go
back and safe
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Post by The Doctor
Post by Daniel60
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Davros??
Tim gavbe you the answer earlier.
I don't believe Tim "gavbe" the answer earlier .... or, at least, it
didn't seem such to me!! Tim may have stated that The Doctor
*knew* that
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Post by Tim Bruening
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he had to go back and save Davros to set things right ... but
there was
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no explanation of how The Doctor *knew* he had to do that!!
Clara's stunning ability to evoke the concept of "Mercy" out of a Dalek
casing's computer is what told the Doctor that he had to save young
Davros, (and thus be in a position to teach him about mercy) since
Davros is the only person with enough access to Daleks to give them the
concept of mercy!
Exactly.
Nice library detour.
I did not remember a library.
He mentions that in te Witches familiar.
But was he IN it during the episode?
Just have to check the flow
A library in a river?
No
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Since the 12th Doctor taught young Davros about mercy, why did Davros
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They were programmed that way.
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Since the 12th Doctor taught young Davros about mercy, why did Davros
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They were programmed that way.
Why did Davros program so little mercy into the Daleks after the 12th Doctor spoke to him about the importance of mercy?
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Since the 12th Doctor taught young Davros about mercy, why did Davros
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They were programmed that way.
Why did Davros program so little mercy into the Daleks after the 12th
Doctor spoke to him about the importance of mercy?
Check Genesis of the Daleks
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Since the 12th Doctor taught young Davros about mercy, why did Davros
make the Daleks so mean and nasty?
They were programmed that way.
Why did Davros program so little mercy into the Daleks after the 12th
Doctor spoke to him about the importance of mercy?
Check Genesis of the Daleks
In other words, you haven't got a clue!!

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Since the 12th Doctor taught young Davros about mercy, why did Davros
make the Daleks so mean and nasty?
They were programmed that way.
Why did Davros program so little mercy into the Daleks after the 12th
Doctor spoke to him about the importance of mercy?
Check Genesis of the Daleks
In other words, you haven't got a clue!!
Daniel
That gives you he programming.
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Since the 12th Doctor taught young Davros about mercy, why did Davros
make the Daleks so mean and nasty?
They were programmed that way.
Why did Davros program so little mercy into the Daleks after the 12th
Doctor spoke to him about the importance of mercy?
Check Genesis of the Daleks
In other words, you haven't got a clue!!
That gives you he programming.
"he programming"?? Is that any different to "she programming", idiot??

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Since the 12th Doctor taught young Davros about mercy, why did Davros
make the Daleks so mean and nasty?
They were programmed that way.
Why did Davros program so little mercy into the Daleks after the 12th
Doctor spoke to him about the importance of mercy?
Check Genesis of the Daleks
In other words, you haven't got a clue!!
That gives you he programming.
"he programming"?? Is that any different to "she programming", idiot??
Daniel
The programming.
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Since the 12th Doctor taught young Davros about mercy, why did Davros
make the Daleks so mean and nasty?
They were programmed that way.
Why did Davros program so little mercy into the Daleks after the 12th
Doctor spoke to him about the importance of mercy?
Check Genesis of the Daleks
The war led Davros to say "Screw the old man who saved me from the hand mines, I'm going to make my Daleks mean!"?
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Since the 12th Doctor taught young Davros about mercy, why did Davros
make the Daleks so mean and nasty?
They were programmed that way.
Why did Davros program so little mercy into the Daleks after the 12th
Doctor spoke to him about the importance of mercy?
Check Genesis of the Daleks
The war led Davros to say "Screw the old man who saved me from the hand
mines, I'm going to make my Daleks mean!"?
But were programmed accordingly.
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Great moment: The Clara Dalek not only asking for mercy, but also
SHOWING mercy, something unprecedented in the Doctor's experience!
Hence the boy Davros
??? How does the Clara Dalek showing compassion lead to "the bot
Davros", idiot??
s/"the bot Davros"/"the boy Davros"
The current Dalek crop got their understanding of mercy from Davros, who
had donated his own cells to recreate the Daleks after their massive
mishap at the end of the Time War. Thus, the Doctor had to save young
Davros and teach him mercy.
Exactly!
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The Doctor
2017-11-01 15:25:31 UTC
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Great moment: The Clara Dalek not only asking for mercy, but also
SHOWING mercy, something unprecedented in the Doctor's experience!
Hence the boy Davros
??? How does the Clara Dalek showing compassion lead to "the bot
Davros", idiot??
s/"the bot Davros"/"the boy Davros"
Daniel
LOL at your spell checker.
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Member - Liberal International This is doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca
Yahweh, Queen & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising!
https://www.empire.kred/ROOTNK?t=94a1f39b Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism
Talk Sense to a fool and he calls you foolish - Euripides
Daniel60
2017-11-02 08:51:20 UTC
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Great moment: The Clara Dalek not only asking for mercy, but also
SHOWING mercy, something unprecedented in the Doctor's experience!
Hence the boy Davros
??? How does the Clara Dalek showing compassion lead to "the bot
Davros", idiot??
s/"the bot Davros"/"the boy Davros"
LOL at your spell checker.
Why are you sending my spell checker "Lots Of Love", idiot??

Daniel
The Doctor
2017-11-01 15:18:03 UTC
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Great moment: The Clara Dalek not only asking for mercy, but also
SHOWING mercy, something unprecedented in the Doctor's experience!
Hence the boy Davros
??? How does the Clara Dalek showing compassion lead to "the bot
Davros", idiot??
Daniel
You do not recall the end of that one I see.
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Member - Liberal International This is doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca
Yahweh, Queen & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising!
https://www.empire.kred/ROOTNK?t=94a1f39b Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism
Talk Sense to a fool and he calls you foolish - Euripides
Daniel60
2017-11-02 08:52:19 UTC
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Great moment: The Clara Dalek not only asking for mercy, but also
SHOWING mercy, something unprecedented in the Doctor's experience!
Hence the boy Davros
??? How does the Clara Dalek showing compassion lead to "the bot
Davros", idiot??
You do not recall the end of that one I see.
Why??

Daniel
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