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The True Doctor
2019-01-01 22:38:17 UTC
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The New Year's shit fest starts in 9th century England where Chibnall
shits over the face of history.

The Anglo-Saxons have managed to defeat a Dalek by melting its casing
after placing or trapping it on a wooden pyre. How a wooden pyre can
melt something far stronger than iron which requires a temperature 1510
degrees C to melt, which can only be produced by a blast furnace, is
never explained. Yet the Dalek metal case is seen completely melting,
and like the Dalek kindly decides to stay in place without firing while
they point their useless swords at it long enough for this to happen.
What was the casing made of, lead?

Afterwards the Dalek organism is split into three pieces and sent to all
four corners of the earth. Hum... All three corners of the earth. Um...
not quite corners. One piece is sent to Sheffield and the other two are
sent to Siberia and Anuta Island. These places are not even equidistant.

Apparently at this time King Alfred or his court have diplomatic
relations with Siberia and sub-Saharan Africa, since one of the people
entrusted with this task looks Mongolian and the other is obviously from
sub-Saharan Africa. Not only that but these people have also managed to
discover Anuta Island in the middle of the South Pacific, which after
this time no one ever hears of again until 1791.

Unfortunately for us, the woman entrusted with taking the 1/3 portion of
Dalek meat to Sheffield is shot dead before she can bury it like the
others.

Why would anyone in their right mind trust such a task to a feeble woman
in the first place? Why didn't they just let thing burn on the Pyre?

After this the titles start and then begins a mind numbing soap opera
fest stating in the present day.

Chibnall proves that he doesn't have a clue how to write romance, in
trying to portray a relationship between a woman archaeologist and some
guy who's helping her out, portrayed as whip of course, as is the order
of things in Chibnall's SJW crap fests. So we have 10 minutes of
irreverent soap opera inflicted on us, and then the archaeologist
discovers the skeleton of the woman that was carrying the 1/3 Dalek back
in the 9th century.

Then by magic (claimed later-on to be ultra-violet light shining on it,
which Whittaker as usual pulls out of thin air) the 1/3 portion of Dalek
summons the the other two pieces, which magically teleport themselves to
it, and reconstructs itself as a giant squid which attaches itself to a
wall.

WHAT THE FUCK!?

Meanwhile another 20 minutes of irrelevant soap opera begins when Ryan's
dad comes to visit, and Graham being left along to talk to him.

Back in the TARDIS Whittaker surmises that Sheffield is in danger and
lands the TARDIS at the archaeological site which is under the town
hall, and starts pointing her sonic dildo at everyone.

The woman archaeologist after going out of sight to examine the Dalek
organism is taken control of by it, which then conceals itself under her
jacket.

Everyone goes home and more irrelevant soap opera ensues.

The Dalek controlled archaeologist drives her car down a motorway at
high speed and is stopped by the police. She kills the police officers
with a Dalek gun.

If the gun is still working 1100 years later, then why didn't the Dalek
defend itself with it before?

The woman then takes the police car and a police jacket and drives to a
farm, where she kills the farmer the same way, and reassembles the Dalek
casing from parts of the original case that came from nowhere.

The irrelevant mind numbing soap opera involving Ryan's Dad continues
with Graham now joined by Ryan, and Whittaker attempts to do a chemical
analysis using a box of eggs.

Is this shit supposed to be educational? Why does she need a box of
fucking eggs from Graham's kitchen when she's got a fucking lab in the
TARDIS for fucks sake. Is Chibnall trying to get Whittaker to make a
joke? The Woman can't act. She has no understanding of humour, and
neither does Chibnall. Why can't her sonic dildo do the analysis, after
all it can do everything else for her.

So it's a Dalek, then. Everyone knew it was a fucking Dalek before the
episode even started, and worked out the entire plot. What does Chibnall
thinks he's don't by pretending that these some kind of mystery. The
brainless fool doesn't have a clue how to do mystery. It doesn't work
when the audience already knows what's coming.

So, Whittaker finally for once, decides to contact UNIT for once, but
UNIT has been disbanded in the UK because of Brexit. FOR FUCKS BLOODY
SAKE! Why does Chibnall think he's doing Little Britain?

Then, using her magic powers, Whittaker manages to work out the location
of the Dalek organism along with the woman archeologist from her mobile
phone signal. But the Dalek organism doesn't have a mobile phone so how
can she see that it's several meters away from the woman?

The TARDIS leaves with everyone including Ryan's dad and arrives at GCHQ
which the Dalek has decided will enable it to send a signal to the Dalek
fleet by diverting all of earth's power to the communications dishes and
pointing them at the sky, and bringing down the internet in the process.

GHCQ hasn't used visible radio dishes for the past 40 fucking years. All
of it's communications arrays are under covers, because if they were
not, the Russian would know where they were pointing at.

Just how fucking stupid does Chibnall think the audience are? There's
isn't enough power on the planet to send a detectable radio signal to
Alpha Centuri let alone to Skaro, and putting it though an ordinary
communications dish, fuck the dish, putting it though an ordinary power
transmission line will burn it out completely.

Besides which the dishes aren't even focused closely enough to
concentrate on something the size of a planet--and like the Dalek knows
it's exact position in its orbit, when it doesn't even have a clue what
century it's in--so most of the energy will not even reach it, and then
only after many years of travel.

Then ensures 10 more minutes of totally irrelevant mind numbing soap
opera which has no place at all in Doctor Who, about some woman's kids
complaining about having no internet. But how come the lights are still on?

Fuck Chibnall and his stupid shit! All of the soap opera could have been
cut out completely and made no difference to the story.

After hearing about how the Dalek was originally destroyed--like this
was actually recorded as history, then how come no one else have even
heard of it?--Whittaker emerges from the TARDIS under protection of a
force field and using her magic dildo destroys the reconstructed Dalek
casing by melting it.

But the Dalek creature survives and attaches itself to Ryan's Dad in the
TARDIS. So taking off to take it to the fleet--like how the fuck does
she know where it even is?--she creates a vacuum tunnel around the Dalek
and Ryan's dad, as if by magic, to suck the Dalek creature off Ryan's
dad's back, who Ryan manages to save before he is sucked out of the TARDIS.

Fifty minutes of irreverent mind numbing soap opera drivel broken up by
Chibnall's fifth rate rip-off of Dalek from Series 1.

Another pile of stinking excrement shat from Chibnall's fucking kolos,
padded out with mind numbing irrelevant soap opera and proving Chibnall
has no idea how to write science fiction, can't write romance either,
and can't do humour at all, especially with a shit talent-less actress
like Whittaker who still hasn't learned how to act, and she never will!

0/10

Now an 18 month long wait until the next series, because Chibnall wants
another fucking long holiday.

This has been the worst series ever!

Doctor Who would be better if it were cancelled entirely, than fans
having to suffer this shit being inflicted on them again.

The damage Chibnall and Whittaker have done is irreparable.
The Doctor
2019-01-02 00:59:58 UTC
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Post by The True Doctor
The New Year's shit fest starts in 9th century England where Chibnall
shits over the face of history.
And Chinball is kicked in the crotch yet again.
Post by The True Doctor
The Anglo-Saxons have managed to defeat a Dalek by melting its casing
after placing or trapping it on a wooden pyre. How a wooden pyre can
melt something far stronger than iron which requires a temperature 1510
degrees C to melt, which can only be produced by a blast furnace, is
never explained. Yet the Dalek metal case is seen completely melting,
and like the Dalek kindly decides to stay in place without firing while
they point their useless swords at it long enough for this to happen.
What was the casing made of, lead?
Who knows? Dalekanium?
Post by The True Doctor
Afterwards the Dalek organism is split into three pieces and sent to all
four corners of the earth. Hum... All three corners of the earth. Um...
not quite corners. One piece is sent to Sheffield and the other two are
sent to Siberia and Anuta Island. These places are not even equidistant.
Noted.
Post by The True Doctor
Apparently at this time King Alfred or his court have diplomatic
relations with Siberia and sub-Saharan Africa, since one of the people
entrusted with this task looks Mongolian and the other is obviously from
sub-Saharan Africa. Not only that but these people have also managed to
discover Anuta Island in the middle of the South Pacific, which after
this time no one ever hears of again until 1791.
Hmm... Bit nit as Tim would say.
Post by The True Doctor
Unfortunately for us, the woman entrusted with taking the 1/3 portion of
Dalek meat to Sheffield is shot dead before she can bury it like the
others.
Why would anyone in their right mind trust such a task to a feeble woman
in the first place? Why didn't they just let thing burn on the Pyre?
Make better sense.
Post by The True Doctor
After this the titles start and then begins a mind numbing soap opera
fest stating in the present day.
Chibnall proves that he doesn't have a clue how to write romance, in
trying to portray a relationship between a woman archaeologist and some
guy who's helping her out, portrayed as whip of course, as is the order
of things in Chibnall's SJW crap fests. So we have 10 minutes of
irreverent soap opera inflicted on us, and then the archaeologist
discovers the skeleton of the woman that was carrying the 1/3 Dalek back
in the 9th century.
Then by magic (claimed later-on to be ultra-violet light shining on it,
which Whittaker as usual pulls out of thin air) the 1/3 portion of Dalek
summons the the other two pieces, which magically teleport themselves to
it, and reconstructs itself as a giant squid which attaches itself to a
wall.
WHAT THE FUCK!?
Meanwhile another 20 minutes of irrelevant soap opera begins when Ryan's
dad comes to visit, and Graham being left along to talk to him.
Back in the TARDIS Whittaker surmises that Sheffield is in danger and
lands the TARDIS at the archaeological site which is under the town
hall, and starts pointing her sonic dildo at everyone.
The woman archaeologist after going out of sight to examine the Dalek
organism is taken control of by it, which then conceals itself under her
jacket.
Everyone goes home and more irrelevant soap opera ensues.
The Dalek controlled archaeologist drives her car down a motorway at
high speed and is stopped by the police. She kills the police officers
with a Dalek gun.
If the gun is still working 1100 years later, then why didn't the Dalek
defend itself with it before?
The woman then takes the police car and a police jacket and drives to a
farm, where she kills the farmer the same way, and reassembles the Dalek
casing from parts of the original case that came from nowhere.
The irrelevant mind numbing soap opera involving Ryan's Dad continues
with Graham now joined by Ryan, and Whittaker attempts to do a chemical
analysis using a box of eggs.
Is this shit supposed to be educational? Why does she need a box of
fucking eggs from Graham's kitchen when she's got a fucking lab in the
TARDIS for fucks sake. Is Chibnall trying to get Whittaker to make a
joke? The Woman can't act. She has no understanding of humour, and
neither does Chibnall. Why can't her sonic dildo do the analysis, after
all it can do everything else for her.
So it's a Dalek, then. Everyone knew it was a fucking Dalek before the
episode even started, and worked out the entire plot. What does Chibnall
thinks he's don't by pretending that these some kind of mystery. The
brainless fool doesn't have a clue how to do mystery. It doesn't work
when the audience already knows what's coming.
So, Whittaker finally for once, decides to contact UNIT for once, but
UNIT has been disbanded in the UK because of Brexit. FOR FUCKS BLOODY
SAKE! Why does Chibnall think he's doing Little Britain?
He does indeed.
Post by The True Doctor
Then, using her magic powers, Whittaker manages to work out the location
of the Dalek organism along with the woman archeologist from her mobile
phone signal. But the Dalek organism doesn't have a mobile phone so how
can she see that it's several meters away from the woman?
The TARDIS leaves with everyone including Ryan's dad and arrives at GCHQ
which the Dalek has decided will enable it to send a signal to the Dalek
fleet by diverting all of earth's power to the communications dishes and
pointing them at the sky, and bringing down the internet in the process.
GHCQ hasn't used visible radio dishes for the past 40 fucking years. All
of it's communications arrays are under covers, because if they were
not, the Russian would know where they were pointing at.
Good point.
Post by The True Doctor
Just how fucking stupid does Chibnall think the audience are? There's
isn't enough power on the planet to send a detectable radio signal to
Alpha Centuri let alone to Skaro, and putting it though an ordinary
communications dish, fuck the dish, putting it though an ordinary power
transmission line will burn it out completely.
Besides which the dishes aren't even focused closely enough to
concentrate on something the size of a planet--and like the Dalek knows
it's exact position in its orbit, when it doesn't even have a clue what
century it's in--so most of the energy will not even reach it, and then
only after many years of travel.
Then ensures 10 more minutes of totally irrelevant mind numbing soap
opera which has no place at all in Doctor Who, about some woman's kids
complaining about having no internet. But how come the lights are still on?
Fuck Chibnall and his stupid shit! All of the soap opera could have been
cut out completely and made no difference to the story.
After hearing about how the Dalek was originally destroyed--like this
was actually recorded as history, then how come no one else have even
heard of it?--Whittaker emerges from the TARDIS under protection of a
force field and using her magic dildo destroys the reconstructed Dalek
casing by melting it.
But the Dalek creature survives and attaches itself to Ryan's Dad in the
TARDIS. So taking off to take it to the fleet--like how the fuck does
she know where it even is?--she creates a vacuum tunnel around the Dalek
and Ryan's dad, as if by magic, to suck the Dalek creature off Ryan's
dad's back, who Ryan manages to save before he is sucked out of the TARDIS.
Fifty minutes of irreverent mind numbing soap opera drivel broken up by
Chibnall's fifth rate rip-off of Dalek from Series 1.
Chibnall has not talent!
Post by The True Doctor
Another pile of stinking excrement shat from Chibnall's fucking kolos,
padded out with mind numbing irrelevant soap opera and proving Chibnall
has no idea how to write science fiction, can't write romance either,
and can't do humour at all, especially with a shit talent-less actress
like Whittaker who still hasn't learned how to act, and she never will!
Talentless writing.
Post by The True Doctor
0/10
Now an 18 month long wait until the next series, because Chibnall wants
another fucking long holiday.
This has been the worst series ever!
Fire Chibnall and Whittaker!
Post by The True Doctor
Doctor Who would be better if it were cancelled entirely, than fans
having to suffer this shit being inflicted on them again.
The damage Chibnall and Whittaker have done is irreparable.
Fire them now! Apologists like Wilson and Rhodes are mental patients who
are a danger to society.
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Idlehands
2019-01-02 03:50:45 UTC
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Fire them now! Apologists like Wilson and Rhodes are mental patients who
are a danger to society.
You really need to step back and get a firm grip on reality again binky
boy. It's a TV show, it's a work of fiction. It has nothing to do with
the real world.

So get a grip binky, or you will be a danger to society.

Sheesh.
--
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stories and we are now smart enough to take them symbolically, but that
they told them symbolically and we are now dumb enough to take them
literally.”

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2019-01-02 08:01:50 UTC
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Fire them now! Apologists like Wilson and Rhodes are mental patients who
are a danger to society.
You really need to step back and get a firm grip on reality again binky
boy. It's a TV show, it's a work of fiction. It has nothing to do with
the real world.
Post by Idlehands
So get a grip binky, or you will be a danger to society.
Sheesh.
I really don't think Aggy, Yads or Tim should be watching TV shows like Doctor Who. Their parents should know that they're too immature. They should be watching something more appropriate, such as the Disney Channel.
Idlehands
2019-01-02 13:39:44 UTC
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Fire them now! Apologists like Wilson and Rhodes are mental patients who
are a danger to society.
You really need to step back and get a firm grip on reality again binky
boy. It's a TV show, it's a work of fiction. It has nothing to do with
the real world.
Post by Idlehands
So get a grip binky, or you will be a danger to society.
Sheesh.
I really don't think Aggy, Yads or Tim should be watching TV shows like Doctor Who. Their parents should know that they're too immature. They should be watching something more appropriate, such as the Disney Channel.
I am not even sure Disney is such a good idea, they do not seem capable
of separating fantasy from reality. Maybe they should stick to Dr.
Seuss books and avoid TV all together.
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stories and we are now smart enough to take them symbolically, but that
they told them symbolically and we are now dumb enough to take them
literally.”

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The Doctor
2019-01-02 14:21:09 UTC
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Fire them now! Apologists like Wilson and Rhodes are mental patients who
are a danger to society.
You really need to step back and get a firm grip on reality again binky
boy. It's a TV show, it's a work of fiction. It has nothing to do with
the real world.
Post by Idlehands
So get a grip binky, or you will be a danger to society.
Sheesh.
I really don't think Aggy, Yads or Tim should be watching TV shows like
Doctor Who. Their parents should know that they're too immature. They
should be watching something more appropriate, such as the Disney
Channel.
You must love occult magic Stephen Wilson.
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2019-01-02 14:28:01 UTC
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I really don't think Aggy, Yads or Tim should be watching TV shows like
Doctor Who. Their parents should know that they're too immature. They
should be watching something more appropriate, such as the Disney
Channel.
You must love occult magic Stephen Wilson.
OK. I'm used to you making bizarre statements, but that one's about as kookie as they come.
The Doctor
2019-01-02 14:58:30 UTC
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I really don't think Aggy, Yads or Tim should be watching TV shows like
Doctor Who. Their parents should know that they're too immature. They
should be watching something more appropriate, such as the Disney
Channel.
You must love occult magic Stephen Wilson.
OK. I'm used to you making bizarre statements, but that one's about as kookie as they come.
Disney is based on the occult!
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2019-01-02 17:06:35 UTC
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I really don't think Aggy, Yads or Tim should be watching TV shows like
Doctor Who. Their parents should know that they're too immature. They
should be watching something more appropriate, such as the Disney
Channel.
You must love occult magic Stephen Wilson.
OK. I'm used to you making bizarre statements, but that one's about as kookie as they come.
Disney is based on the occult!
Oh yeah. I see. Silly me.

You know your head's completely fucked, Yads?
The Doctor
2019-01-02 22:40:06 UTC
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I really don't think Aggy, Yads or Tim should be watching TV shows like
Doctor Who. Their parents should know that they're too immature. They
should be watching something more appropriate, such as the Disney
Channel.
You must love occult magic Stephen Wilson.
OK. I'm used to you making bizarre statements, but that one's about as
kookie as they come.
Disney is based on the occult!
Oh yeah. I see. Silly me.
You know your head's completely f*ked, Yads?
Soory Wilson you are the mental patient escapee!
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2019-01-02 22:55:25 UTC
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Disney is based on the occult!
Oh yeah. I see. Silly me.
You know your head's completely f*ked, Yads?
Soory Wilson you are the mental patient escapee!
I'm not called Soory, Yads.

Talking of mental patients, how's your succubus? Still visiting you? And any more poltergeists? Did you get the bookshelf taken away just in case? Not like you need a bookshelf anyway...
The Doctor
2019-01-02 22:58:29 UTC
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Disney is based on the occult!
Oh yeah. I see. Silly me.
You know your head's completely f*ked, Yads?
Soory Wilson you are the mental patient escapee!
I'm not called Soory, Yads.
Talking of mental patients, how's your succubus? Still visiting you? And
any more poltergeists? Did you get the bookshelf taken away just in
case? Not like you need a bookshelf anyway...
Said a certified loon that Ed Rhodes should be calling a l%n !
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2019-01-03 00:51:10 UTC
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I really don't think Aggy, Yads or Tim should be watching TV shows like
Doctor Who. Their parents should know that they're too immature. They
should be watching something more appropriate, such as the Disney
Channel.
You must love occult magic Stephen Wilson.
OK. I'm used to you making bizarre statements, but that one's about as
kookie as they come.
Disney is based on the occult!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA......

January 2nd and binky has already set a new low for intelligence, I do
believe this is one of the stupidest things you have ever posted binky
and that is saying a lot.
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stories and we are now smart enough to take them symbolically, but that
they told them symbolically and we are now dumb enough to take them
literally.”

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Pudentame
2019-01-04 00:34:02 UTC
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You really need to step back and get a firm grip on reality again binky
boy. It's a TV show, it's a work of fiction. It has nothing to do with
the real world.
Oh yeah, like that's going to happen.
Post by Idlehands
So get a grip binky, or you will be a danger to society.
Too late.
Idlehands
2019-01-04 01:05:42 UTC
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Post by Idlehands
You really need to step back and get a firm grip on reality again binky
boy. It's a TV show, it's a work of fiction. It has nothing to do with
the real world.
Oh yeah, like that's going to happen.
Post by Idlehands
So get a grip binky, or you will be a danger to society.
Too late.
His parents should have him committed, the public would be safe and they
could get their basement back.

Win-Win.
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“My point, once again, is not that those ancient people told literal
stories and we are now smart enough to take them symbolically, but that
they told them symbolically and we are now dumb enough to take them
literally.”

John Dominic Crossan
The Doctor
2019-01-04 01:23:47 UTC
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Post by Idlehands
You really need to step back and get a firm grip on reality again binky
boy. It's a TV show, it's a work of fiction. It has nothing to do with
the real world.
Oh yeah, like that's going to happen.
Post by Idlehands
So get a grip binky, or you will be a danger to society.
Too late.
Idlehands lies as usual.
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Idlehands
2019-01-04 03:04:06 UTC
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Post by Idlehands
You really need to step back and get a firm grip on reality again binky
boy. It's a TV show, it's a work of fiction. It has nothing to do with
the real world.
Oh yeah, like that's going to happen.
Post by Idlehands
So get a grip binky, or you will be a danger to society.
Too late.
Idlehands lies as usual.
You keep saying this but I didn't make the "Too late" comment, therefore
you lied about me lying.

Why do you make Jesus cry binky?
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“My point, once again, is not that those ancient people told literal
stories and we are now smart enough to take them symbolically, but that
they told them symbolically and we are now dumb enough to take them
literally.”

John Dominic Crossan
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2019-01-02 03:59:07 UTC
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The New Year's shit fest starts in 9th century England where Chibnall
shits over the face of history.
I thought the special was quite good and entertaining.

I read a lot of people in the UK were upset about a
BREXIT dig. But I took that as a dig at the whole
world in general due the state of the alliances between
the US/UK and the rest of the world these days, seeing
UNIT is funded by the UN (IIRC). The call to the 'help
desk' was funny :)

The start to me indicated thousands of people went
after the single Dalek until it was worn down and
destoryed, indicating many thousands of people were
killed in the process. That was an interesting twist
of things.

Having the flu today gave me the opportunity to see the
episodes I missed after I stopped watching after the
spider episode. Seems the S11 as a hole was good, and
two of the episodes this season are among my favorites.
Good to me means it allows me to escape from reality
for a short period of time.

John
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2019-01-02 07:46:28 UTC
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The New Year's shit fest starts in 9th century England where Chibnall
shits over the face of history.
I thought the special was quite good and entertaining.
I read a lot of people in the UK were upset about a
BREXIT dig. But I took that as a dig at the whole
world in general due the state of the alliances between
the US/UK and the rest of the world these days, seeing
UNIT is funded by the UN (IIRC). The call to the 'help
desk' was funny :)
Post by John McCue
The start to me indicated thousands of people went
after the single Dalek until it was worn down and
destoryed, indicating many thousands of people were
killed in the process. That was an interesting twist
of things.
Post by John McCue
Having the flu today gave me the opportunity to see the
episodes I missed after I stopped watching after the
spider episode. Seems the S11 as a hole was good, and
two of the episodes this season are among my favorites.
Good to me means it allows me to escape from reality
for a short period of time.

I enjoyed it. Aggy and Yads both enjoyed it. They say they hated it, but they're both frauds. They have watched every single story this series and now they're upset they have to wait so long before the next series.

So despite whatever they appear to claim, it's clear they love it. Nobody here has never taken anything they say seriously.
The Doctor
2019-01-02 14:19:25 UTC
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Post by The True Doctor
The New Year's shit fest starts in 9th century England where Chibnall
shits over the face of history.
I thought the special was quite good and entertaining.
I read a lot of people in the UK were upset about a
BREXIT dig. But I took that as a dig at the whole
world in general due the state of the alliances between
the US/UK and the rest of the world these days, seeing
UNIT is funded by the UN (IIRC). The call to the 'help
desk' was funny :)
Post by John McCue
The start to me indicated thousands of people went
after the single Dalek until it was worn down and
destoryed, indicating many thousands of people were
killed in the process. That was an interesting twist
of things.
Post by John McCue
Having the flu today gave me the opportunity to see the
episodes I missed after I stopped watching after the
spider episode. Seems the S11 as a hole was good, and
two of the episodes this season are among my favorites.
Good to me means it allows me to escape from reality
for a short period of time.
I enjoyed it. Aggy and Yads both enjoyed it. They say they hated it, but
they're both frauds. They have watched every single story this series
and now they're upset they have to wait so long before the next series.
So despite whatever they appear to claim, it's clear they love it.
Nobody here has never taken anything they say seriously.
Stephen Wilson is severely mentally ill!
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2019-01-03 00:52:12 UTC
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Post by John McCue
Post by The True Doctor
The New Year's shit fest starts in 9th century England where Chibnall
shits over the face of history.
I thought the special was quite good and entertaining.
I read a lot of people in the UK were upset about a
BREXIT dig. But I took that as a dig at the whole
world in general due the state of the alliances between
the US/UK and the rest of the world these days, seeing
UNIT is funded by the UN (IIRC). The call to the 'help
desk' was funny :)
Post by John McCue
The start to me indicated thousands of people went
after the single Dalek until it was worn down and
destoryed, indicating many thousands of people were
killed in the process. That was an interesting twist
of things.
Post by John McCue
Having the flu today gave me the opportunity to see the
episodes I missed after I stopped watching after the
spider episode. Seems the S11 as a hole was good, and
two of the episodes this season are among my favorites.
Good to me means it allows me to escape from reality
for a short period of time.
I enjoyed it. Aggy and Yads both enjoyed it. They say they hated it, but
they're both frauds. They have watched every single story this series
and now they're upset they have to wait so long before the next series.
So despite whatever they appear to claim, it's clear they love it.
Nobody here has never taken anything they say seriously.
Stephen Wilson is severely mentally ill!
States binky who claims Disney is based on the "occult".

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
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stories and we are now smart enough to take them symbolically, but that
they told them symbolically and we are now dumb enough to take them
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The Doctor
2019-01-02 14:11:22 UTC
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Post by The True Doctor
The New Year's shit fest starts in 9th century England where Chibnall
shits over the face of history.
I thought the special was quite good and entertaining.
I read a lot of people in the UK were upset about a
BREXIT dig. But I took that as a dig at the whole
world in general due the state of the alliances between
the US/UK and the rest of the world these days, seeing
UNIT is funded by the UN (IIRC). The call to the 'help
desk' was funny :)
Stupid really. Brexit is a breakaway from the EU and not the UN!
Post by John McCue
The start to me indicated thousands of people went
after the single Dalek until it was worn down and
destoryed, indicating many thousands of people were
killed in the process. That was an interesting twist
of things.
Having the flu today gave me the opportunity to see the
episodes I missed after I stopped watching after the
spider episode. Seems the S11 as a hole was good, and
two of the episodes this season are among my favorites.
Good to me means it allows me to escape from reality
for a short period of time.
John
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2019-01-03 11:09:00 UTC
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The New Year's shit fest starts in 9th century England where Chibnall
shits over the face of history.
I thought the special was quite good and entertaining.
I read a lot of people in the UK were upset about a
BREXIT dig. But I took that as a dig at the whole
world in general due the state of the alliances between
the US/UK and the rest of the world these days, seeing
UNIT is funded by the UN (IIRC). The call to the 'help
desk' was funny :)
Stupid really. Brexit is a breakaway from the EU and not the UN!
Oww!! Hello. The idiot actually does know something about the real
World!! Shock!! Horror!!
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The New Year's shit fest starts in 9th century England where Chibnall
shits over the face of history.
I thought the special was quite good and entertaining.
I read a lot of people in the UK were upset about a
BREXIT dig. But I took that as a dig at the whole
world in general due the state of the alliances between
the US/UK and the rest of the world these days, seeing
UNIT is funded by the UN (IIRC). The call to the 'help
desk' was funny :)
Stupid really. Brexit is a breakaway from the EU and not the UN!
Oww!! Hello. The idiot actually does know something about the real
World!! Shock!! Horror!!
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And UNIT has its HQ in Geneva.
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2019-01-02 22:52:52 UTC
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Having the flu today gave me the opportunity to see the
episodes I missed after I stopped watching after the
spider episode. Seems the S11 as a hole was good, and
two of the episodes this season are among my favorites.
Good to me means it allows me to escape from reality
for a short period of time.
Ah, now I understand why Aggy has such a hard time enjoying Dr Who. His entire life is an escape from reality.
The Doctor
2019-01-02 22:57:48 UTC
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Having the flu today gave me the opportunity to see the
episodes I missed after I stopped watching after the
spider episode. Seems the S11 as a hole was good, and
two of the episodes this season are among my favorites.
Good to me means it allows me to escape from reality
for a short period of time.
Ah, now I understand why Aggy has such a hard time enjoying Dr Who. His
entire life is an escape from reality.
Yawn!
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2019-01-04 00:39:03 UTC
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The New Year's shit fest starts in 9th century England where Chibnall
shits over the face of history.
I thought the special was quite good and entertaining.
I would have made a small change.

When Ryan's Dad was being sucked out of the TARDIS into the collapsing
star, I would have had Graham help Ryan pull him back. Add a bit of
reconciliation to the resolution.

Still, I enjoyed it. The only thing that disappoints me is knowing how
long it's going to be before the next season.
The Doctor
2019-01-04 01:24:42 UTC
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Post by John McCue
Post by The True Doctor
The New Year's shit fest starts in 9th century England where Chibnall
shits over the face of history.
I thought the special was quite good and entertaining.
I would have made a small change.
When Ryan's Dad was being sucked out of the TARDIS into the collapsing
star, I would have had Graham help Ryan pull him back. Add a bit of
reconciliation to the resolution.
Still, I enjoyed it. The only thing that disappoints me is knowing how
long it's going to be before the next season.
If Chibnall and Whittaker are fired, it might be worth the wait.
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I would have made a small change.
When Ryan's Dad was being sucked out of the TARDIS into the collapsing
star, I would have had Graham help Ryan pull him back. Add a bit of
reconciliation to the resolution.
That would have been better, at the time I thought both
were going to get pulled out.
Post by Pudentame
Still, I enjoyed it. The only thing that disappoints me is knowing how
long it's going to be before the next season.
I know :(
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2019-01-04 16:32:56 UTC
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Post by Pudentame
I would have made a small change.
When Ryan's Dad was being sucked out of the TARDIS into the collapsing
star, I would have had Graham help Ryan pull him back. Add a bit of
reconciliation to the resolution.
That would have been better, at the time I thought both
were going to get pulled out.
Post by Pudentame
Still, I enjoyed it. The only thing that disappoints me is knowing how
long it's going to be before the next season.
I know :(
Hopefully Chibnall Whittaker and crew are fired TODAY!
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2019-01-05 00:13:56 UTC
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I would have made a small change.
When Ryan's Dad was being sucked out of the TARDIS into the collapsing
star, I would have had Graham help Ryan pull him back. Add a bit of
reconciliation to the resolution.
That would have been better, at the time I thought both
were going to get pulled out. >>
Post by Pudentame
Still, I enjoyed it. The only thing that disappoints me is knowing how
long it's going to be before the next season.
I know :(
Hopefully Chibnall Whittaker and crew are fired TODAY!
Maybe you should hold your breath? Perhaps use a plastic bag over your
head to assist you? Make sure it's a green bag....please.
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stories and we are now smart enough to take them symbolically, but that
they told them symbolically and we are now dumb enough to take them
literally.”

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Timothy Bruening
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The New Year's shit fest starts in 9th century England where Chibnall
shits over the face of history.
The Anglo-Saxons have managed to defeat a Dalek by melting its casing
after placing or trapping it on a wooden pyre. How a wooden pyre can
melt something far stronger than iron which requires a temperature 1510
degrees C to melt, which can only be produced by a blast furnace, is
never explained. Yet the Dalek metal case is seen completely melting,
and like the Dalek kindly decides to stay in place without firing while
they point their useless swords at it long enough for this to happen.
What was the casing made of, lead?
I thought I saw a net over the Dalek in the book about that incident.

Fanwank: Ashildr came to the battle and brought electric eels, which were used to generate the necessary heat via electricity.
Post by The True Doctor
Afterwards the Dalek organism is split into three pieces and sent to all
four corners of the earth. Hum... All three corners of the earth. Um...
not quite corners. One piece is sent to Sheffield and the other two are
sent to Siberia and Anuta Island. These places are not even equidistant.
Apparently at this time King Alfred or his court have diplomatic
relations with Siberia and sub-Saharan Africa, since one of the people
entrusted with this task looks Mongolian and the other is obviously from
sub-Saharan Africa.
Prologue did hint that forces from widely separated parts of the world.

Not only that but these people have also managed to
Post by The True Doctor
discover Anuta Island in the middle of the South Pacific, which after
this time no one ever hears of again until 1791.
Ashildr's Vikings probably discovered Anuta. After all, they got to South America & brought back electric eels!
Post by The True Doctor
The Dalek controlled archaeologist drives her car down a motorway at
high speed and is stopped by the police. She kills the police officers
with a Dalek gun.
She had mentioned Daleks to one cop, who didn't recognize that term! Why didn't that cop remember the recent Dalek attacks of Doomsday & The Stolen Earth/Journey's End?
Post by The True Doctor
If the gun is still working 1100 years later, then why didn't the Dalek
defend itself with it before?
The woman then takes the police car and a police jacket and drives to a
farm, where she kills the farmer the same way, and reassembles the Dalek
casing from parts of the original case that came from nowhere.
Maybe they had been found by archaeologists previously!
Post by The True Doctor
So, Whittaker finally for once, decides to contact UNIT for once, but
UNIT has been disbanded in the UK because of Brexit. FOR FUCKS BLOODY
SAKE! Why does Chibnall think he's doing Little Britain?
Trump might be to blame as well.
Post by The True Doctor
Then, using her magic powers, Whittaker manages to work out the location
of the Dalek organism along with the woman archeologist from her mobile
phone signal. But the Dalek organism doesn't have a mobile phone so how
can she see that it's several meters away from the woman?
TARDIS would surely have ability to detect Daleks if they are near a person it is tracking! After all, the Doctor is this universe's foremost Dalek expert!
Post by The True Doctor
The TARDIS leaves with everyone including Ryan's dad and arrives at GCHQ
which the Dalek has decided will enable it to send a signal to the Dalek
fleet by diverting all of earth's power to the communications dishes and
pointing them at the sky, and bringing down the internet in the process.
GHCQ hasn't used visible radio dishes for the past 40 fucking years. All
of it's communications arrays are under covers, because if they were
not, the Russian would know where they were pointing at.
Just how fucking stupid does Chibnall think the audience are? There's
isn't enough power on the planet to send a detectable radio signal to
Alpha Centuri let alone to Skaro, and putting it though an ordinary
communications dish, fuck the dish, putting it though an ordinary power
transmission line will burn it out completely.
I assume a modification to transmit an FTL signal.
Post by The True Doctor
Besides which the dishes aren't even focused closely enough to
concentrate on something the size of a planet--and like the Dalek knows
it's exact position in its orbit, when it doesn't even have a clue what
century it's in--so most of the energy will not even reach it, and then
only after many years of travel.
Dalek tapped into Internet & Lyn's brain, so would have learned what year it was & how long it had been buried.
Post by The True Doctor
Then ensures 10 more minutes of totally irrelevant mind numbing soap
opera which has no place at all in Doctor Who, about some woman's kids
complaining about having no internet. But how come the lights are still on?
I have lost the Internet without losing the lights!
Post by The True Doctor
After hearing about how the Dalek was originally destroyed--like this
was actually recorded as history, then how come no one else have even
heard of it?
Top secret records kept by Order of the Custodians.

--Whittaker emerges from the TARDIS under protection of a
Post by The True Doctor
force field and using her magic dildo destroys the reconstructed Dalek
casing by melting it.
But the Dalek creature survives and attaches itself to Ryan's Dad in the
TARDIS. So taking off to take it to the fleet--like how the fuck does
she know where it even is?
We saw supernova destroyed system instead of a fleet. I bet that she LIED to the Dalek about where she was taking it! She went to a supernova instead of the fleet!

--she creates a vacuum tunnel around the Dalek
Post by The True Doctor
and Ryan's dad, as if by magic, to suck the Dalek creature off Ryan's
dad's back, who Ryan manages to save before he is sucked out of the TARDIS.
I bet that Ryan helped knock off the Dalek!
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2019-01-02 05:08:14 UTC
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Post by The True Doctor
The New Year's shit fest starts in 9th century England where Chibnall
shits over the face of history.
The Anglo-Saxons have managed to defeat a Dalek by melting its casing
after placing or trapping it on a wooden pyre. How a wooden pyre can
melt something far stronger than iron which requires a temperature 1510
degrees C to melt, which can only be produced by a blast furnace, is
never explained. Yet the Dalek metal case is seen completely melting,
and like the Dalek kindly decides to stay in place without firing while
they point their useless swords at it long enough for this to happen.
What was the casing made of, lead?
I thought I saw a net over the Dalek in the book about that incident.
Why didn't it blast the net away?
Post by Timothy Bruening
Fanwank: Ashildr came to the battle and brought electric eels, which were used to generate the necessary heat via electricity.
Post by The True Doctor
Afterwards the Dalek organism is split into three pieces and sent to all
four corners of the earth. Hum... All three corners of the earth. Um...
not quite corners. One piece is sent to Sheffield and the other two are
sent to Siberia and Anuta Island. These places are not even equidistant.
Apparently at this time King Alfred or his court have diplomatic
relations with Siberia and sub-Saharan Africa, since one of the people
entrusted with this task looks Mongolian and the other is obviously from
sub-Saharan Africa.
Prologue did hint that forces from widely separated parts of the world.
Not only that but these people have also managed to
Post by The True Doctor
discover Anuta Island in the middle of the South Pacific, which after
this time no one ever hears of again until 1791.
Ashildr's Vikings probably discovered Anuta. After all, they got to South America & brought back electric eels!
The Vikings never got to the Pacific where Anuta is situated.
Post by Timothy Bruening
Post by The True Doctor
The Dalek controlled archaeologist drives her car down a motorway at
high speed and is stopped by the police. She kills the police officers
with a Dalek gun.
She had mentioned Daleks to one cop, who didn't recognize that term! Why didn't that cop remember the recent Dalek attacks of Doomsday & The Stolen Earth/Journey's End?
Exactly. Or the giant spiders that invaded Sheffield, or the corpse
monks, or the moon turning into a soup dragon. Why didn't Yaz use her
police ID to get the cops to help?
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Post by The True Doctor
If the gun is still working 1100 years later, then why didn't the Dalek
defend itself with it before?
The woman then takes the police car and a police jacket and drives to a
farm, where she kills the farmer the same way, and reassembles the Dalek
casing from parts of the original case that came from nowhere.
Maybe they had been found by archaeologists previously!
When? Why wasn't this shown?
Post by Timothy Bruening
Post by The True Doctor
So, Whittaker finally for once, decides to contact UNIT for once, but
UNIT has been disbanded in the UK because of Brexit. FOR FUCKS BLOODY
SAKE! Why does Chibnall think he's doing Little Britain?
Trump might be to blame as well.
Why? UNIT is part of the UN so why would Britain which is a permanent
member of the security council be blocked from using it? It's Chibnall
shitting on the viewers again with his sick agenda.
Post by Timothy Bruening
Post by The True Doctor
Then, using her magic powers, Whittaker manages to work out the location
of the Dalek organism along with the woman archeologist from her mobile
phone signal. But the Dalek organism doesn't have a mobile phone so how
can she see that it's several meters away from the woman?
TARDIS would surely have ability to detect Daleks if they are near a person it is tracking! After all, the Doctor is this universe's foremost Dalek expert!
It never had such an ability before. If it can detect a Dalek then why
can't it materialize over it and fling it into the eye of harmony?
Post by Timothy Bruening
Post by The True Doctor
The TARDIS leaves with everyone including Ryan's dad and arrives at GCHQ
which the Dalek has decided will enable it to send a signal to the Dalek
fleet by diverting all of earth's power to the communications dishes and
pointing them at the sky, and bringing down the internet in the process.
GHCQ hasn't used visible radio dishes for the past 40 fucking years. All
of it's communications arrays are under covers, because if they were
not, the Russian would know where they were pointing at.
Just how fucking stupid does Chibnall think the audience are? There's
isn't enough power on the planet to send a detectable radio signal to
Alpha Centuri let alone to Skaro, and putting it though an ordinary
communications dish, fuck the dish, putting it though an ordinary power
transmission line will burn it out completely.
I assume a modification to transmit an FTL signal.
No dishes were modified. No power lines were modified either, and you
would have needed ones several meters in radius to carry the amount of
current required, and on top of the the transformers would not have
coped, not would the rectifiers, and nor would the klystrons. The most
power a klystron on a transmitter can handle is about 200 kW and that
doesn't get you very far. Nothing at GCHQ would have been equipped with
such a thing.
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Post by The True Doctor
Besides which the dishes aren't even focused closely enough to
concentrate on something the size of a planet--and like the Dalek knows
it's exact position in its orbit, when it doesn't even have a clue what
century it's in--so most of the energy will not even reach it, and then
only after many years of travel.
Dalek tapped into Internet & Lyn's brain, so would have learned what year it was & how long it had been buried.
So the Dalek had an Internet router built into its brain did it? One
compatible with 21st century Internet protocols?

How could it connect its brain with the brain of a human anyway, when
the Daleks had never seen humans before?
Post by Timothy Bruening
Post by The True Doctor
Then ensures 10 more minutes of totally irrelevant mind numbing soap
opera which has no place at all in Doctor Who, about some woman's kids
complaining about having no internet. But how come the lights are still on?
I have lost the Internet without losing the lights!
The Dalek was diverting all the power to the radio dishes. What the fuck
did the Internet have to do with that?
Post by Timothy Bruening
Post by The True Doctor
After hearing about how the Dalek was originally destroyed--like this
was actually recorded as history, then how come no one else have even
heard of it?
Top secret records kept by Order of the Custodians.
Why didn't they play any part in the story except at the start? What was
the point in having them if Chibnall was going to pad the entire episode
out with 50 minutes of irrelevant mind numbing soap opera? The fool
doesn't have a clue how to write a coherent story.
Post by Timothy Bruening
--Whittaker emerges from the TARDIS under protection of a
Post by The True Doctor
force field and using her magic dildo destroys the reconstructed Dalek
casing by melting it.
But the Dalek creature survives and attaches itself to Ryan's Dad in the
TARDIS. So taking off to take it to the fleet--like how the fuck does
she know where it even is?
We saw supernova destroyed system instead of a fleet. I bet that she LIED to the Dalek about where she was taking it! She went to a supernova instead of the fleet!
She or the Dalek still had to know where the fleet was? Why would the
Dalek trust her to take it to a fleet if it didn't even know where it
was? Where was it trying to send its signal too? Didn't it think she
might blow the TARDIS up regardless?
Post by Timothy Bruening
--she creates a vacuum tunnel around the Dalek
Post by The True Doctor
and Ryan's dad, as if by magic, to suck the Dalek creature off Ryan's
dad's back, who Ryan manages to save before he is sucked out of the TARDIS.
I bet that Ryan helped knock off the Dalek!
He should have knocked of Whittaker. The Dalek was a much better actor
than she is and it didn't need to bully and threaten every person it met
like she does, in order to try to show its authority.
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Dalek Lyn hacks into MDZ & the Black Archives. Why doesn't that sound an alarm at wherever Kate Stewart is, & thus cause her to reactivate UNIT?
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The organic Dalek component is riding Lyn's back. Holy Puppet Masters by Robert Heinlein!
Dalek Lyn hacks into MDZ & the Black Archives. Why doesn't that sound
an alarm at wherever Kate Stewart is, & thus cause her to reactivate
UNIT?
IT is called a Kaled mutant.
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2019-01-03 11:17:33 UTC
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The organic Dalek component is riding Lyn's back. Holy Puppet
Masters by Robert Heinlein!
Dalek Lyn hacks into MDZ & the Black Archives. Why doesn't that
sound an alarm at wherever Kate Stewart is, & thus cause her to
reactivate UNIT?
IT is called a Kaled mutant.
Is it really, idiot?? I would never have picked that as the answer to
Tim's question, but YOU must know, idiot!
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Timothy Bruening
2019-01-02 05:48:22 UTC
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Besides which the dishes aren't even focused closely enough to
concentrate on something the size of a planet--and like the Dalek knows
it's exact position in its orbit, when it doesn't even have a clue what
century it's in--so most of the energy will not even reach it, and then
only after many years of travel.
Dalek tapped into Internet & Lyn's brain, so would have learned what year it was & how long it had been buried.
So the Dalek had an Internet router built into its brain did it? One
compatible with 21st century Internet protocols?
Lyn's body did the actual key punching. The Dalek merely sent her fingers the appropriate orders!
Post by The True Doctor
How could it connect its brain with the brain of a human anyway, when
the Daleks had never seen humans before?
The Kaleds were humanoids!
Post by The True Doctor
Post by Timothy Bruening
Post by The True Doctor
After hearing about how the Dalek was originally destroyed--like this
was actually recorded as history, then how come no one else have even
heard of it?
Top secret records kept by Order of the Custodians.
Why didn't they play any part in the story except at the start? What was
the point in having them if Chibnall was going to pad the entire episode
out with 50 minutes of irrelevant mind numbing soap opera? The fool
doesn't have a clue how to write a coherent story.
I think that the Order of the Custodians funded the dig that uncovered the Dalek piece in Sheffield!
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Post by Timothy Bruening
--she creates a vacuum tunnel around the Dalek
Post by The True Doctor
and Ryan's dad, as if by magic, to suck the Dalek creature off Ryan's
dad's back, who Ryan manages to save before he is sucked out of the TARDIS.
I bet that Ryan helped knock off the Dalek!
He should have knocked of Whittaker. The Dalek was a much better actor
than she is and it didn't need to bully and threaten every person it met
like she does, in order to try to show its authority.
The Dalek seemed bullyingly & threateningly enough for me!
The True Doctor
2019-01-02 12:43:11 UTC
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Besides which the dishes aren't even focused closely enough to
concentrate on something the size of a planet--and like the Dalek knows
it's exact position in its orbit, when it doesn't even have a clue what
century it's in--so most of the energy will not even reach it, and then
only after many years of travel.
Dalek tapped into Internet & Lyn's brain, so would have learned what year it was & how long it had been buried.
So the Dalek had an Internet router built into its brain did it? One
compatible with 21st century Internet protocols?
Lyn's body did the actual key punching. The Dalek merely sent her fingers the appropriate orders!
Even if Lyn could read at 70,000 words (or a book) per minute, it would
have taken her and the Dalek over 3000 years to read the entire contents
of the British Library let alone the Internet
Post by Timothy Bruening
Post by The True Doctor
How could it connect its brain with the brain of a human anyway, when
the Daleks had never seen humans before?
The Kaleds were humanoids!
What do you think the 'oid' in humanoid means? Why should a Kaled brain
be write like a human one? The Dalek isn't even Kaled anymore.
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Post by The True Doctor
Post by Timothy Bruening
Post by The True Doctor
After hearing about how the Dalek was originally destroyed--like this
was actually recorded as history, then how come no one else have even
heard of it?
Top secret records kept by Order of the Custodians.
Why didn't they play any part in the story except at the start? What was
the point in having them if Chibnall was going to pad the entire episode
out with 50 minutes of irrelevant mind numbing soap opera? The fool
doesn't have a clue how to write a coherent story.
I think that the Order of the Custodians funded the dig that uncovered the Dalek piece in Sheffield!
Where was that mentioned? Why would it let a clueless archaeologist
endanger herself and humanity by carrying it out instead of them?
Post by Timothy Bruening
Post by The True Doctor
Post by Timothy Bruening
--she creates a vacuum tunnel around the Dalek
Post by The True Doctor
and Ryan's dad, as if by magic, to suck the Dalek creature off Ryan's
dad's back, who Ryan manages to save before he is sucked out of the TARDIS.
I bet that Ryan helped knock off the Dalek!
He should have knocked of Whittaker. The Dalek was a much better actor
than she is and it didn't need to bully and threaten every person it met
like she does, in order to try to show its authority.
The Dalek seemed bullyingly & threateningly enough for me!
Whittaker was a far bigger bully than the Dalek.
The Doctor
2019-01-02 14:52:25 UTC
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Besides which the dishes aren't even focused closely enough to
concentrate on something the size of a planet--and like the Dalek knows
it's exact position in its orbit, when it doesn't even have a clue what
century it's in--so most of the energy will not even reach it, and then
only after many years of travel.
Dalek tapped into Internet & Lyn's brain, so would have learned what
year it was & how long it had been buried.
Post by Timothy Bruening
Post by The True Doctor
So the Dalek had an Internet router built into its brain did it? One
compatible with 21st century Internet protocols?
Lyn's body did the actual key punching. The Dalek merely sent her
fingers the appropriate orders!
Even if Lyn could read at 70,000 words (or a book) per minute, it would
have taken her and the Dalek over 3000 years to read the entire contents
of the British Library let alone the Internet
Post by Timothy Bruening
Post by The True Doctor
How could it connect its brain with the brain of a human anyway, when
the Daleks had never seen humans before?
The Kaleds were humanoids!
What do you think the 'oid' in humanoid means? Why should a Kaled brain
be write like a human one? The Dalek isn't even Kaled anymore.
Post by Timothy Bruening
Post by The True Doctor
Post by Timothy Bruening
Post by The True Doctor
After hearing about how the Dalek was originally destroyed--like this
was actually recorded as history, then how come no one else have even
heard of it?
Top secret records kept by Order of the Custodians.
Why didn't they play any part in the story except at the start? What was
the point in having them if Chibnall was going to pad the entire episode
out with 50 minutes of irrelevant mind numbing soap opera? The fool
doesn't have a clue how to write a coherent story.
I think that the Order of the Custodians funded the dig that uncovered
the Dalek piece in Sheffield!
Where was that mentioned? Why would it let a clueless archaeologist
endanger herself and humanity by carrying it out instead of them?
Exactly!
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Post by Timothy Bruening
Post by The True Doctor
Post by Timothy Bruening
--she creates a vacuum tunnel around the Dalek
Post by The True Doctor
and Ryan's dad, as if by magic, to suck the Dalek creature off Ryan's
dad's back, who Ryan manages to save before he is sucked out of the TARDIS.
I bet that Ryan helped knock off the Dalek!
He should have knocked of Whittaker. The Dalek was a much better actor
than she is and it didn't need to bully and threaten every person it met
like she does, in order to try to show its authority.
The Dalek seemed bullyingly & threateningly enough for me!
Whittaker was a far bigger bully than the Dalek.
Chibs/Whitts sucks!
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2019-01-03 11:32:40 UTC
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Chibs/Whitts sucks!
Oww!! Getting pretty intimate, there, idiot!!
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2019-01-03 13:11:30 UTC
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Chibs/Whitts sucks!
Oww!! Getting pretty intimate, there, idiot!!
Touche!
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The Doctor
2019-01-02 14:15:43 UTC
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Besides which the dishes aren't even focused closely enough to
concentrate on something the size of a planet--and like the Dalek knows
it's exact position in its orbit, when it doesn't even have a clue what
century it's in--so most of the energy will not even reach it, and then
only after many years of travel.
Dalek tapped into Internet & Lyn's brain, so would have learned what
year it was & how long it had been buried.
Post by The True Doctor
So the Dalek had an Internet router built into its brain did it? One
compatible with 21st century Internet protocols?
Lyn's body did the actual key punching. The Dalek merely sent her
fingers the appropriate orders!
Mind fight.
Post by Timothy Bruening
Post by The True Doctor
How could it connect its brain with the brain of a human anyway, when
the Daleks had never seen humans before?
The Kaleds were humanoids!
As proven in Genesis of the Daleks.
Post by Timothy Bruening
Post by The True Doctor
Post by Timothy Bruening
Post by The True Doctor
After hearing about how the Dalek was originally destroyed--like this
was actually recorded as history, then how come no one else have even
heard of it?
Top secret records kept by Order of the Custodians.
Why didn't they play any part in the story except at the start? What was
the point in having them if Chibnall was going to pad the entire episode
out with 50 minutes of irrelevant mind numbing soap opera? The fool
doesn't have a clue how to write a coherent story.
I think that the Order of the Custodians funded the dig that uncovered
the Dalek piece in Sheffield!
Do we know? Maybe USheff?
Post by Timothy Bruening
Post by The True Doctor
Post by Timothy Bruening
--she creates a vacuum tunnel around the Dalek
Post by The True Doctor
and Ryan's dad, as if by magic, to suck the Dalek creature off Ryan's
dad's back, who Ryan manages to save before he is sucked out of the TARDIS.
I bet that Ryan helped knock off the Dalek!
He should have knocked of Whittaker. The Dalek was a much better actor
than she is and it didn't need to bully and threaten every person it met
like she does, in order to try to show its authority.
The Dalek seemed bullyingly & threateningly enough for me!
Smae old.
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2019-01-02 06:11:52 UTC
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The New Year's shit fest starts in 9th century England where Chibnall
shits over the face of history.
The Anglo-Saxons have managed to defeat a Dalek by melting its casing
after placing or trapping it on a wooden pyre. How a wooden pyre can
melt something far stronger than iron which requires a temperature 1510
degrees C to melt, which can only be produced by a blast furnace, is
never explained. Yet the Dalek metal case is seen completely melting,
and like the Dalek kindly decides to stay in place without firing while
they point their useless swords at it long enough for this to happen.
What was the casing made of, lead?
I thought I saw a net over the Dalek in the book about that incident.
Why didn't it blast the net away?
Post by Timothy Bruening
Fanwank: Ashildr came to the battle and brought electric eels, which were used to generate the necessary heat via electricity.
Post by The True Doctor
Afterwards the Dalek organism is split into three pieces and sent to all
four corners of the earth. Hum... All three corners of the earth. Um...
not quite corners. One piece is sent to Sheffield and the other two are
sent to Siberia and Anuta Island. These places are not even equidistant.
Apparently at this time King Alfred or his court have diplomatic
relations with Siberia and sub-Saharan Africa, since one of the people
entrusted with this task looks Mongolian and the other is obviously from
sub-Saharan Africa.
Prologue did hint that forces from widely separated parts of the world.
Not only that but these people have also managed to
Post by The True Doctor
discover Anuta Island in the middle of the South Pacific, which after
this time no one ever hears of again until 1791.
Ashildr's Vikings probably discovered Anuta. After all, they got to South America & brought back electric eels!
The Vikings never got to the Pacific where Anuta is situated.
We didn't think the Vikings had gotten to South America either until electric eels turned up in a Viking village in "The Girl Who Died"!
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The woman then takes the police car and a police jacket and drives to a
farm, where she kills the farmer the same way, and reassembles the Dalek
casing from parts of the original case that came from nowhere.
Maybe they had been found by archaeologists previously!
When? Why wasn't this shown?
I gather that the Order of the Custodians had set up MDZ to find & buy up alien tech, which included a Dalek gun and presumably the pieces of Dalek casing. I think that the OotC has been funding projects to find the pieces of Dalek in order to kill it totally.
Post by The True Doctor
Post by Timothy Bruening
Post by The True Doctor
So, Whittaker finally for once, decides to contact UNIT for once, but
UNIT has been disbanded in the UK because of Brexit. FOR FUCKS BLOODY
SAKE! Why does Chibnall think he's doing Little Britain?
Trump might be to blame as well.
Why? UNIT is part of the UN so why would Britain which is a permanent
member of the security council be blocked from using it? It's Chibnall
shitting on the viewers again with his sick agenda.
My impression was that UNIT's funding had been cut do to funding disputes with the UK's partners, which would include the Trump led USA! Thus it couldn't function! I don't recall the word "Brexit" being said.
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Post by Timothy Bruening
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Then, using her magic powers, Whittaker manages to work out the location
of the Dalek organism along with the woman archeologist from her mobile
phone signal. But the Dalek organism doesn't have a mobile phone so how
can she see that it's several meters away from the woman?
TARDIS would surely have ability to detect Daleks if they are near a person it is tracking! After all, the Doctor is this universe's foremost Dalek expert!
It never had such an ability before. If it can detect a Dalek then why
can't it materialize over it and fling it into the eye of harmony?
Recent upgrade? Dalek might have to be really close.
The Doctor
2019-01-02 14:16:47 UTC
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The New Year's shit fest starts in 9th century England where Chibnall
shits over the face of history.
The Anglo-Saxons have managed to defeat a Dalek by melting its casing
after placing or trapping it on a wooden pyre. How a wooden pyre can
melt something far stronger than iron which requires a temperature 1510
degrees C to melt, which can only be produced by a blast furnace, is
never explained. Yet the Dalek metal case is seen completely melting,
and like the Dalek kindly decides to stay in place without firing while
they point their useless swords at it long enough for this to happen.
What was the casing made of, lead?
I thought I saw a net over the Dalek in the book about that incident.
Why didn't it blast the net away?
Post by Timothy Bruening
Fanwank: Ashildr came to the battle and brought electric eels, which
were used to generate the necessary heat via electricity.
Post by The True Doctor
Post by Timothy Bruening
Post by The True Doctor
Afterwards the Dalek organism is split into three pieces and sent to all
four corners of the earth. Hum... All three corners of the earth. Um...
not quite corners. One piece is sent to Sheffield and the other two are
sent to Siberia and Anuta Island. These places are not even equidistant.
Apparently at this time King Alfred or his court have diplomatic
relations with Siberia and sub-Saharan Africa, since one of the people
entrusted with this task looks Mongolian and the other is obviously from
sub-Saharan Africa.
Prologue did hint that forces from widely separated parts of the world.
Not only that but these people have also managed to
Post by The True Doctor
discover Anuta Island in the middle of the South Pacific, which after
this time no one ever hears of again until 1791.
Ashildr's Vikings probably discovered Anuta. After all, they got to
South America & brought back electric eels!
Post by The True Doctor
The Vikings never got to the Pacific where Anuta is situated.
We didn't think the Vikings had gotten to South America either until
electric eels turned up in a Viking village in "The Girl Who Died"!
Debatable.
Post by Timothy Bruening
Post by The True Doctor
Post by Timothy Bruening
Post by The True Doctor
The woman then takes the police car and a police jacket and drives to a
farm, where she kills the farmer the same way, and reassembles the Dalek
casing from parts of the original case that came from nowhere.
Maybe they had been found by archaeologists previously!
When? Why wasn't this shown?
I gather that the Order of the Custodians had set up MDZ to find & buy
up alien tech, which included a Dalek gun and presumably the pieces of
Dalek casing. I think that the OotC has been funding projects to find
the pieces of Dalek in order to kill it totally.
Post by The True Doctor
Post by Timothy Bruening
Post by The True Doctor
So, Whittaker finally for once, decides to contact UNIT for once, but
UNIT has been disbanded in the UK because of Brexit. FOR FUCKS BLOODY
SAKE! Why does Chibnall think he's doing Little Britain?
Trump might be to blame as well.
Why? UNIT is part of the UN so why would Britain which is a permanent
member of the security council be blocked from using it? It's Chibnall
shitting on the viewers again with his sick agenda.
My impression was that UNIT's funding had been cut do to funding
disputes with the UK's partners, which would include the Trump led USA!
Thus it couldn't function! I don't recall the word "Brexit" being said.
This make no sense. UNIT is a UN commitment.
Post by Timothy Bruening
Post by The True Doctor
Post by Timothy Bruening
Post by The True Doctor
Then, using her magic powers, Whittaker manages to work out the location
of the Dalek organism along with the woman archeologist from her mobile
phone signal. But the Dalek organism doesn't have a mobile phone so how
can she see that it's several meters away from the woman?
TARDIS would surely have ability to detect Daleks if they are near a
person it is tracking! After all, the Doctor is this universe's
foremost Dalek expert!
Post by The True Doctor
It never had such an ability before. If it can detect a Dalek then why
can't it materialize over it and fling it into the eye of harmony?
Recent upgrade? Dalek might have to be really close.
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2019-01-02 08:21:01 UTC
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Trump might be to blame as well.
Why? UNIT is part of the UN so why would Britain which is a permanent
member of the security council be blocked from using it?
UNIT hasn't been part of the UN since 2005 when the real-life UN didn't
like being associated with a fictional organisation.
Post by The True Doctor
It's Chibnall shitting on the viewers again with his sick agenda.
Please keep your faeces fetish fantasies to yourself.
Post by The True Doctor
Post by Timothy Bruening
TARDIS would surely have ability to detect Daleks if they are near
a person it is tracking! After all, the Doctor is this universe's
foremost Dalek expert!
It never had such an ability before. If it can detect a Dalek then why
can't it materialize over it and fling it into the eye of harmony?
At first, because this would mean killing the woman too.

Later, when the Dalek senses the Doctor scanning it, it jams
the signal. This was explained in the episode.
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2019-01-02 12:32:36 UTC
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Post by Timothy Bruening
Trump might be to blame as well.
Why? UNIT is part of the UN so why would Britain which is a permanent
member of the security council be blocked from using it?
UNIT hasn't been part of the UN since 2005 when the real-life UN didn't
like being associated with a fictional organisation.
It was part of the UN when Moffat made the Doctor World President.
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It's Chibnall shitting on the viewers again with his sick agenda.
Please keep your faeces fetish fantasies to yourself.
It's Chibnall's faeces fetish. He's the one who lives shit out his
disgusting agenda over everyone's faces.
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Post by The True Doctor
Post by Timothy Bruening
TARDIS would surely have ability to detect Daleks if they are near
a person it is tracking! After all, the Doctor is this universe's
foremost Dalek expert!
It never had such an ability before. If it can detect a Dalek then why
can't it materialize over it and fling it into the eye of harmony?
At first, because this would mean killing the woman too.
Why? It's been shown that the TARDIS can precisely select what it
materializes around and the Dalek organism was several meters away from
the woman according to the dots.
Post by solar penguin
Later, when the Dalek senses the Doctor scanning it, it jams
the signal. This was explained in the episode.
What is it jamming the signal with? Its slime? What's it even detecting
it with. It's Chibnall shitting in viewers faces once again.
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Post by Timothy Bruening
Trump might be to blame as well.
Why? UNIT is part of the UN so why would Britain which is a permanent
member of the security council be blocked from using it?
UNIT hasn't been part of the UN since 2005 when the real-life UN didn't
like being associated with a fictional organisation.
It was part of the UN when Moffat made the Doctor World President.
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Post by The True Doctor
It's Chibnall shitting on the viewers again with his sick agenda.
Please keep your faeces fetish fantasies to yourself.
It's Chibnall's faeces fetish. He's the one who lives shit out his
disgusting agenda over everyone's faces.
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Post by The True Doctor
Post by Timothy Bruening
TARDIS would surely have ability to detect Daleks if they are near
a person it is tracking! After all, the Doctor is this universe's
foremost Dalek expert!
It never had such an ability before. If it can detect a Dalek then why
can't it materialize over it and fling it into the eye of harmony?
At first, because this would mean killing the woman too.
Why? It's been shown that the TARDIS can precisely select what it
materializes around and the Dalek organism was several meters away from
the woman according to the dots.
Post by solar penguin
Later, when the Dalek senses the Doctor scanning it, it jams
the signal. This was explained in the episode.
What is it jamming the signal with? Its slime? What's it even detecting
it with. It's Chibnall shitting in viewers faces once again.
Bringing the Internet down with it.
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What is it jamming the signal with? Its slime? What's it even detecting
it with. It's Chibnall shitting in viewers faces once again.
Bringing the Internet down with it.
Oh!! No!! None of US can use the Internet!! How will we communicate in
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What is it jamming the signal with? Its slime? What's it even detecting
it with. It's Chibnall shitting in viewers faces once again.
Bringing the Internet down with it.
Oh!! No!! None of US can use the Internet!! How will we communicate in
this Newsgroup??
LOL!
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Post by Timothy Bruening
Trump might be to blame as well.
Why? UNIT is part of the UN so why would Britain which is a permanent
member of the security council be blocked from using it?
UNIT hasn't been part of the UN since 2005 when the real-life UN didn't
like being associated with a fictional organisation.
Then why the UN part?
Post by solar penguin
Post by The True Doctor
It's Chibnall shitting on the viewers again with his sick agenda.
Please keep your faeces fetish fantasies to yourself.
Sorry we have the numbers to prove that Chibnall and Whittaker
are very unpopular with the masses.
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Post by The True Doctor
Post by Timothy Bruening
TARDIS would surely have ability to detect Daleks if they are near
a person it is tracking! After all, the Doctor is this universe's
foremost Dalek expert!
It never had such an ability before. If it can detect a Dalek then why
can't it materialize over it and fling it into the eye of harmony?
At first, because this would mean killing the woman too.
Later, when the Dalek senses the Doctor scanning it, it jams
the signal. This was explained in the episode.
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The New Year's shit fest starts in 9th century England where Chibnall
shits over the face of history.
The Anglo-Saxons have managed to defeat a Dalek by melting its casing
after placing or trapping it on a wooden pyre. How a wooden pyre can
melt something far stronger than iron which requires a temperature 1510
degrees C to melt, which can only be produced by a blast furnace, is
never explained. Yet the Dalek metal case is seen completely melting,
and like the Dalek kindly decides to stay in place without firing while
they point their useless swords at it long enough for this to happen.
What was the casing made of, lead?
I thought I saw a net over the Dalek in the book about that incident.
Why didn't it blast the net away?
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Fanwank: Ashildr came to the battle and brought electric eels, which
were used to generate the necessary heat via electricity.
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Afterwards the Dalek organism is split into three pieces and sent to all
four corners of the earth. Hum... All three corners of the earth. Um...
not quite corners. One piece is sent to Sheffield and the other two are
sent to Siberia and Anuta Island. These places are not even equidistant.
Apparently at this time King Alfred or his court have diplomatic
relations with Siberia and sub-Saharan Africa, since one of the people
entrusted with this task looks Mongolian and the other is obviously from
sub-Saharan Africa.
Prologue did hint that forces from widely separated parts of the world.
Not only that but these people have also managed to
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discover Anuta Island in the middle of the South Pacific, which after
this time no one ever hears of again until 1791.
Ashildr's Vikings probably discovered Anuta. After all, they got to
South America & brought back electric eels!
The Vikings never got to the Pacific where Anuta is situated.
Neither did any Europeans!
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The Dalek controlled archaeologist drives her car down a motorway at
high speed and is stopped by the police. She kills the police officers
with a Dalek gun.
She had mentioned Daleks to one cop, who didn't recognize that term!
Why didn't that cop remember the recent Dalek attacks of Doomsday & The
Stolen Earth/Journey's End?
Exactly. Or the giant spiders that invaded Sheffield, or the corpse
monks, or the moon turning into a soup dragon. Why didn't Yaz use her
police ID to get the cops to help?
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If the gun is still working 1100 years later, then why didn't the Dalek
defend itself with it before?
The woman then takes the police car and a police jacket and drives to a
farm, where she kills the farmer the same way, and reassembles the Dalek
casing from parts of the original case that came from nowhere.
Maybe they had been found by archaeologists previously!
When? Why wasn't this shown?
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So, Whittaker finally for once, decides to contact UNIT for once, but
UNIT has been disbanded in the UK because of Brexit. FOR FUCKS BLOODY
SAKE! Why does Chibnall think he's doing Little Britain?
Trump might be to blame as well.
Why? UNIT is part of the UN so why would Britain which is a permanent
member of the security council be blocked from using it? It's Chibnall
shitting on the viewers again with his sick agenda.
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Then, using her magic powers, Whittaker manages to work out the location
of the Dalek organism along with the woman archeologist from her mobile
phone signal. But the Dalek organism doesn't have a mobile phone so how
can she see that it's several meters away from the woman?
TARDIS would surely have ability to detect Daleks if they are near a
person it is tracking! After all, the Doctor is this universe's
foremost Dalek expert!
It never had such an ability before. If it can detect a Dalek then why
can't it materialize over it and fling it into the eye of harmony?
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The TARDIS leaves with everyone including Ryan's dad and arrives at GCHQ
which the Dalek has decided will enable it to send a signal to the Dalek
fleet by diverting all of earth's power to the communications dishes and
pointing them at the sky, and bringing down the internet in the process.
GHCQ hasn't used visible radio dishes for the past 40 fucking years. All
of it's communications arrays are under covers, because if they were
not, the Russian would know where they were pointing at.
Just how fucking stupid does Chibnall think the audience are? There's
isn't enough power on the planet to send a detectable radio signal to
Alpha Centuri let alone to Skaro, and putting it though an ordinary
communications dish, fuck the dish, putting it though an ordinary power
transmission line will burn it out completely.
I assume a modification to transmit an FTL signal.
No dishes were modified. No power lines were modified either, and you
would have needed ones several meters in radius to carry the amount of
current required, and on top of the the transformers would not have
coped, not would the rectifiers, and nor would the klystrons. The most
power a klystron on a transmitter can handle is about 200 kW and that
doesn't get you very far. Nothing at GCHQ would have been equipped with
such a thing.
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Besides which the dishes aren't even focused closely enough to
concentrate on something the size of a planet--and like the Dalek knows
it's exact position in its orbit, when it doesn't even have a clue what
century it's in--so most of the energy will not even reach it, and then
only after many years of travel.
Dalek tapped into Internet & Lyn's brain, so would have learned what
year it was & how long it had been buried.
So the Dalek had an Internet router built into its brain did it? One
compatible with 21st century Internet protocols?
How could it connect its brain with the brain of a human anyway, when
the Daleks had never seen humans before?
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Then ensures 10 more minutes of totally irrelevant mind numbing soap
opera which has no place at all in Doctor Who, about some woman's kids
complaining about having no internet. But how come the lights are still on?
I have lost the Internet without losing the lights!
The Dalek was diverting all the power to the radio dishes. What the fuck
did the Internet have to do with that?
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After hearing about how the Dalek was originally destroyed--like this
was actually recorded as history, then how come no one else have even
heard of it?
Top secret records kept by Order of the Custodians.
Why didn't they play any part in the story except at the start? What was
the point in having them if Chibnall was going to pad the entire episode
out with 50 minutes of irrelevant mind numbing soap opera? The fool
doesn't have a clue how to write a coherent story.
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--Whittaker emerges from the TARDIS under protection of a
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force field and using her magic dildo destroys the reconstructed Dalek
casing by melting it.
But the Dalek creature survives and attaches itself to Ryan's Dad in the
TARDIS. So taking off to take it to the fleet--like how the fuck does
she know where it even is?
We saw supernova destroyed system instead of a fleet. I bet that she
LIED to the Dalek about where she was taking it! She went to a
supernova instead of the fleet!
She or the Dalek still had to know where the fleet was? Why would the
Dalek trust her to take it to a fleet if it didn't even know where it
was? Where was it trying to send its signal too? Didn't it think she
might blow the TARDIS up regardless?
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--she creates a vacuum tunnel around the Dalek
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and Ryan's dad, as if by magic, to suck the Dalek creature off Ryan's
dad's back, who Ryan manages to save before he is sucked out of the TARDIS.
I bet that Ryan helped knock off the Dalek!
He should have knocked of Whittaker. The Dalek was a much better actor
than she is and it didn't need to bully and threaten every person it met
like she does, in order to try to show its authority.
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2019-01-02 22:54:41 UTC
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He should have knocked of Whittaker. The Dalek was a much better actor
than she is and it didn't need to bully and threaten every person it met
like she does, in order to try to show its authority.
Did anyone tell the Dalek that? Since in the event it did bully and threaten every person it met in order to try and show its authority. Shame to see all that effort was unnecessary.
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2019-01-03 16:17:24 UTC
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He should have knocked of Whittaker. The Dalek was a much better actor
than she is and it didn't need to bully and threaten every person it met
like she does, in order to try to show its authority.
Did anyone tell the Dalek that? Since in the event it did bully and threaten every person it met in order to try and show its authority. Shame to see all that effort was unnecessary.
The Dalek didn't make idle threats as a weakling bully would like
Whittaker, it went and did things like exterminating people from the
start. Whittaker just looked like a coward just like all bullies are.
The Doctor
2019-01-04 00:02:59 UTC
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He should have knocked of Whittaker. The Dalek was a much better actor
than she is and it didn't need to bully and threaten every person it met
like she does, in order to try to show its authority.
Did anyone tell the Dalek that? Since in the event it did bully and
threaten every person it met in order to try and show its authority.
Shame to see all that effort was unnecessary.
The Dalek didn't make idle threats as a weakling bully would like
Whittaker, it went and did things like exterminating people from the
start. Whittaker just looked like a coward just like all bullies are.
Good point.
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solar penguin
2019-01-02 08:13:39 UTC
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The Dalek controlled archaeologist drives her car down a motorway at
high speed and is stopped by the police. She kills the police officers
with a Dalek gun.
She had mentioned Daleks to one cop, who didn't recognize that term!
Why didn't that cop remember the recent Dalek attacks of Doomsday & The
Stolen Earth/Journey's End?
Those events were swallowed by Amy's Crack and never happened.
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So, Whittaker finally for once, decides to contact UNIT for once, but
UNIT has been disbanded in the UK because of Brexit. FOR FUCKS BLOODY
SAKE! Why does Chibnall think he's doing Little Britain?
Trump might be to blame as well.
The Doctor (the President of the world) insists that something is vital
for security, but can't get it because government can't agree funding.

Meanwhile, the President of the USA insists his border wall is vital
for security, but can't get it because government can't agree funding.

It's a pro-Trump allegory! Well, at least Aggy can't complain the
programme is anti-Trump any more!
The True Doctor
2019-01-02 12:27:29 UTC
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On Wednesday, 2 January 2019 04:28:53 UTC, Tim typed...
Post by Timothy Bruening
Post by The True Doctor
The Dalek controlled archaeologist drives her car down a motorway at
high speed and is stopped by the police. She kills the police officers
with a Dalek gun.
She had mentioned Daleks to one cop, who didn't recognize that term!
Why didn't that cop remember the recent Dalek attacks of Doomsday & The
Stolen Earth/Journey's End?
Those events were swallowed by Amy's Crack and never happened.
Where was that ever mentioned?
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Post by The True Doctor
So, Whittaker finally for once, decides to contact UNIT for once, but
UNIT has been disbanded in the UK because of Brexit. FOR FUCKS BLOODY
SAKE! Why does Chibnall think he's doing Little Britain?
Trump might be to blame as well.
The Doctor (the President of the world) insists that something is vital
for security, but can't get it because government can't agree funding.
Meanwhile, the President of the USA insists his border wall is vital
for security, but can't get it because government can't agree funding.
It's a pro-Trump allegory! Well, at least Aggy can't complain the
programme is anti-Trump any more!
It's a reference to Britain being frozen out of EU security and
intelligence mechanisms because of Brexit.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1053555/Brexit-news-UK-EU-future-relationship-Theresa-May-security-defence-Galileo-latest
The Doctor
2019-01-02 14:51:30 UTC
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On Wednesday, 2 January 2019 04:28:53 UTC, Tim typed...
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Post by The True Doctor
The Dalek controlled archaeologist drives her car down a motorway at
high speed and is stopped by the police. She kills the police officers
with a Dalek gun.
She had mentioned Daleks to one cop, who didn't recognize that term!
Why didn't that cop remember the recent Dalek attacks of Doomsday & The
Stolen Earth/Journey's End?
Those events were swallowed by Amy's Crack and never happened.
Where was that ever mentioned?
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Post by The True Doctor
So, Whittaker finally for once, decides to contact UNIT for once, but
UNIT has been disbanded in the UK because of Brexit. FOR FUCKS BLOODY
SAKE! Why does Chibnall think he's doing Little Britain?
Trump might be to blame as well.
The Doctor (the President of the world) insists that something is vital
for security, but can't get it because government can't agree funding.
Meanwhile, the President of the USA insists his border wall is vital
for security, but can't get it because government can't agree funding.
It's a pro-Trump allegory! Well, at least Aggy can't complain the
programme is anti-Trump any more!
It's a reference to Britain being frozen out of EU security and
intelligence mechanisms because of Brexit.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1053555/Brexit-news-UK-EU-future-relationship-Theresa-May-security-defence-Galileo-latest
But UNIT is part of the UN not the EU.
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2019-01-02 14:27:03 UTC
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On Wednesday, 2 January 2019 04:28:53 UTC, Tim typed...
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The Dalek controlled archaeologist drives her car down a motorway at
high speed and is stopped by the police. She kills the police officers
with a Dalek gun.
She had mentioned Daleks to one cop, who didn't recognize that term!
Why didn't that cop remember the recent Dalek attacks of Doomsday & The
Stolen Earth/Journey's End?
Those events were swallowed by Amy's Crack and never happened.
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Post by The True Doctor
So, Whittaker finally for once, decides to contact UNIT for once, but
UNIT has been disbanded in the UK because of Brexit. FOR FUCKS BLOODY
SAKE! Why does Chibnall think he's doing Little Britain?
Trump might be to blame as well.
The Doctor (the President of the world) insists that something is vital
for security, but can't get it because government can't agree funding.
Only in an emergency under UN resolution.
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Meanwhile, the President of the USA insists his border wall is vital
for security, but can't get it because government can't agree funding.
It's a pro-Trump allegory! Well, at least Aggy can't complain the
programme is anti-Trump any more!
Still stupid.
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2019-01-03 12:33:32 UTC
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Meanwhile, the President of the USA insists his border wall is vital
for security, but can't get it because government can't agree funding.
Didn't Trump originally say he would force Mexico to pay for the Wall??
Is it now U.S. of A. will build the Wall (Making America Great Again)
and send Mexico the bill??
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2019-01-04 01:18:10 UTC
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Meanwhile, the President of the USA insists his border wall is vital
for security, but can't get it because government can't agree funding.
Didn't Trump originally say he would force Mexico to pay for the Wall??
Is it now U.S. of A. will build the Wall (Making America Great Again)
and send Mexico the bill??
Actually Melania has built a wall between her bedroom and his, and she's
charging it on iDJT's credit card.
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2019-01-04 18:24:58 UTC
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Meanwhile, the President of the USA insists his border wall is vital
for security, but can't get it because government can't agree funding.
Didn't Trump originally say he would force Mexico to pay for the Wall??
Is it now U.S. of A. will build the Wall (Making America Great Again)
and send Mexico the bill??
Actually Melania has built a wall between her bedroom and his, and she's
charging it on iDJT's credit card.
Please post link.
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2019-01-04 21:41:57 UTC
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Meanwhile, the President of the USA insists his border wall is vital
for security, but can't get it because government can't agree funding.
Didn't Trump originally say he would force Mexico to pay for the Wall??
Is it now U.S. of A. will build the Wall (Making America Great Again)
and send Mexico the bill??
Actually Melania has built a wall between her bedroom and his, and she's
charging it on iDJT's credit card.
Please post link.
URL!!
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2019-01-02 14:10:43 UTC
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The New Year's shit fest starts in 9th century England where Chibnall
shits over the face of history.
The Anglo-Saxons have managed to defeat a Dalek by melting its casing
after placing or trapping it on a wooden pyre. How a wooden pyre can
melt something far stronger than iron which requires a temperature 1510
degrees C to melt, which can only be produced by a blast furnace, is
never explained. Yet the Dalek metal case is seen completely melting,
and like the Dalek kindly decides to stay in place without firing while
they point their useless swords at it long enough for this to happen.
What was the casing made of, lead?
I thought I saw a net over the Dalek in the book about that incident.
Fanwank: Ashildr came to the battle and brought electric eels, which
were used to generate the necessary heat via electricity.
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Afterwards the Dalek organism is split into three pieces and sent to all
four corners of the earth. Hum... All three corners of the earth. Um...
not quite corners. One piece is sent to Sheffield and the other two are
sent to Siberia and Anuta Island. These places are not even equidistant.
Apparently at this time King Alfred or his court have diplomatic
relations with Siberia and sub-Saharan Africa, since one of the people
entrusted with this task looks Mongolian and the other is obviously from
sub-Saharan Africa.
Prologue did hint that forces from widely separated parts of the world.
Not only that but these people have also managed to
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discover Anuta Island in the middle of the South Pacific, which after
this time no one ever hears of again until 1791.
Ashildr's Vikings probably discovered Anuta. After all, they got to
South America & brought back electric eels!
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The Dalek controlled archaeologist drives her car down a motorway at
high speed and is stopped by the police. She kills the police officers
with a Dalek gun.
She had mentioned Daleks to one cop, who didn't recognize that term!
Why didn't that cop remember the recent Dalek attacks of Doomsday & The
Stolen Earth/Journey's End?
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If the gun is still working 1100 years later, then why didn't the Dalek
defend itself with it before?
The woman then takes the police car and a police jacket and drives to a
farm, where she kills the farmer the same way, and reassembles the Dalek
casing from parts of the original case that came from nowhere.
Maybe they had been found by archaeologists previously!
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So, Whittaker finally for once, decides to contact UNIT for once, but
UNIT has been disbanded in the UK because of Brexit. FOR FUCKS BLOODY
SAKE! Why does Chibnall think he's doing Little Britain?
Trump might be to blame as well.
No! Big nit: UNIT is a UN commitment.
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Then, using her magic powers, Whittaker manages to work out the location
of the Dalek organism along with the woman archeologist from her mobile
phone signal. But the Dalek organism doesn't have a mobile phone so how
can she see that it's several meters away from the woman?
TARDIS would surely have ability to detect Daleks if they are near a
person it is tracking! After all, the Doctor is this universe's
foremost Dalek expert!
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The TARDIS leaves with everyone including Ryan's dad and arrives at GCHQ
which the Dalek has decided will enable it to send a signal to the Dalek
fleet by diverting all of earth's power to the communications dishes and
pointing them at the sky, and bringing down the internet in the process.
GHCQ hasn't used visible radio dishes for the past 40 fucking years. All
of it's communications arrays are under covers, because if they were
not, the Russian would know where they were pointing at.
Just how fucking stupid does Chibnall think the audience are? There's
isn't enough power on the planet to send a detectable radio signal to
Alpha Centuri let alone to Skaro, and putting it though an ordinary
communications dish, fuck the dish, putting it though an ordinary power
transmission line will burn it out completely.
I assume a modification to transmit an FTL signal.
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Besides which the dishes aren't even focused closely enough to
concentrate on something the size of a planet--and like the Dalek knows
it's exact position in its orbit, when it doesn't even have a clue what
century it's in--so most of the energy will not even reach it, and then
only after many years of travel.
Dalek tapped into Internet & Lyn's brain, so would have learned what
year it was & how long it had been buried.
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Then ensures 10 more minutes of totally irrelevant mind numbing soap
opera which has no place at all in Doctor Who, about some woman's kids
complaining about having no internet. But how come the lights are still on?
I have lost the Internet without losing the lights!
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After hearing about how the Dalek was originally destroyed--like this
was actually recorded as history, then how come no one else have even
heard of it?
Top secret records kept by Order of the Custodians.
--Whittaker emerges from the TARDIS under protection of a
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force field and using her magic dildo destroys the reconstructed Dalek
casing by melting it.
But the Dalek creature survives and attaches itself to Ryan's Dad in the
TARDIS. So taking off to take it to the fleet--like how the fuck does
she know where it even is?
We saw supernova destroyed system instead of a fleet. I bet that she
LIED to the Dalek about where she was taking it! She went to a
supernova instead of the fleet!
--she creates a vacuum tunnel around the Dalek
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and Ryan's dad, as if by magic, to suck the Dalek creature off Ryan's
dad's back, who Ryan manages to save before he is sucked out of the TARDIS.
I bet that Ryan helped knock off the Dalek!
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So, Whittaker finally for once, decides to contact UNIT for once, but
UNIT has been disbanded in the UK because of Brexit. FOR FUCKS BLOODY
SAKE! Why does Chibnall think he's doing Little Britain?
I didn't hear the word "Brexit". I got the impression of funding disputes among UNIT's key financiers, thus shutting it down, like the current US government shutdown!

I bet that there was such a dispute in 2016, explaining UNIT's weird failure to investigate any of the weird happenings at Coal Hill Academy during the "Class" series!

With UNIT out of commission, is the Doctor still the President of Earth in an emergency?
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So, Whittaker finally for once, decides to contact UNIT for once, but
UNIT has been disbanded in the UK because of Brexit. FOR FUCKS BLOODY
SAKE! Why does Chibnall think he's doing Little Britain?
I didn't hear the word "Brexit". I got the impression of funding disputes among UNIT's key financiers, thus shutting it down, like the current US government shutdown!
It's a reference to Britain being frozen out of EU security and
intelligence mechanisms because of Brexit.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1053555/Brexit-news-UK-EU-future-relationship-Theresa-May-security-defence-Galileo-latest
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I bet that there was such a dispute in 2016, explaining UNIT's weird failure to investigate any of the weird happenings at Coal Hill Academy during the "Class" series!
With UNIT out of commission, is the Doctor still the President of Earth in an emergency?
Whittaker president of Earth? She'd be worse than Theresa May! The woman
is totally incapable of acting let alone running a country.

What's she going to do? "Now listen Junker, I'm going to give you two
choices, and listen carefully. Either you let us leave and continue
trading freely without any obligations, or else? Which one's it going to
be? ... Did't I warn him? Guy's you all heard me warn him didn't you?"
"Yes Jodie, yes, we all heard you warn him. You gave him two choices."
"Well then, he's made his choice, and it's not the right one. Lets give
it to him." <points her dildo at Jean Claude Junker> "I'm the Doctor.
Look it up. No one fucks around with me." <They all jump Jean Claude
Junker and start kicking and punching him to the floor, then hall him
into the TARDIS and expel him through the air-lock>

Chibnall and Whittaker are both totally deranged!
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2019-01-02 14:48:51 UTC
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So, Whittaker finally for once, decides to contact UNIT for once, but
UNIT has been disbanded in the UK because of Brexit. FOR FUCKS BLOODY
SAKE! Why does Chibnall think he's doing Little Britain?
I didn't hear the word "Brexit". I got the impression of funding
disputes among UNIT's key financiers, thus shutting it down, like the
current US government shutdown!
It's a reference to Britain being frozen out of EU security and
intelligence mechanisms because of Brexit.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1053555/Brexit-news-UK-EU-future-relationship-Theresa-May-security-defence-Galileo-latest
The EU is not the UN!
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I bet that there was such a dispute in 2016, explaining UNIT's weird
failure to investigate any of the weird happenings at Coal Hill Academy
during the "Class" series!
Post by Timothy Bruening
With UNIT out of commission, is the Doctor still the President of
Earth in an emergency?
Whittaker president of Earth? She'd be worse than Theresa May! The woman
is totally incapable of acting let alone running a country.
Exactly!
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What's she going to do? "Now listen Junker, I'm going to give you two
choices, and listen carefully. Either you let us leave and continue
trading freely without any obligations, or else? Which one's it going to
be? ... Did't I warn him? Guy's you all heard me warn him didn't you?"
"Yes Jodie, yes, we all heard you warn him. You gave him two choices."
"Well then, he's made his choice, and it's not the right one. Lets give
it to him." <points her dildo at Jean Claude Junker> "I'm the Doctor.
Look it up. No one fucks around with me." <They all jump Jean Claude
Junker and start kicking and punching him to the floor, then hall him
into the TARDIS and expel him through the air-lock>
Chibnall and Whittaker are both totally deranged!
And are destroying DW!
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2019-01-03 13:02:11 UTC
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What's she going to do? "Now listen Junker, I'm going to give you two
choices, and listen carefully. Either you let us leave and continue
trading freely without any obligations, or else? Which one's it going to
be? ... Did't I warn him? Guy's you all heard me warn him didn't you?"
"Yes Jodie, yes, we all heard you warn him. You gave him two choices."
"Well then, he's made his choice, and it's not the right one. Lets give
it to him." <points her dildo at Jean Claude Junker> "I'm the Doctor.
Look it up. No one *fucks* around with me." <They all jump Jean Claude
Junker and start kicking and punching him to the floor, then hall him
into the TARDIS and expel him through the air-lock>
Chibnall and Whittaker are both totally deranged!
And are destroying DW!
Hey, idiot, when you were intently reading Aggy's post, did you notice
he used a naughty word (the 'f' word)?? (Note: I've edited Aggy's post
to highlight the word for you!!)

If others use that word, you edit their post to something like 'f*k',
but you didn't with Aggy's post.

Why not, idiot??
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2019-01-03 13:49:44 UTC
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What's she going to do? "Now listen Junker, I'm going to give you two
choices, and listen carefully. Either you let us leave and continue
trading freely without any obligations, or else? Which one's it going to
be? ... Did't I warn him? Guy's you all heard me warn him didn't you?"
"Yes Jodie, yes, we all heard you warn him. You gave him two choices."
"Well then, he's made his choice, and it's not the right one. Lets give
it to him." <points her dildo at Jean Claude Junker> "I'm the Doctor.
Look it up. No one *fucks* around with me." <They all jump Jean Claude
Junker and start kicking and punching him to the floor, then hall him
into the TARDIS and expel him through the air-lock>
Chibnall and Whittaker are both totally deranged!
And are destroying DW!
Hey, idiot, when you were intently reading Aggy's post, did you notice
he used a naughty word (the 'f' word)?? (Note: I've edited Aggy's post
to highlight the word for you!!)
If others use that word, you edit their post to something like 'f*k',
but you didn't with Aggy's post.
Why not, idiot??
Too busy kissing Aggy's ass to actually read anything.
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So, Whittaker finally for once, decides to contact UNIT for once, but
UNIT has been disbanded in the UK because of Brexit. FOR FUCKS BLOODY
SAKE! Why does Chibnall think he's doing Little Britain?
I didn't hear the word "Brexit". I got the impression of funding
disputes among UNIT's key financiers, thus shutting it down, like the
current US government shutdown!
I bet that there was such a dispute in 2016, explaining UNIT's weird
failure to investigate any of the weird happenings at Coal Hill Academy
during the "Class" series!
With UNIT out of commission, is the Doctor still the President of Earth in an emergency?
So who cann make funding commitments to the UN?
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2019-01-02 14:37:05 UTC
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So, Whittaker finally for once, decides to contact UNIT for once, but
UNIT has been disbanded in the UK because of Brexit. FOR FUCKS BLOODY
SAKE! Why does Chibnall think he's doing Little Britain?
I didn't hear the word "Brexit". I got the impression of funding
disputes among UNIT's key financiers, thus shutting it down, like the
current US government shutdown!
I bet that there was such a dispute in 2016, explaining UNIT's weird
failure to investigate any of the weird happenings at Coal Hill Academy
during the "Class" series!
With UNIT out of commission, is the Doctor still the President of Earth in an emergency?
So who cann make funding commitments to the UN?
Trump can cut off US funding to UN by vetoing any bills that contain it. The UN would then have to cut UNIT's budget.
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2019-01-02 14:59:12 UTC
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So, Whittaker finally for once, decides to contact UNIT for once, but
UNIT has been disbanded in the UK because of Brexit. FOR FUCKS BLOODY
SAKE! Why does Chibnall think he's doing Little Britain?
I didn't hear the word "Brexit". I got the impression of funding
disputes among UNIT's key financiers, thus shutting it down, like the
current US government shutdown!
I bet that there was such a dispute in 2016, explaining UNIT's weird
failure to investigate any of the weird happenings at Coal Hill Academy
during the "Class" series!
With UNIT out of commission, is the Doctor still the President of Earth
in an emergency?
So who cann make funding commitments to the UN?
Trump can cut off US funding to UN by vetoing any bills that contain it.
The UN would then have to cut UNIT's budget.
Did that happen?
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2019-01-02 08:08:06 UTC
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Afterwards the Dalek organism is split into three pieces and sent to all
four corners of the earth. Hum... All three corners of the earth. Um...
not quite corners. One piece is sent to Sheffield and the other two are
sent to Siberia and Anuta Island. These places are not even equidistant.
That was explained in the episode. The part wasn't supposed to go to
Sheffield. That just happens to be where the custodian just happened to
be killed.
Post by The True Doctor
Apparently at this time King Alfred or his court have diplomatic
relations with Siberia and sub-Saharan Africa,
We don't know that it was King Alfred who arranged and organised
this alliance.
Post by The True Doctor
Unfortunately for us, the woman entrusted with taking the 1/3 portion of
Dalek meat to Sheffield is shot dead before she can bury it like the
others.
Almost. The custodian wasn't taking the part to Sheffield, just passing
there on the way to somewhere else.
Post by The True Doctor
Chibnall proves that he doesn't have a clue how to write romance, in
trying to portray a relationship between a woman archaeologist and some
guy who's helping her out, portrayed as whip of course,
Oooh, BDSM! I don't remember that!
Post by The True Doctor
Meanwhile another 20 minutes of irrelevant soap opera begins when Ryan's
dad comes to visit, and Graham being left along to talk to him.
Yeah. For the first time ever, you're right about the irrelevant soap
opera.
Post by The True Doctor
The Dalek controlled archaeologist drives her car down a motorway at
high speed and is stopped by the police. She kills the police officers
with a Dalek gun.
If the gun is still working 1100 years later, then why didn't the Dalek
defend itself with it before?
She didn't use Dalek gun on the police officers. She got the gun later
when she raided DBZ.
Post by The True Doctor
The woman then takes the police car and a police jacket and drives to a
farm, where she kills the farmer the same way, and reassembles the Dalek
casing from parts of the original case that came from nowhere.
Nice callback to the Doctor building the sonic screwdriver, confirming
the Doctor and the Daleks as equal-but-opposite counterparts.
Post by The True Doctor
The irrelevant mind numbing soap opera involving Ryan's Dad continues
with Graham now joined by Ryan, and Whittaker attempts to do a chemical
analysis using a box of eggs.
Is this shit supposed to be educational? Why does she need a box of
fucking eggs from Graham's kitchen when she's got a fucking lab in the
TARDIS for fucks sake.
Presumably the TARDIS lab doesn't contain any eggs.
Post by The True Doctor
So it's a Dalek, then. Everyone knew it was a fucking Dalek before the
episode even started, and worked out the entire plot. What does Chibnall
thinks he's don't by pretending that these some kind of mystery. The
brainless fool doesn't have a clue how to do mystery. It doesn't work
when the audience already knows what's coming.
Most viewers don't hunt down spoilers for upcoming episodes. And most
viewers probably think Daleks are robots with no organic parts. The
programme isn't being written for people like you or me.
Post by The True Doctor
So, Whittaker finally for once, decides to contact UNIT for once, but
UNIT has been disbanded in the UK because of Brexit. FOR FUCKS BLOODY
SAKE! Why does Chibnall think he's doing Little Britain?
I don't recall Brexit being mentioned at all.
Post by The True Doctor
Then, using her magic powers, Whittaker manages to work out the location
of the Dalek organism along with the woman archeologist from her mobile
phone signal. But the Dalek organism doesn't have a mobile phone so how
can she see that it's several meters away from the woman?
This was explained in the episode, The Doctor is tracking the Dalek's
alien bio-signal.
Post by The True Doctor
GHCQ hasn't used visible radio dishes for the past 40 fucking years. All
of it's communications arrays are under covers, because if they were
not, the Russian would know where they were pointing at.
Maybe that's what the government wants you to think...?
Post by The True Doctor
Just how fucking stupid does Chibnall think the audience are? There's
isn't enough power on the planet to send a detectable radio signal to
Alpha Centuri let alone to Skaro, and putting it though an ordinary
communications dish, fuck the dish, putting it though an ordinary power
transmission line will burn it out completely.
This is just following continuity. If an ordinary radio telescope can
send a signal to a CVE in Cassiopeia, then what's different about this?
Post by The True Doctor
But the Dalek creature survives and attaches itself to Ryan's Dad in the
TARDIS. So taking off to take it to the fleet--like how the fuck does
she know where it even is?
She doesn't. She's lying.
Post by The True Doctor
--she creates a vacuum tunnel around the Dalek
and Ryan's dad, as if by magic,
Well, the TARDIS is sufficiently advanced.
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2019-01-02 08:21:36 UTC
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Just how fucking stupid does Chibnall think the audience are? There's
isn't enough power on the planet to send a detectable radio signal to
Alpha Centuri let alone to Skaro, and putting it though an ordinary
communications dish, fuck the dish, putting it though an ordinary power
transmission line will burn it out completely.
This is just following continuity. If an ordinary radio telescope can
send a signal to a CVE in Cassiopeia, then what's different about this?
The Dalek wouldn't have Logopolan technology, so wouldn't be able to send a signal to a CVE.
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Post by The True Doctor
But the Dalek creature survives and attaches itself to Ryan's Dad in the
TARDIS. So taking off to take it to the fleet--like how the fuck does
she know where it even is?
She doesn't. She's lying.
Or she jumped so far into future that the sun of the Dalek fleet's base had gone supernova!
The Doctor
2019-01-02 14:28:39 UTC
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Just how fucking stupid does Chibnall think the audience are? There's
isn't enough power on the planet to send a detectable radio signal to
Alpha Centuri let alone to Skaro, and putting it though an ordinary
communications dish, fuck the dish, putting it though an ordinary power
transmission line will burn it out completely.
This is just following continuity. If an ordinary radio telescope can
send a signal to a CVE in Cassiopeia, then what's different about this?
The Dalek wouldn't have Logopolan technology, so wouldn't be able to send a signal to a CVE.
You are not getting the analogy.
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But the Dalek creature survives and attaches itself to Ryan's Dad in the
TARDIS. So taking off to take it to the fleet--like how the fuck does
she know where it even is?
She doesn't. She's lying.
Or she jumped so far into future that the sun of the Dalek fleet's base had gone supernova!
No.
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2019-01-02 08:31:15 UTC
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Afterwards the Dalek organism is split into three pieces and sent to all
four corners of the earth. Hum... All three corners of the earth. Um...
not quite corners. One piece is sent to Sheffield and the other two are
sent to Siberia and Anuta Island. These places are not even equidistant.
That was explained in the episode. The part wasn't supposed to go to
Sheffield. That just happens to be where the custodian just happened to
be killed.
The custodian's intended destination would have to be on that island, else she wouldn't have crossed water to get there!
The Doctor
2019-01-02 14:29:17 UTC
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Afterwards the Dalek organism is split into three pieces and sent to all
four corners of the earth. Hum... All three corners of the earth. Um...
not quite corners. One piece is sent to Sheffield and the other two are
sent to Siberia and Anuta Island. These places are not even equidistant.
That was explained in the episode. The part wasn't supposed to go to
Sheffield. That just happens to be where the custodian just happened to
be killed.
The custodian's intended destination would have to be on that island,
else she wouldn't have crossed water to get there!
If the guardian knew where to sail.
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2019-01-02 08:36:18 UTC
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Afterwards the Dalek organism is split into three pieces and sent to all
four corners of the earth. Hum... All three corners of the earth. Um...
not quite corners. One piece is sent to Sheffield and the other two are
sent to Siberia and Anuta Island. These places are not even equidistant.
That was explained in the episode. The part wasn't supposed to go to
Sheffield. That just happens to be where the custodian just happened to
be killed.

Don't forget, Aggy, Yads and Tim are too busy trying to find problems rather than actually paying any attention to the story itself...
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Afterwards the Dalek organism is split into three pieces and sent to all
four corners of the earth. Hum... All three corners of the earth. Um...
not quite corners. One piece is sent to Sheffield and the other two are
sent to Siberia and Anuta Island. These places are not even equidistant.
That was explained in the episode. The part wasn't supposed to go to
Sheffield. That just happens to be where the custodian just happened to
be killed.
Don't forget, Aggy, Yads and Tim are too busy trying to find problems
rather than actually paying any attention to the story itself...
Wilson, you are a severe threat to society like richard Dawkins.
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2019-01-02 12:22:15 UTC
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Afterwards the Dalek organism is split into three pieces and sent to all
four corners of the earth. Hum... All three corners of the earth. Um...
not quite corners. One piece is sent to Sheffield and the other two are
sent to Siberia and Anuta Island. These places are not even equidistant.
That was explained in the episode. The part wasn't supposed to go to
Sheffield. That just happens to be where the custodian just happened to
be killed.
Oh, but it just happens to be in Sheffield. Like the whole fucking
galaxy now revolves around Sheffield. And the pieces would be even
closer together if the stupid woman had reached the north pole.
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Post by The True Doctor
Apparently at this time King Alfred or his court have diplomatic
relations with Siberia and sub-Saharan Africa,
We don't know that it was King Alfred who arranged and organised
this alliance.
But there was an alliance consisting of races no one in Britain at the
time had any trading relations with.
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Post by The True Doctor
Unfortunately for us, the woman entrusted with taking the 1/3 portion of
Dalek meat to Sheffield is shot dead before she can bury it like the
others.
Almost. The custodian wasn't taking the part to Sheffield, just passing
there on the way to somewhere else.
And like where was she taking it? It was getting closer and closer to
both the other parts the direction she was heading in.
Post by solar penguin
Post by The True Doctor
Chibnall proves that he doesn't have a clue how to write romance, in
trying to portray a relationship between a woman archaeologist and some
guy who's helping her out, portrayed as whip of course,
Oooh, BDSM! I don't remember that!
Wimp.
Post by solar penguin
Post by The True Doctor
Meanwhile another 20 minutes of irrelevant soap opera begins when Ryan's
dad comes to visit, and Graham being left along to talk to him.
Yeah. For the first time ever, you're right about the irrelevant soap
opera.
I am always right about the irrelevant soap opera.
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Post by The True Doctor
The Dalek controlled archaeologist drives her car down a motorway at
high speed and is stopped by the police. She kills the police officers
with a Dalek gun.
If the gun is still working 1100 years later, then why didn't the Dalek
defend itself with it before?
She didn't use Dalek gun on the police officers. She got the gun later
when she raided DBZ.
Whatever. It was still working 1100 years later. Why didn't the Dalek
defend itself with it back then?
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Post by The True Doctor
The woman then takes the police car and a police jacket and drives to a
farm, where she kills the farmer the same way, and reassembles the Dalek
casing from parts of the original case that came from nowhere.
Nice callback to the Doctor building the sonic screwdriver, confirming
the Doctor and the Daleks as equal-but-opposite counterparts.
Proving Chibnall's writing is totally ridiculous and unbelievably. If it
was that easy to build a Dalek or a sonic screwdriver, then why doesn't
everyone have one?
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Post by The True Doctor
The irrelevant mind numbing soap opera involving Ryan's Dad continues
with Graham now joined by Ryan, and Whittaker attempts to do a chemical
analysis using a box of eggs.
Is this shit supposed to be educational? Why does she need a box of
fucking eggs from Graham's kitchen when she's got a fucking lab in the
TARDIS for fucks sake.
Presumably the TARDIS lab doesn't contain any eggs.
Eggs are not the usual kind of reagents found in a chemistry lab. I
don't remember Francis Crick using eggs to work out the structure of
DNA. Why would a Dalak have DNA anyway?
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Post by The True Doctor
So it's a Dalek, then. Everyone knew it was a fucking Dalek before the
episode even started, and worked out the entire plot. What does Chibnall
thinks he's don't by pretending that these some kind of mystery. The
brainless fool doesn't have a clue how to do mystery. It doesn't work
when the audience already knows what's coming.
Most viewers don't hunt down spoilers for upcoming episodes. And most
viewers probably think Daleks are robots with no organic parts. The
programme isn't being written for people like you or me.
Post by The True Doctor
So, Whittaker finally for once, decides to contact UNIT for once, but
UNIT has been disbanded in the UK because of Brexit. FOR FUCKS BLOODY
SAKE! Why does Chibnall think he's doing Little Britain?
I don't recall Brexit being mentioned at all.
It's a reference to Britain being frozen out of EU security and
intelligence mechanisms because of Brexit.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1053555/Brexit-news-UK-EU-future-relationship-Theresa-May-security-defence-Galileo-latest
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Post by The True Doctor
Then, using her magic powers, Whittaker manages to work out the location
of the Dalek organism along with the woman archeologist from her mobile
phone signal. But the Dalek organism doesn't have a mobile phone so how
can she see that it's several meters away from the woman?
This was explained in the episode, The Doctor is tracking the Dalek's
alien bio-signal.
It's what? With what? How? When was this system put into place?
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Post by The True Doctor
GHCQ hasn't used visible radio dishes for the past 40 fucking years. All
of it's communications arrays are under covers, because if they were
not, the Russian would know where they were pointing at.
Maybe that's what the government wants you to think...?
Go and re-watch The Creature from the Pit. Where do you think the BBC
got the images of the domes in it from?
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Post by The True Doctor
Just how fucking stupid does Chibnall think the audience are? There's
isn't enough power on the planet to send a detectable radio signal to
Alpha Centuri let alone to Skaro, and putting it though an ordinary
communications dish, fuck the dish, putting it though an ordinary power
transmission line will burn it out completely.
This is just following continuity. If an ordinary radio telescope can
send a signal to a CVE in Cassiopeia, then what's different about this?
There isn't a radio telescope on Earth that is powerful to sent a
detectable signal from Earth to another solar system. Even all of they
put together can't do it. The Dalek would have stood an infinitely
better chance of sending a signal using Morse Code by intermittently
blocking out the sun, and even then it would have taken 550 years to get
there.
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Post by The True Doctor
But the Dalek creature survives and attaches itself to Ryan's Dad in the
TARDIS. So taking off to take it to the fleet--like how the fuck does
she know where it even is?
She doesn't. She's lying.
And the Dalek is so stupid that it believes her? Why didn't it ask her
to open a communication channel?
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Post by The True Doctor
--she creates a vacuum tunnel around the Dalek
and Ryan's dad, as if by magic,
Well, the TARDIS is sufficiently advanced.
It was never shown to ever have that capability before. Why would it
ever be needed?

Given that it can now do anything, why didn't Whittaker just lock on a
teleport beam onto the Dalek and teleport it into the sun the moment she
detected it?

Chibnall doesn't have a fucking clue how to write.
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2019-01-02 14:50:56 UTC
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Afterwards the Dalek organism is split into three pieces and sent to all
four corners of the earth. Hum... All three corners of the earth. Um...
not quite corners. One piece is sent to Sheffield and the other two are
sent to Siberia and Anuta Island. These places are not even equidistant.
That was explained in the episode. The part wasn't supposed to go to
Sheffield. That just happens to be where the custodian just happened to
be killed.
Oh, but it just happens to be in Sheffield. Like the whole fucking
galaxy now revolves around Sheffield. And the pieces would be even
closer together if the stupid woman had reached the north pole.
OR more likely the Chibnallverse.
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Post by solar penguin
Post by The True Doctor
Apparently at this time King Alfred or his court have diplomatic
relations with Siberia and sub-Saharan Africa,
We don't know that it was King Alfred who arranged and organised
this alliance.
But there was an alliance consisting of races no one in Britain at the
time had any trading relations with.
Exactly!
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Post by solar penguin
Post by The True Doctor
Unfortunately for us, the woman entrusted with taking the 1/3 portion of
Dalek meat to Sheffield is shot dead before she can bury it like the
others.
Almost. The custodian wasn't taking the part to Sheffield, just passing
there on the way to somewhere else.
And like where was she taking it? It was getting closer and closer to
both the other parts the direction she was heading in.
Only to be shot.
Post by The True Doctor
Post by solar penguin
Post by The True Doctor
Chibnall proves that he doesn't have a clue how to write romance, in
trying to portray a relationship between a woman archaeologist and some
guy who's helping her out, portrayed as whip of course,
Oooh, BDSM! I don't remember that!
Wimp.
Post by solar penguin
Post by The True Doctor
Meanwhile another 20 minutes of irrelevant soap opera begins when Ryan's
dad comes to visit, and Graham being left along to talk to him.
Yeah. For the first time ever, you're right about the irrelevant soap
opera.
I am always right about the irrelevant soap opera.
Something Wilson does not acknowledge.
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The Dalek controlled archaeologist drives her car down a motorway at
high speed and is stopped by the police. She kills the police officers
with a Dalek gun.
If the gun is still working 1100 years later, then why didn't the Dalek
defend itself with it before?
She didn't use Dalek gun on the police officers. She got the gun later
when she raided DBZ.
Whatever. It was still working 1100 years later. Why didn't the Dalek
defend itself with it back then?
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The woman then takes the police car and a police jacket and drives to a
farm, where she kills the farmer the same way, and reassembles the Dalek
casing from parts of the original case that came from nowhere.
Nice callback to the Doctor building the sonic screwdriver, confirming
the Doctor and the Daleks as equal-but-opposite counterparts.
Proving Chibnall's writing is totally ridiculous and unbelievably. If it
was that easy to build a Dalek or a sonic screwdriver, then why doesn't
everyone have one?
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The irrelevant mind numbing soap opera involving Ryan's Dad continues
with Graham now joined by Ryan, and Whittaker attempts to do a chemical
analysis using a box of eggs.
Is this shit supposed to be educational? Why does she need a box of
fucking eggs from Graham's kitchen when she's got a fucking lab in the
TARDIS for fucks sake.
Presumably the TARDIS lab doesn't contain any eggs.
Eggs are not the usual kind of reagents found in a chemistry lab. I
don't remember Francis Crick using eggs to work out the structure of
DNA. Why would a Dalak have DNA anyway?
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So it's a Dalek, then. Everyone knew it was a fucking Dalek before the
episode even started, and worked out the entire plot. What does Chibnall
thinks he's don't by pretending that these some kind of mystery. The
brainless fool doesn't have a clue how to do mystery. It doesn't work
when the audience already knows what's coming.
Most viewers don't hunt down spoilers for upcoming episodes. And most
viewers probably think Daleks are robots with no organic parts. The
programme isn't being written for people like you or me.
Post by The True Doctor
So, Whittaker finally for once, decides to contact UNIT for once, but
UNIT has been disbanded in the UK because of Brexit. FOR FUCKS BLOODY
SAKE! Why does Chibnall think he's doing Little Britain?
I don't recall Brexit being mentioned at all.
It's a reference to Britain being frozen out of EU security and
intelligence mechanisms because of Brexit.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1053555/Brexit-news-UK-EU-future-relationship-Theresa-May-security-defence-Galileo-latest
UNIT is part of the UN not the EU.
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Then, using her magic powers, Whittaker manages to work out the location
of the Dalek organism along with the woman archeologist from her mobile
phone signal. But the Dalek organism doesn't have a mobile phone so how
can she see that it's several meters away from the woman?
This was explained in the episode, The Doctor is tracking the Dalek's
alien bio-signal.
It's what? With what? How? When was this system put into place?
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GHCQ hasn't used visible radio dishes for the past 40 fucking years. All
of it's communications arrays are under covers, because if they were
not, the Russian would know where they were pointing at.
Maybe that's what the government wants you to think...?
Go and re-watch The Creature from the Pit. Where do you think the BBC
got the images of the domes in it from?
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Just how fucking stupid does Chibnall think the audience are? There's
isn't enough power on the planet to send a detectable radio signal to
Alpha Centuri let alone to Skaro, and putting it though an ordinary
communications dish, fuck the dish, putting it though an ordinary power
transmission line will burn it out completely.
This is just following continuity. If an ordinary radio telescope can
send a signal to a CVE in Cassiopeia, then what's different about this?
There isn't a radio telescope on Earth that is powerful to sent a
detectable signal from Earth to another solar system. Even all of they
put together can't do it. The Dalek would have stood an infinitely
better chance of sending a signal using Morse Code by intermittently
blocking out the sun, and even then it would have taken 550 years to get
there.
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But the Dalek creature survives and attaches itself to Ryan's Dad in the
TARDIS. So taking off to take it to the fleet--like how the fuck does
she know where it even is?
She doesn't. She's lying.
And the Dalek is so stupid that it believes her? Why didn't it ask her
to open a communication channel?
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--she creates a vacuum tunnel around the Dalek
and Ryan's dad, as if by magic,
Well, the TARDIS is sufficiently advanced.
It was never shown to ever have that capability before. Why would it
ever be needed?
Given that it can now do anything, why didn't Whittaker just lock on a
teleport beam onto the Dalek and teleport it into the sun the moment she
detected it?
Chibnall doesn't have a fucking clue how to write.
42 is proof of that.
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Afterwards the Dalek organism is split into three pieces and sent to all
four corners of the earth. Hum... All three corners of the earth. Um...
not quite corners. One piece is sent to Sheffield and the other two are
sent to Siberia and Anuta Island. These places are not even equidistant.
That was explained in the episode. The part wasn't supposed to go to
Sheffield. That just happens to be where the custodian just happened to
be killed.
There we go.
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Apparently at this time King Alfred or his court have diplomatic
relations with Siberia and sub-Saharan Africa,
We don't know that it was King Alfred who arranged and organised
this alliance.
Or where exactly!
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Unfortunately for us, the woman entrusted with taking the 1/3 portion of
Dalek meat to Sheffield is shot dead before she can bury it like the
others.
Almost. The custodian wasn't taking the part to Sheffield, just passing
there on the way to somewhere else.
Good point.
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Chibnall proves that he doesn't have a clue how to write romance, in
trying to portray a relationship between a woman archaeologist and some
guy who's helping her out, portrayed as whip of course,
Oooh, BDSM! I don't remember that!
SP humour for us!
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Meanwhile another 20 minutes of irrelevant soap opera begins when Ryan's
dad comes to visit, and Graham being left along to talk to him.
Yeah. For the first time ever, you're right about the irrelevant soap
opera.
We all agree!!
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The Dalek controlled archaeologist drives her car down a motorway at
high speed and is stopped by the police. She kills the police officers
with a Dalek gun.
If the gun is still working 1100 years later, then why didn't the Dalek
defend itself with it before?
She didn't use Dalek gun on the police officers. She got the gun later
when she raided DBZ.
MDZ
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The woman then takes the police car and a police jacket and drives to a
farm, where she kills the farmer the same way, and reassembles the Dalek
casing from parts of the original case that came from nowhere.
Nice callback to the Doctor building the sonic screwdriver, confirming
the Doctor and the Daleks as equal-but-opposite counterparts.
it versus a Dalek in a made-up metal dress.
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The irrelevant mind numbing soap opera involving Ryan's Dad continues
with Graham now joined by Ryan, and Whittaker attempts to do a chemical
analysis using a box of eggs.
Is this shit supposed to be educational? Why does she need a box of
fucking eggs from Graham's kitchen when she's got a fucking lab in the
TARDIS for fucks sake.
Presumably the TARDIS lab doesn't contain any eggs.
Crackers!
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So it's a Dalek, then. Everyone knew it was a fucking Dalek before the
episode even started, and worked out the entire plot. What does Chibnall
thinks he's don't by pretending that these some kind of mystery. The
brainless fool doesn't have a clue how to do mystery. It doesn't work
when the audience already knows what's coming.
Most viewers don't hunt down spoilers for upcoming episodes. And most
viewers probably think Daleks are robots with no organic parts. The
programme isn't being written for people like you or me.
Oh?

Chibnall cannot write and the audience is severely turned off!
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So, Whittaker finally for once, decides to contact UNIT for once, but
UNIT has been disbanded in the UK because of Brexit. FOR FUCKS BLOODY
SAKE! Why does Chibnall think he's doing Little Britain?
I don't recall Brexit being mentioned at all.
Implied, but still UNIT is part of the UN!
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Then, using her magic powers, Whittaker manages to work out the location
of the Dalek organism along with the woman archeologist from her mobile
phone signal. But the Dalek organism doesn't have a mobile phone so how
can she see that it's several meters away from the woman?
This was explained in the episode, The Doctor is tracking the Dalek's
alien bio-signal.
Via DNA sampling.
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GHCQ hasn't used visible radio dishes for the past 40 fucking years. All
of it's communications arrays are under covers, because if they were
not, the Russian would know where they were pointing at.
Maybe that's what the government wants you to think...?
Well ...
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Just how fucking stupid does Chibnall think the audience are? There's
isn't enough power on the planet to send a detectable radio signal to
Alpha Centuri let alone to Skaro, and putting it though an ordinary
communications dish, fuck the dish, putting it though an ordinary power
transmission line will burn it out completely.
This is just following continuity. If an ordinary radio telescope can
send a signal to a CVE in Cassiopeia, then what's different about this?
Your defence?
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But the Dalek creature survives and attaches itself to Ryan's Dad in the
TARDIS. So taking off to take it to the fleet--like how the fuck does
she know where it even is?
She doesn't. She's lying.
As usual
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--she creates a vacuum tunnel around the Dalek
and Ryan's dad, as if by magic,
Well, the TARDIS is sufficiently advanced.
Depends on what gravitational forces are involved.
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2019-01-02 08:33:10 UTC
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So, Whittaker finally for once, decides to contact UNIT for once, but
UNIT has been disbanded in the UK because of Brexit. FOR FUCKS BLOODY
SAKE! Why does Chibnall think he's doing Little Britain?

You'd fit right into Little Britain, Aggy. Although as a character I think even you are too OTT.
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2019-01-02 14:29:44 UTC
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So, Whittaker finally for once, decides to contact UNIT for once, but
UNIT has been disbanded in the UK because of Brexit. FOR FUCKS BLOODY
SAKE! Why does Chibnall think he's doing Little Britain?
You'd fit right into Little Britain, Aggy. Although as a character I
think even you are too OTT.
You are Little Britain in one human being Stephen Wilson!
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2019-01-02 22:50:51 UTC
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The New Year's shit fest starts in 9th century England where Chibnall
shits over the face of history.
The Anglo-Saxons have managed
Done up like Picts, for some reason.

to defeat a Dalek by melting its casing
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after placing or trapping it on a wooden pyre. How a wooden pyre can
melt something far stronger than iron which requires a temperature 1510
degrees C to melt, which can only be produced by a blast furnace, is
never explained.
You realise that smelting and steel production was well-known to the Anglo-Saxons, right? A campfire with sticks around it won't get there, but we never saw the Dalek being melted - just a later artist's interpretation of what happened (though said artist had a pretty good idea what a Dalek looked like).

Yet the Dalek metal case is seen completely melting,
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and like the Dalek kindly decides to stay in place without firing
The weapon has a minimum range since it juts out of the body. Not much a Dalek can do except roll away (or fly) if it's surrounded closer than that.
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Afterwards the Dalek organism is split into three pieces and sent to all
four corners of the earth. Hum... All three corners of the earth. Um...
not quite corners.
It's probably about time you learned this, Aggy: The Earth doesn't have corners, it's a sphere. 'Corners of the Earth' is an expression not meant to be taken literally.

How they got to Oceania is a more significant question.
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Apparently at this time King Alfred or his court have diplomatic
relations with Siberia and sub-Saharan Africa, since one of the people
entrusted with this task looks Mongolian
The modern custodian is from a Siberian ethnic group - the one who was sent out was white. Just as the modern custodian on the island was Polynesian, unlike the one sent out. Seems fairly reasonable.
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Unfortunately for us, the woman entrusted with taking the 1/3 portion of
Dalek meat to Sheffield is shot dead before she can bury it like the
others.
Why would anyone in their right mind trust such a task to a feeble woman
in the first place? Why didn't they just let thing burn on the Pyre?
Misogyny is the best you've got, Aggy? More relevantly, why did they trust any of these to single individuals rather than groups - and why carry the pieces away that far in any case? It's not as though anyone was going to be using UV lights to bring them together in the 9th Century, and if it was chopped up it would otherwise make no difference if the bits were 2,000 miles from each other or 2.
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Chibnall proves that he doesn't have a clue how to write romance, in
trying to portray a relationship between a woman archaeologist and some
guy who's helping her out,
A man archaeologist, you mean?

portrayed as whip of course, as is the order
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of things in Chibnall's SJW crap fests.
It was a couple of lines.
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Meanwhile another 20 minutes of irrelevant soap opera begins when Ryan's
dad comes to visit, and Graham being left along to talk to him.
Also only a couple of minutes, but it was certainly shoehorned in and out of place in an episode that finally gets to do a proper monster romp. Ryan and Graham each have a good scene with the dad, but it's a misplaced plot that doesn't really have a home in the episode, is rushed despite being foreshadowed for the entirety of the last season, and is wrapped up with a reconciliation conjured out of thin air because the writer has no time to devote to giving it a proper resolution.
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Back in the TARDIS Whittaker surmises that Sheffield is in danger and
lands the TARDIS at the archaeological site which is under the town
hall, and starts pointing her sonic dildo at everyone.
The woman archaeologist
Alternative phrases you can use here are the character's name, Lynne, or simply "the archaeologist" (since you've decided that the man archaeologist is just her assistant or technician). Noting that she's a woman adds nothing.
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The Dalek controlled archaeologist drives her car down a motorway at
high speed and is stopped by the police. She kills the police officers
with a Dalek gun.
If the gun is still working 1100 years later, then why didn't the Dalek
defend itself with it before?
It took armies to beat it - it can't shoot everything at once (though the new torso missiles probably help). I wonder how it was powered while not attached to the Dalek.
Post by The True Doctor
So it's a Dalek, then. Everyone knew it was a fucking Dalek before the
episode even started, and worked out the entire plot. What does Chibnall
thinks he's don't by pretending that these some kind of mystery.
Think back to 2005. There was a whole buildup to the reveal of the mystery monster ... in an episode called "Dalek". It's pretty much a convention with Dalek stories and any other involving a classic monster: you know the Dalek will show up, the question is when it will and when the Doctor will learn what he/she is up against.

The
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brainless fool doesn't have a clue how to do mystery. It doesn't work
when the audience already knows what's coming.
He's making the mistake of assuming the audience isn't brainless and understands the point. Unfortunately he hasn't counted on you watching.
Post by The True Doctor
So, Whittaker finally for once, decides to contact UNIT for once, but
UNIT has been disbanded in the UK because of Brexit. FOR FUCKS BLOODY
SAKE! Why does Chibnall think he's doing Little Britain?
Actually it was a comment on austerity (it was wound down because there was no immediate perceived need for it) but it works for Brexit as well. Satire is allowed in Dr Who, and this was well-judged and didn't intrude on the plot - the story needed a reason for UNIT not to be involved and this was an amusing way to do it.
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Then, using her magic powers,
That would be the lab in the TARDIS you just suggested she use.

Whittaker manages to work out the location
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of the Dalek organism along with the archeologist from her mobile
phone signal. But the Dalek organism doesn't have a mobile phone so how
can she see that it's several meters away from the woman?
On the list of major Dr Who plotholes, I don't think "Daleks don't use mobile phones" has ever previously come up.
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Just how fucking stupid does Chibnall think the audience are?
Not stupid enough, apparently, since he so continually overestimates your ability to grasp the storyline of Dr Who episodes.

There's
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isn't enough power on the planet to send a detectable radio signal to
Alpha Centuri let alone to Skaro, and putting it though an ordinary
communications dish, fuck the dish, putting it though an ordinary power
transmission line will burn it out completely.
I was wondering more why the Dalek fleet needed a signal of any kind. I'm pretty sure they know where Earth is and don't need to wait for permission to invade:

Dalek fleet: Well, we could send a huge horde of Daleks in and invade, but what if they beat us?

Dalek: Don't worry, a thousand year old lone Dalek managed to annex the entire planet so we don't need to worry that thousands won't get the job done.

Fleet: Okay, that's reassuring. Just one question.

Dalek: Yes?

Fleet: If we've already annexed the planet, I guess we aren't actually needed there, right?
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Then ensures 10 more minutes of totally irrelevant mind numbing soap
opera
Evidently it's succeeded in numbing your mind completely. It wasn't soap opera, it was a comic interlude - and a way to acknowledge that this was a New Year's Day episode since otherwise the date had nothing at all to do with anything.

which has no place at all in Doctor Who, about some woman's kids
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complaining about having no internet. But how come the lights are still on?
Lightbulbs don't require the internet.
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Fuck Chibnall and his stupid shit! All of the soap opera could have been
cut out completely and made no difference to the story.
That much is true, but it would have been, oh, 5 minutes shorter.
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After hearing about how the Dalek was originally destroyed--like this
was actually recorded as history, then how come no one else have even
heard of it?--
How come no one else has even heard of Daleks? Pretty sure they've been a significant part of events on Earth that haven't been erased from everyone's memory.

Whittaker emerges from the TARDIS under protection of a
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force field and using her magic dildo destroys the reconstructed Dalek
casing by melting it.
She turned the microwave on, you mean?
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But the Dalek creature survives and attaches itself to Ryan's Dad in the
TARDIS. So taking off to take it to the fleet--like how the fuck does
she know where it even is?-
She doesn't have to and the Dalek isn't bright enough to ask - or maybe it gave her the coordinates.
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Another pile of stinking excrement shat from Chibnall's fucking kolos,
padded out with mind numbing irrelevant soap opera and proving Chibnall
has no idea how to write science fiction, can't write romance either,
and can't do humour at all,
The rels line was quite funny.

especially with a shit talent-less actress
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like Whittaker who still hasn't learned how to act, and she never will!
0/10
Now an 18 month long wait until the next series, because Chibnall wants
another fucking long holiday.
So, after ranting about how bad this series is and giving it a full 11 0/10 grades, you're now complaining about how long you have to wait for the next one?
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This has been the worst series ever!
No, it's been consistently mediocre with one notable highlight and a good special. That sets it well above the Moffatt seasons and several classic seasons (Colin Baker's in particular).
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The New Year's shit fest starts in 9th century England where Chibnall
shits over the face of history.
The Anglo-Saxons have managed
Done up like Picts, for some reason.
to defeat a Dalek by melting its casing
And how tight were the ropes.
Post by p***@conservation.org
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after placing or trapping it on a wooden pyre. How a wooden pyre can
melt something far stronger than iron which requires a temperature 1510
degrees C to melt, which can only be produced by a blast furnace, is
never explained.
You realise that smelting and steel production was well-known to the
Anglo-Saxons, right? A campfire with sticks around it won't get there,
but we never saw the Dalek being melted - just a later artist's
interpretation of what happened (though said artist had a pretty good
idea what a Dalek looked like).
In the casing.
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Yet the Dalek metal case is seen completely melting,
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and like the Dalek kindly decides to stay in place without firing
The weapon has a minimum range since it juts out of the body. Not much a
Dalek can do except roll away (or fly) if it's surrounded closer than
that.
Really how can you beat a Dlaek
then cut the mutant into 3?
Post by p***@conservation.org
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Afterwards the Dalek organism is split into three pieces and sent to all
four corners of the earth. Hum... All three corners of the earth. Um...
not quite corners.
It's probably about time you learned this, Aggy: The Earth doesn't have
corners, it's a sphere. 'Corners of the Earth' is an expression not
meant to be taken literally.
How they got to Oceania is a more significant question.
Given the Flat Earth theory.
Post by p***@conservation.org
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Apparently at this time King Alfred or his court have diplomatic
relations with Siberia and sub-Saharan Africa, since one of the people
entrusted with this task looks Mongolian
The modern custodian is from a Siberian ethnic group - the one who was
sent out was white. Just as the modern custodian on the island was
Polynesian, unlike the one sent out. Seems fairly reasonable.
As you view it.
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Unfortunately for us, the woman entrusted with taking the 1/3 portion of
Dalek meat to Sheffield is shot dead before she can bury it like the
others.
Why would anyone in their right mind trust such a task to a feeble woman
in the first place? Why didn't they just let thing burn on the Pyre?
Misogyny is the best you've got, Aggy? More relevantly, why did they
trust any of these to single individuals rather than groups - and why
carry the pieces away that far in any case? It's not as though anyone
was going to be using UV lights to bring them together in the 9th
Century, and if it was chopped up it would otherwise make no difference
if the bits were 2,000 miles from each other or 2.
Yawn.
Post by p***@conservation.org
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Chibnall proves that he doesn't have a clue how to write romance, in
trying to portray a relationship between a woman archaeologist and some
guy who's helping her out,
A man archaeologist, you mean?
portrayed as whip of course, as is the order
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of things in Chibnall's SJW crap fests.
TTD is spot on about Chinball.
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It was a couple of lines.
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Meanwhile another 20 minutes of irrelevant soap opera begins when Ryan's
dad comes to visit, and Graham being left along to talk to him.
Also only a couple of minutes, but it was certainly shoehorned in and
out of place in an episode that finally gets to do a proper monster
romp. Ryan and Graham each have a good scene with the dad, but it's a
misplaced plot that doesn't really have a home in the episode, is rushed
despite being foreshadowed for the entirety of the last season, and is
wrapped up with a reconciliation conjured out of thin air because the
writer has no time to devote to giving it a proper resolution.
WEll...
Post by p***@conservation.org
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Back in the TARDIS Whittaker surmises that Sheffield is in danger and
lands the TARDIS at the archaeological site which is under the town
hall, and starts pointing her sonic dildo at everyone.
The woman archaeologist
Alternative phrases you can use here are the character's name, Lynne, or
simply "the archaeologist" (since you've decided that the man
archaeologist is just her assistant or technician). Noting that she's a
woman adds nothing.
Except for being jumped by a mutant.
Post by p***@conservation.org
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The Dalek controlled archaeologist drives her car down a motorway at
high speed and is stopped by the police. She kills the police officers
with a Dalek gun.
If the gun is still working 1100 years later, then why didn't the Dalek
defend itself with it before?
It took armies to beat it - it can't shoot everything at once (though
the new torso missiles probably help). I wonder how it was powered while
not attached to the Dalek.
Missiles in the original? Nah!
Post by p***@conservation.org
Post by The True Doctor
So it's a Dalek, then. Everyone knew it was a fucking Dalek before the
episode even started, and worked out the entire plot. What does Chibnall
thinks he's don't by pretending that these some kind of mystery.
Think back to 2005. There was a whole buildup to the reveal of the
mystery monster ... in an episode called "Dalek". It's pretty much a
you know the Dalek will show up, the question is when it will and when
the Doctor will learn what he/she is up against.
One of the worst.
Post by p***@conservation.org
The
Post by The True Doctor
brainless fool doesn't have a clue how to do mystery. It doesn't work
when the audience already knows what's coming.
He's making the mistake of assuming the audience isn't brainless and
understands the point. Unfortunately he hasn't counted on you watching.
And many others.
Post by p***@conservation.org
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So, Whittaker finally for once, decides to contact UNIT for once, but
UNIT has been disbanded in the UK because of Brexit. FOR FUCKS BLOODY
SAKE! Why does Chibnall think he's doing Little Britain?
Actually it was a comment on austerity (it was wound down because there
was no immediate perceived need for it) but it works for Brexit as well.
Satire is allowed in Dr Who, and this was well-judged and didn't intrude
on the plot - the story needed a reason for UNIT not to be involved and
this was an amusing way to do it.
WEll, UNIT is part of the UN.
Post by p***@conservation.org
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Then, using her magic powers,
That would be the lab in the TARDIS you just suggested she use.
Whittaker manages to work out the location
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of the Dalek organism along with the archeologist from her mobile
phone signal. But the Dalek organism doesn't have a mobile phone so how
can she see that it's several meters away from the woman?
On the list of major Dr Who plotholes, I don't think "Daleks don't use
mobile phones" has ever previously come up.
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Just how fucking stupid does Chibnall think the audience are?
Not stupid enough, apparently, since he so continually overestimates
your ability to grasp the storyline of Dr Who episodes.
There's
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isn't enough power on the planet to send a detectable radio signal to
Alpha Centuri let alone to Skaro, and putting it though an ordinary
communications dish, fuck the dish, putting it though an ordinary power
transmission line will burn it out completely.
I was wondering more why the Dalek fleet needed a signal of any kind.
I'm pretty sure they know where Earth is and don't need to wait for
Dalek fleet: Well, we could send a huge horde of Daleks in and invade,
but what if they beat us?
Dalek: Don't worry, a thousand year old lone Dalek managed to annex the
entire planet so we don't need to worry that thousands won't get the job
done.
Fleet: Okay, that's reassuring. Just one question.
Dalek: Yes?
Fleet: If we've already annexed the planet, I guess we aren't actually needed there, right?
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Then ensures 10 more minutes of totally irrelevant mind numbing soap
opera
Evidently it's succeeded in numbing your mind completely. It wasn't soap
opera, it was a comic interlude - and a way to acknowledge that this was
a New Year's Day episode since otherwise the date had nothing at all to
do with anything.
which has no place at all in Doctor Who, about some woman's kids
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complaining about having no internet. But how come the lights are still on?
Lightbulbs don't require the internet.
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Fuck Chibnall and his stupid shit! All of the soap opera could have been
cut out completely and made no difference to the story.
That much is true, but it would have been, oh, 5 minutes shorter.
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After hearing about how the Dalek was originally destroyed--like this
was actually recorded as history, then how come no one else have even
heard of it?--
How come no one else has even heard of Daleks? Pretty sure they've been
a significant part of events on Earth that haven't been erased from
everyone's memory.
Whittaker emerges from the TARDIS under protection of a
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force field and using her magic dildo destroys the reconstructed Dalek
casing by melting it.
She turned the microwave on, you mean?
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But the Dalek creature survives and attaches itself to Ryan's Dad in the
TARDIS. So taking off to take it to the fleet--like how the fuck does
she know where it even is?-
She doesn't have to and the Dalek isn't bright enough to ask - or maybe
it gave her the coordinates.
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Another pile of stinking excrement shat from Chibnall's fucking kolos,
padded out with mind numbing irrelevant soap opera and proving Chibnall
has no idea how to write science fiction, can't write romance either,
and can't do humour at all,
The rels line was quite funny.
especially with a shit talent-less actress
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like Whittaker who still hasn't learned how to act, and she never will!
0/10
Now an 18 month long wait until the next series, because Chibnall wants
another fucking long holiday.
So, after ranting about how bad this series is and giving it a full 11
0/10 grades, you're now complaining about how long you have to wait for
the next one?
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This has been the worst series ever!
No, it's been consistently mediocre with one notable highlight and a
good special. That sets it well above the Moffatt seasons and several
classic seasons (Colin Baker's in particular).
Worst. Audiences are viewing this as the worst ever!

25% appreciation rate.
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The New Year's shit fest starts in 9th century England where Chibnall
shits over the face of history.
This has been the worst series ever!
No, it's been consistently mediocre with one notable highlight and a
good special. That sets it well above the Moffatt seasons and several
classic seasons (Colin Baker's in particular).
Worst. Audiences are viewing this as the worst ever!
25% appreciation rate.
24% now, and 19% for Resolution.
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2019-01-03 00:40:42 UTC
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The New Year's shit fest starts in 9th century England where Chibnall
shits over the face of history.
This has been the worst series ever!
No, it's been consistently mediocre with one notable highlight and a
good special. That sets it well above the Moffatt seasons and several
classic seasons (Colin Baker's in particular).
Worst. Audiences are viewing this as the worst ever!
25% appreciation rate.
24% now, and 19% for Resolution.
Watch Wilson and Bowles and Wilson go into spin mode.
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The New Year's shit fest starts in 9th century England where Chibnall
shits over the face of history.
The Anglo-Saxons have managed
Done up like Picts, for some reason.
to defeat a Dalek by melting its casing
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after placing or trapping it on a wooden pyre. How a wooden pyre can
melt something far stronger than iron which requires a temperature 1510
degrees C to melt, which can only be produced by a blast furnace, is
never explained.
You realise that smelting and steel production was well-known to the Anglo-Saxons, right? A campfire with sticks around it won't get there, but we never saw the Dalek being melted - just a later artist's interpretation of what happened (though said artist had a pretty good idea what a Dalek looked like).
But how do you get the Dalek to remain in the steel smelter long enough to melt it?
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Yet the Dalek metal case is seen completely melting,
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and like the Dalek kindly decides to stay in place without firing
The weapon has a minimum range since it juts out of the body. Not much a Dalek can do except roll away (or fly) if it's surrounded closer than that.
How does an army confronting the Dalek in a wide open space get close enough? I did see the Dalek fly after it rebuilt its casing!
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Afterwards the Dalek organism is split into three pieces and sent to all
four corners of the earth. Hum... All three corners of the earth. Um...
not quite corners.
why weren't the pieces simply cremated?
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It's probably about time you learned this, Aggy: The Earth doesn't have corners, it's a sphere. 'Corners of the Earth' is an expression not meant to be taken literally.
How they got to Oceania is a more significant question.
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Apparently at this time King Alfred or his court have diplomatic
relations with Siberia and sub-Saharan Africa, since one of the people
entrusted with this task looks Mongolian
The modern custodian is from a Siberian ethnic group - the one who was sent out was white. Just as the modern custodian on the island was Polynesian, unlike the one sent out. Seems fairly reasonable.
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Unfortunately for us, the woman entrusted with taking the 1/3 portion of
Dalek meat to Sheffield is shot dead before she can bury it like the
others.
Why would anyone in their right mind trust such a task to a feeble woman
in the first place? Why didn't they just let thing burn on the Pyre?
Misogyny is the best you've got, Aggy? More relevantly, why did they trust any of these to single individuals rather than groups - and why carry the pieces away that far in any case? It's not as though anyone was going to be using UV lights to bring them together in the 9th Century, and if it was chopped up it would otherwise make no difference if the bits were 2,000 miles from each other or 2.
The survivors were quite terrified of the Dalek.
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There's
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isn't enough power on the planet to send a detectable radio signal to
Alpha Centuri let alone to Skaro, and putting it though an ordinary
communications dish, fuck the dish, putting it though an ordinary power
transmission line will burn it out completely.
Dalek fleet: Well, we could send a huge horde of Daleks in and invade, but what if they beat us?
Dalek: Don't worry, a thousand year old lone Dalek managed to annex the entire planet so we don't need to worry that thousands won't get the job done.
Fleet: Okay, that's reassuring. Just one question.
Dalek: Yes?
Fleet: If we've already annexed the planet, I guess we aren't actually needed there, right?
The Dalek scout might not have known that Earth would be known to the Daleks by the 21st century!
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2019-01-03 00:39:10 UTC
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The New Year's shit fest starts in 9th century England where Chibnall
shits over the face of history.
The Anglo-Saxons have managed
Done up like Picts, for some reason.
to defeat a Dalek by melting its casing
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after placing or trapping it on a wooden pyre. How a wooden pyre can
melt something far stronger than iron which requires a temperature 1510
degrees C to melt, which can only be produced by a blast furnace, is
never explained.
You realise that smelting and steel production was well-known to the
Anglo-Saxons, right? A campfire with sticks around it won't get there,
but we never saw the Dalek being melted - just a later artist's
interpretation of what happened (though said artist had a pretty good
idea what a Dalek looked like).
But how do you get the Dalek to remain in the steel smelter long enough to melt it?
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Yet the Dalek metal case is seen completely melting,
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and like the Dalek kindly decides to stay in place without firing
The weapon has a minimum range since it juts out of the body. Not much
a Dalek can do except roll away (or fly) if it's surrounded closer than
that.
How does an army confronting the Dalek in a wide open space get close
enough? I did see the Dalek fly after it rebuilt its casing!
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Afterwards the Dalek organism is split into three pieces and sent to all
four corners of the earth. Hum... All three corners of the earth. Um...
not quite corners.
why weren't the pieces simply cremated?
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It's probably about time you learned this, Aggy: The Earth doesn't
have corners, it's a sphere. 'Corners of the Earth' is an expression not
meant to be taken literally.
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How they got to Oceania is a more significant question.
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Apparently at this time King Alfred or his court have diplomatic
relations with Siberia and sub-Saharan Africa, since one of the people
entrusted with this task looks Mongolian
The modern custodian is from a Siberian ethnic group - the one who was
sent out was white. Just as the modern custodian on the island was
Polynesian, unlike the one sent out. Seems fairly reasonable.
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Unfortunately for us, the woman entrusted with taking the 1/3 portion of
Dalek meat to Sheffield is shot dead before she can bury it like the
others.
Why would anyone in their right mind trust such a task to a feeble woman
in the first place? Why didn't they just let thing burn on the Pyre?
Misogyny is the best you've got, Aggy? More relevantly, why did they
trust any of these to single individuals rather than groups - and why
carry the pieces away that far in any case? It's not as though anyone
was going to be using UV lights to bring them together in the 9th
Century, and if it was chopped up it would otherwise make no difference
if the bits were 2,000 miles from each other or 2.
The survivors were quite terrified of the Dalek.
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There's
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isn't enough power on the planet to send a detectable radio signal to
Alpha Centuri let alone to Skaro, and putting it though an ordinary
communications dish, fuck the dish, putting it though an ordinary power
transmission line will burn it out completely.
I was wondering more why the Dalek fleet needed a signal of any kind.
I'm pretty sure they know where Earth is and don't need to wait for
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Dalek fleet: Well, we could send a huge horde of Daleks in and invade,
but what if they beat us?
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Dalek: Don't worry, a thousand year old lone Dalek managed to annex
the entire planet so we don't need to worry that thousands won't get the
job done.
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Fleet: Okay, that's reassuring. Just one question.
Dalek: Yes?
Fleet: If we've already annexed the planet, I guess we aren't actually
needed there, right?
The Dalek scout might not have known that Earth would be known to the
Daleks by the 21st century!
Well the whole plot stinks.
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The New Year's shit fest starts in 9th century England where
Chibnall shits over the face of history.
The Anglo-Saxons have managed
Done up like Picts, for some reason.
to defeat a Dalek by melting its casing
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after placing or trapping it on a wooden pyre. How a wooden pyre
can melt something far stronger than iron which requires a
temperature 1510 degrees C to melt, which can only be produced by a
blast furnace, is never explained.
You realise that smelting and steel production was well-known to the
Anglo-Saxons, right? A campfire with sticks around it won't get
They weren't capable of temperatures above 1200 C until the industrial
revolution, and what was seen was not a steel smelter.
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there, but we never saw the Dalek being melted - just a later
artist's interpretation of what happened (though said artist had a
pretty good idea what a Dalek looked like).
Yet the Dalek metal case is seen completely melting,
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and like the Dalek kindly decides to stay in place without firing
The weapon has a minimum range since it juts out of the body. Not
much a Dalek can do except roll away (or fly) if it's surrounded
closer than that.
What happened to it's electric shock mechanism? What happened to it
spinning and floating in the air?
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Afterwards the Dalek organism is split into three pieces and sent
to all four corners of the earth. Hum... All three corners of the
earth. Um... not quite corners.
It's probably about time you learned this, Aggy: The Earth doesn't
have corners, it's a sphere. 'Corners of the Earth' is an expression
not meant to be taken literally.
Corners of the Earth is a reference to the corners of the Earth on a
map. How many have you seen with three corners?
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How they got to Oceania is a more significant question.
I already mentioned that.
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Apparently at this time King Alfred or his court have diplomatic
relations with Siberia and sub-Saharan Africa, since one of the
people entrusted with this task looks Mongolian
The modern custodian is from a Siberian ethnic group - the one who
was sent out was white. Just as the modern custodian on the island
was Polynesian, unlike the one sent out. Seems fairly reasonable.
The one sent out was from sub-Saharan African. Where did he come from?
Don't say Roman times because there were no sub-Saharan Africans that
formed part of the Roman empire. The only time Africans set foot in
England was at the time of Gildas where the king of the Moors (or some
other Semitic origin northern Africans) formed part of an invasion force
of Britain and Ireland.
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Unfortunately for us, the woman entrusted with taking the 1/3
portion of Dalek meat to Sheffield is shot dead before she can bury
it like the others.
Why would anyone in their right mind trust such a task to a feeble
woman in the first place? Why didn't they just let thing burn on
the Pyre?
Misogyny is the best you've got, Aggy? More relevantly, why did they
Chibnall was misandristic against single fathers. Why haven't you said
anything about that?
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trust any of these to single individuals rather than groups - and why
carry the pieces away that far in any case? It's not as though anyone
was going to be using UV lights to bring them together in the 9th
Century, and if it was chopped up it would otherwise make no
difference if the bits were 2,000 miles from each other or 2.
You should be asking the question, since when can a dead life-form that
was split into three pieces teleport and then bring itself back to life?
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Chibnall proves that he doesn't have a clue how to write romance,
in trying to portray a relationship between a woman archaeologist
and some guy who's helping her out,
A man archaeologist, you mean?
Was it said he was an archaeologist?
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portrayed as whip of course, as is the order
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of things in Chibnall's SJW crap fests.
It was a couple of lines.
It was 10 minutes of mind numbing soap opera. Indiana Jones would have
been saving the female archaeologist, like in Raiders and Crusade.
That's how you portray a male protagonist without being sexist and
misandristic.
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Meanwhile another 20 minutes of irrelevant soap opera begins when
Ryan's dad comes to visit, and Graham being left along to talk to
him.
Also only a couple of minutes, but it was certainly shoehorned in and
out of place in an episode that finally gets to do a proper monster
romp. Ryan and Graham each have a good scene with the dad, but it's a
misplaced plot that doesn't really have a home in the episode, is
rushed despite being foreshadowed for the entirety of the last
season, and is wrapped up with a reconciliation conjured out of thin
air because the writer has no time to devote to giving it a proper
resolution.
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Back in the TARDIS Whittaker surmises that Sheffield is in danger
and lands the TARDIS at the archaeological site which is under the
town hall, and starts pointing her sonic dildo at everyone.
The woman archaeologist
Alternative phrases you can use here are the character's name, Lynne,
Her name wasn't even mentioned until 10 minutes before the end.
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or simply "the archaeologist" (since you've decided that the man
archaeologist is just her assistant or technician). Noting that she's
a woman adds nothing.
It tells you she's a woman and an archaeologist. We don't know exactly
what the man is tagging along with her is.
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The Dalek controlled archaeologist drives her car down a motorway
at high speed and is stopped by the police. She kills the police
officers with a Dalek gun.
If the gun is still working 1100 years later, then why didn't the
Dalek defend itself with it before?
It took armies to beat it - it can't shoot everything at once (though
They only had swords and bows and arrows. The Dalek would have massacred
them all floating in mid air. Look at what it could do in Dalek.
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the new torso missiles probably help). I wonder how it was powered
while not attached to the Dalek.
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So it's a Dalek, then. Everyone knew it was a fucking Dalek before
the episode even started, and worked out the entire plot. What does
Chibnall thinks he's don't by pretending that these some kind of
mystery.
Think back to 2005. There was a whole buildup to the reveal of the
mystery monster ... in an episode called "Dalek". It's pretty much a
The build up amounted to about 3 minutes before the titles. Everyone
knew what it was. The question was, was it still alive.
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convention with Dalek stories and any other involving a classic
monster: you know the Dalek will show up, the question is when it
will and when the Doctor will learn what he/she is up against.
The convention with Dalek stories is that you know it's the Daleks from
the start, so there's no mystery about what they are and therefore the
writer doesn't do mystery, they do threat, and there wasn't any kind of
threat to Whittaker in this episode, just like she has never been under
any real threat in any of the others she's been in.
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The
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brainless fool doesn't have a clue how to do mystery. It doesn't
work when the audience already knows what's coming.
He's making the mistake of assuming the audience isn't brainless and
understands the point. Unfortunately he hasn't counted on you
watching.
The only brainless fools are you and Chibnall, and the stupid cunt who
decided to entirely rewrite The ABC Murders by revealing who the villain
was at the start, giving it a completely different racist, SJW PC loony
plot, and changing all of Hercule Poirot's backstory and making him into
an ex-priest instead of an ex-detective. It's self-serving swollen
headed imbeciles like that who destroy literature, the arts, and
entertainment.
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So, Whittaker finally for once, decides to contact UNIT for once,
but UNIT has been disbanded in the UK because of Brexit. FOR FUCKS
BLOODY SAKE! Why does Chibnall think he's doing Little Britain?
Actually it was a comment on austerity (it was wound down because
there was no immediate perceived need for it) but it works for Brexit
as well. Satire is allowed in Dr Who, and this was well-judged and
didn't intrude on the plot - the story needed a reason for UNIT not
to be involved and this was an amusing way to do it.
It was a stupid unfunny Little Britain parody and excruciating to watch.
Computer says no.

There were already soldiers that got involved, so why couldn't they have
been UNIT? The kolos Chibnall could not resist doing politics.
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Then, using her magic powers,
That would be the lab in the TARDIS you just suggested she use.
But you didn't see her use the lab. It was Grahams kitchen.
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Whittaker manages to work out the location
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of the Dalek organism along with the archeologist from her mobile
phone signal. But the Dalek organism doesn't have a mobile phone so
how can she see that it's several meters away from the woman?
On the list of major Dr Who plotholes, I don't think "Daleks don't
use mobile phones" has ever previously come up.
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Just how fucking stupid does Chibnall think the audience are?
Not stupid enough, apparently, since he so continually overestimates
your ability to grasp the storyline of Dr Who episodes.
You call that steaming pile a garbage a storyline?
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There's
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isn't enough power on the planet to send a detectable radio signal
to Alpha Centuri let alone to Skaro, and putting it though an
ordinary communications dish, fuck the dish, putting it though an
ordinary power transmission line will burn it out completely.
I was wondering more why the Dalek fleet needed a signal of any kind.
I'm pretty sure they know where Earth is and don't need to wait for
Dalek fleet: Well, we could send a huge horde of Daleks in and
invade, but what if they beat us?
Dalek: Don't worry, a thousand year old lone Dalek managed to annex
the entire planet so we don't need to worry that thousands won't get
the job done.
Fleet: Okay, that's reassuring. Just one question.
Dalek: Yes?
Fleet: If we've already annexed the planet, I guess we aren't
actually needed there, right?
The real question is, why did the Dalek even get involved in a fight
with sword wielding locals? It should have assessed the planet from
orbit and figured out that there was no advanced technology on there,
and thus sent a signal to the fleet to invade. If went missing without
reporting then the fleet should have sent another Dalek to find it and
report.
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Then ensures 10 more minutes of totally irrelevant mind numbing
soap opera
Evidently it's succeeded in numbing your mind completely. It wasn't
soap opera, it was a comic interlude - and a way to acknowledge that
this was a New Year's Day episode since otherwise the date had
nothing at all to do with anything.
It was stupid, insulting, and irreverent mind numbing soap opera.
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which has no place at all in Doctor Who, about some woman's kids
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complaining about having no internet. But how come the lights are still on?
Lightbulbs don't require the internet.
The internet doesn't power radio communications dishes. Why would the
internet have even gone down at all? You are aware that the entire
telephone system has been powered by batteries since it was first
conceived?
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Fuck Chibnall and his stupid shit! All of the soap opera could have
been cut out completely and made no difference to the story.
That much is true, but it would have been, oh, 5 minutes shorter.
You missed out a 0. 50 minutes shorter.
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After hearing about how the Dalek was originally destroyed--like
this was actually recorded as history, then how come no one else
have even heard of it?--
How come no one else has even heard of Daleks? Pretty sure they've
been a significant part of events on Earth that haven't been erased
from everyone's memory.
You have the fools RTD and Moffat to thank for that stupidity.
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Whittaker emerges from the TARDIS under protection of a
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force field and using her magic dildo destroys the reconstructed
Dalek casing by melting it.
She turned the microwave on, you mean?
Since when can microwave ovens melt centimeter thick steel plate? How
come microwave ovens don't all melt when you use them?
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But the Dalek creature survives and attaches itself to Ryan's Dad
in the TARDIS. So taking off to take it to the fleet--like how the
fuck does she know where it even is?-
She doesn't have to and the Dalek isn't bright enough to ask - or
maybe it gave her the coordinates.
You mean Chibnall isn't bright enough to write a credible plot.
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Another pile of stinking excrement shat from Chibnall's fucking
kolos, padded out with mind numbing irrelevant soap opera and
proving Chibnall has no idea how to write science fiction, can't
write romance either, and can't do humour at all,
The rels line was quite funny.
No it wasn't. It made Whittaker look like she had fallen foul of
dementia. The talentless actress can't do humour so she sounds like a fool.
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especially with a shit talent-less actress
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like Whittaker who still hasn't learned how to act, and she never will!
0/10
Now an 18 month long wait until the next series, because Chibnall
wants another fucking long holiday.
So, after ranting about how bad this series is and giving it a full
11 0/10 grades, you're now complaining about how long you have to
wait for the next one?
I am complaining why Chibnall and Whittaker still haven been sacked, and
why I have to wait another 18 months for that to happen.
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This has been the worst series ever!
No, it's been consistently mediocre with one notable highlight and a
good special. That sets it well above the Moffatt seasons and several
classic seasons (Colin Baker's in particular).
It was complete and utter crap. Capaldi managed 5.7 million for his
festive special. Whittaker only managed 5.15. Now that we can compare
like with like, it is clear that if Doctor Who had continued to be shown
on a Saturday that Series 11 would have had much lower ratings than
Series 10.
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there, but we never saw the Dalek being melted - just a later
artist's interpretation of what happened (though said artist had a
pretty good idea what a Dalek looked like).
Yet the Dalek metal case is seen completely melting,
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and like the Dalek kindly decides to stay in place without firing
The weapon has a minimum range since it juts out of the body. Not
much a Dalek can do except roll away (or fly) if it's surrounded
closer than that.
What happened to it's electric shock mechanism?
What electric shock mechanism? The only time I can recall a Dalek using electric shocks was in Dalek, when it had to flood the floor and just fired its gun into the water. There was no separate weapon, it just used the water's conductivity to allow its gun (whose discharges are apparently electrical, not a laser as Whittaker says in this episode) to fry everyone simultaneously.

Unless it could persuade everyone to stand in a big pond, I don't think that's likely to work in the 9th Century.

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spinning and floating in the air?
What would that accomplish? In any case, while we know the weapon was intact and charged because Lynne was able to use it without the Dalek attached, we don't know what state the flight engines were in - we didn't see those until the Dalek was rebuilt. They could plausibly have malfunctioned, run out of power, or been damaged with a lucky hit that prevented it from escaping.
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Apparently at this time King Alfred or his court have diplomatic
relations with Siberia and sub-Saharan Africa, since one of the
people entrusted with this task looks Mongolian
The modern custodian is from a Siberian ethnic group - the one who
was sent out was white. Just as the modern custodian on the island
was Polynesian, unlike the one sent out. Seems fairly reasonable.
The one sent out was from sub-Saharan African. Where did he come from?
Sub-Saharan Africa? Didn't the episode say that armies came from a wide area to attack the Dalek?
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Don't say Roman times because there were no sub-Saharan Africans that
formed part of the Roman empire. The only time Africans set foot in
England was at the time of Gildas where the king of the Moors (or some
other Semitic origin northern Africans) formed part of an invasion force
of Britain and Ireland.
Um, what? There were no Moors in Europe in the 6th Century, and even if there had been and they'd visited Britain that by itself would demonstrate that it's possible for African armies could have reached the island.

Here's another secret, Aggy: There was no Dalek in 9th Century England. If there had been, and it had required overseas allies to defeat, it's entirely internally consistent to imagine foreign armies in Britain when none existed in reality.
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Unfortunately for us, the woman entrusted with taking the 1/3
portion of Dalek meat to Sheffield is shot dead before she can bury
it like the others.
Why would anyone in their right mind trust such a task to a feeble
woman in the first place? Why didn't they just let thing burn on
the Pyre?
Misogyny is the best you've got, Aggy? More relevantly, why did they
Chibnall was misandristic against single fathers. Why haven't you said
anything about that?
Because he wasn't and misandristic still isn't a word? While calling a woman 'feeble' because she's capable of being killed by an arrow (just like, say, a man) is textbook misogyny.
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trust any of these to single individuals rather than groups - and why
carry the pieces away that far in any case? It's not as though anyone
was going to be using UV lights to bring them together in the 9th
Century, and if it was chopped up it would otherwise make no
difference if the bits were 2,000 miles from each other or 2.
You should be asking the question, since when can a dead life-form that
was split into three pieces teleport and then bring itself back to life?
No I shouldn't, for the simple reason that it doesn't make any sense for it to have survived for 1,100 years however many pieces it's cut into. If you can buy one part of that, why not the other?
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Chibnall proves that he doesn't have a clue how to write romance,
in trying to portray a relationship between a woman archaeologist
and some guy who's helping her out,
A man archaeologist, you mean?
Was it said he was an archaeologist?
Was it said she was? They were doing archaeology, and were evidently colleagues (hence the talk of the office party - you don't bring part-time assistants to office parties), so it seems as reasonable an inference for him as for her.
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of things in Chibnall's SJW crap fests.
It was a couple of lines.
It was 10 minutes of mind numbing soap opera. Indiana Jones would have
been saving the female archaeologist, like in Raiders and Crusade.
That's how you portray a male protagonist without being sexist and
misandristic.
Indiana Jones is sexist, but that's the point - the entire idea of Indiana Jones was to recreate the adventure stories of the 1920s, and there was none of this modern rubbish about imposing modern values on older storytelling. It was actually possible to appreciate things for what they were in context without getting up in arms about political undertones - though you wouldn't appreciate that since you spend your life just looking for political undertones to get upset about, especially ones that aren't actually there.

Not that sexism was particularly out of the ordinary then - this was still the era of James Bond close to its height, of screaming female companions in Dr Who, and only a few years on from the Carry Ons.
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The woman archaeologist
Alternative phrases you can use here are the character's name, Lynne,
Her name wasn't even mentioned until 10 minutes before the end.
Pretty sure it was mentioned right at the start by the man archaeologist (Mitch).
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The Dalek controlled archaeologist drives her car down a motorway
at high speed and is stopped by the police. She kills the police
officers with a Dalek gun.
If the gun is still working 1100 years later, then why didn't the
Dalek defend itself with it before?
It took armies to beat it - it can't shoot everything at once (though
They only had swords and bows and arrows. The Dalek would have massacred
them all floating in mid air. Look at what it could do in Dalek.
In Dalek it used the technology of an advanced base against the soldiers, there weren't many soldiers, and they were in narrow corridors.

Daleks have been beaten with umbrellas in Dr Who before now - enough people getting close to them with swords would be sufficient, I'd imagine. Think how often Daleks are defeated by people damaging the eye-stalk.

Though I think the custodians should have considered upgrading their weapons over the centuries if they're supposed to be protecting their pieces from other humans.
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the new torso missiles probably help). I wonder how it was powered
while not attached to the Dalek.
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So it's a Dalek, then. Everyone knew it was a fucking Dalek before
the episode even started, and worked out the entire plot. What does
Chibnall thinks he's don't by pretending that these some kind of
mystery.
Think back to 2005. There was a whole buildup to the reveal of the
mystery monster ... in an episode called "Dalek". It's pretty much a
The build up amounted to about 3 minutes before the titles. Everyone
knew what it was. The question was, was it still alive.
The buildup in the episode continued longer than that, until Adam described it as a pepperpot just before the Doctor's encounter with it. The question, as here, was 'when will the reveal come and what will the Doctor's reaction be?'. It remains one of the best monster reveals in Dr Who despite not being at all unexpected.

You already complained, not unjustifiably, that this episode tries to clone Dalek - so why are you now claiming that it's different?
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convention with Dalek stories and any other involving a classic
monster: you know the Dalek will show up, the question is when it
will and when the Doctor will learn what he/she is up against.
The convention with Dalek stories is that you know it's the Daleks from
the start, so there's no mystery about what they are and therefore the
writer doesn't do mystery, they do threat, and there wasn't any kind of
threat to Whittaker in this episode, just like she has never been under
any real threat in any of the others she's been in.
How often were Matt Smith or Peter Capaldi ever at any apparent risk to their lives? That's something that's largely been lost from Dr Who.
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So, Whittaker finally for once, decides to contact UNIT for once,
but UNIT has been disbanded in the UK because of Brexit. FOR FUCKS
BLOODY SAKE! Why does Chibnall think he's doing Little Britain?
Actually it was a comment on austerity (it was wound down because
there was no immediate perceived need for it) but it works for Brexit
as well. Satire is allowed in Dr Who, and this was well-judged and
didn't intrude on the plot - the story needed a reason for UNIT not
to be involved and this was an amusing way to do it.
It was a stupid unfunny Little Britain parody and excruciating to watch.
Computer says no.
You realise 'computer says no' was itself Little Britain parodying office functionaries? Telling the same joke isn't the same as copying Little Britain, and it was reasonably well-done for what it was.
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There were already soldiers that got involved, so why couldn't they have
been UNIT? The kolos Chibnall could not resist doing politics.
For that scene to work the soldiers needed not to know what a Dalek was. Also, the UNIT connection was that the Doctor knows Kate Stewart, and either they didn't want to bring the actress back for the special or they decided they wanted the Doctor not to have her or UNIT's support for the plot. So why not do it this way instead of come up with something about her being stuck in South America or whatever?
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Then, using her magic powers,
That would be the lab in the TARDIS you just suggested she use.
But you didn't see her use the lab. It was Grahams kitchen.
She was tracking the Dalek on the TARDIS console.
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Just how fucking stupid does Chibnall think the audience are?
Not stupid enough, apparently, since he so continually overestimates
your ability to grasp the storyline of Dr Who episodes.
You call that steaming pile a garbage a storyline?
Whatever you think of its quality it was undeniably a storyline. Dalek gets chopped up, chopped up Dalek gets excavated and reawoken, reassembled Dalek tries to communicate to its fleet. Doctor and co. work out what it's up to and stop it.

There, storyline.
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The real question is, why did the Dalek even get involved in a fight
with sword wielding locals?
It's a Dalek. It likes exterminating, and is arrogant enough to imagine it can take out a whole planet by itself (or, if Eccleston's correct, is actually capable of doing so with a much more advanced version of the same planet).
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That much is true, but it would have been, oh, 5 minutes shorter.
You missed out a 0.
Okay, 0.5 minutes shorter.
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After hearing about how the Dalek was originally destroyed--like
this was actually recorded as history, then how come no one else
have even heard of it?--
How come no one else has even heard of Daleks? Pretty sure they've
been a significant part of events on Earth that haven't been erased
from everyone's memory.
You have the fools RTD and Moffat to thank for that stupidity.
So why complain about Chibnall? I keep pointing out Moffatt's stuff was the problem.
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But the Dalek creature survives and attaches itself to Ryan's Dad
in the TARDIS. So taking off to take it to the fleet--like how the
fuck does she know where it even is?-
She doesn't have to and the Dalek isn't bright enough to ask - or
maybe it gave her the coordinates.
You mean Chibnall isn't bright enough to write a credible plot.
He's writing a Dr Who plot. If you want credibility you've been watching the wrong series since Hartnell left.
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This has been the worst series ever!
No, it's been consistently mediocre with one notable highlight and a
good special. That sets it well above the Moffatt seasons and several
classic seasons (Colin Baker's in particular).
It was complete and utter crap. Capaldi managed 5.7 million for his
festive special. Whittaker only managed 5.15.
Not bad given how different viewing figures would be between Christmas and New Year.
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there, but we never saw the Dalek being melted - just a later
artist's interpretation of what happened (though said artist had a
pretty good idea what a Dalek looked like).
Yet the Dalek metal case is seen completely melting,
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and like the Dalek kindly decides to stay in place without firing
The weapon has a minimum range since it juts out of the body. Not
much a Dalek can do except roll away (or fly) if it's surrounded
closer than that.
What happened to it's electric shock mechanism?
What electric shock mechanism? The only time I can recall a Dalek using electric shocks was in Dalek, when it had to flood the floor and just fired its gun into the water. There was no separate weapon, it just used the water's conductivity to allow its gun (whose discharges are apparently electrical, not a laser as Whittaker says in this episode) to fry everyone simultaneously.
Unless it could persuade everyone to stand in a big pond, I don't think that's likely to work in the 9th Century.
Simple. Put Dalek on other side of river from army. Let army enter river. Fire Dalek gun into river.
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spinning and floating in the air?
What would that accomplish? In any case, while we know the weapon was intact and charged because Lynne was able to use it without the Dalek attached, we don't know what state the flight engines were in - we didn't see those until the Dalek was rebuilt. They could plausibly have malfunctioned, run out of power, or been damaged with a lucky hit that prevented it from escaping.
If Dalek in air, its enemies can't get close enough to melt it or chop it up!
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there, but we never saw the Dalek being melted - just a later
artist's interpretation of what happened (though said artist had a
pretty good idea what a Dalek looked like).
Yet the Dalek metal case is seen completely melting,
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and like the Dalek kindly decides to stay in place without firing
The weapon has a minimum range since it juts out of the body. Not
much a Dalek can do except roll away (or fly) if it's surrounded
closer than that.
What happened to it's electric shock mechanism?
What electric shock mechanism? The only time I can recall a Dalek
using electric shocks was in Dalek, when it had to flood the floor and
just fired its gun into the water. There was no separate weapon, it just
used the water's conductivity to allow its gun (whose discharges are
apparently electrical, not a laser as Whittaker says in this episode) to
fry everyone simultaneously.
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Unless it could persuade everyone to stand in a big pond, I don't
think that's likely to work in the 9th Century.
Simple. Put Dalek on other side of river from army. Let army enter
river. Fire Dalek gun into river.
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spinning and floating in the air?
What would that accomplish? In any case, while we know the weapon was
intact and charged because Lynne was able to use it without the Dalek
attached, we don't know what state the flight engines were in - we
didn't see those until the Dalek was rebuilt. They could plausibly have
malfunctioned, run out of power, or been damaged with a lucky hit that
prevented it from escaping.
If Dalek in air, its enemies can't get close enough to melt it or chop it up!
Still how strong were those ropes pre-10th Century?
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there, but we never saw the Dalek being melted - just a later
artist's interpretation of what happened (though said artist had
a pretty good idea what a Dalek looked like).
Yet the Dalek metal case is seen completely melting,
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and like the Dalek kindly decides to stay in place without
firing
The weapon has a minimum range since it juts out of the body.
Not much a Dalek can do except roll away (or fly) if it's
surrounded closer than that.
What happened to it's electric shock mechanism?
What electric shock mechanism? The only time I can recall a Dalek
The one that killed everyone that touched the Dalek in 2012, except Rose
because she was a time traveler.
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using electric shocks was in Dalek, when it had to flood the floor
and just fired its gun into the water. There was no separate weapon,
it just used the water's conductivity to allow its gun (whose
discharges are apparently electrical, not a laser as Whittaker says
in this episode) to fry everyone simultaneously.
Nothing to do with that.
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Unless it could persuade everyone to stand in a big pond, I don't
think that's likely to work in the 9th Century.
Or it rained.
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spinning and floating in the air?
What would that accomplish? In any case, while we know the weapon was
Because then they could only shoot at it with bows and arrows, and the
Daleks would be totally stupid if they designed a blaster that had less
range than an arrow fired up into the air.
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intact and charged because Lynne was able to use it without the Dalek
attached, we don't know what state the flight engines were in - we
didn't see those until the Dalek was rebuilt. They could plausibly
have malfunctioned, run out of power, or been damaged with a lucky
hit that prevented it from escaping.
Since they obviously had power and worked when the Dalek was rebuilt as
did the weapon, and the national grid wouldn't have been able to
recharge either of them--like how much power do you need to anti-gravity
these days?--they were obviously still working back in the 9th century.
And an arrow isn't going to do any damage to an armour plated Dalek case.
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Apparently at this time King Alfred or his court have
diplomatic relations with Siberia and sub-Saharan Africa, since
one of the people entrusted with this task looks Mongolian
The modern custodian is from a Siberian ethnic group - the one
who was sent out was white. Just as the modern custodian on the
island was Polynesian, unlike the one sent out. Seems fairly
reasonable.
The one sent out was from sub-Saharan African. Where did he come from?
Sub-Saharan Africa? Didn't the episode say that armies came from a
wide area to attack the Dalek?
Given that sub-Saharan Africa didn't posses any ships at the time, or
even steal weapons, let alone armour, how did they get there and what
use would they have been? How come there are no traces of them today?
And how the hell would they have been gathered in time? Did king Alfred
telephone the king of; were there even any sub-Saharan African states
beyond isolated tribes, in existence at the time, that even had large
enough armies or could even unify their people? Just how stupid does
Chibnall think the audience is?
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Don't say Roman times because there were no sub-Saharan Africans
that formed part of the Roman empire. The only time Africans set
foot in England was at the time of Gildas where the king of the
Moors (or some other Semitic origin northern Africans) formed part
of an invasion force of Britain and Ireland.
Um, what? There were no Moors in Europe in the 6th Century, and even
if there had been and they'd visited Britain that by itself would
demonstrate that it's possible for African armies could have reached
the island.
This was a northern African army composed of mainly Semitic peoples,
controlled as a client state of the Byzantine empire.
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Here's another secret, Aggy: There was no Dalek in 9th Century
England. If there had been, and it had required overseas allies to
defeat, it's entirely internally consistent to imagine foreign armies
in Britain when none existed in reality.
No it isn't. How did they get there by sea, since obviously they didn't
swim? How long did it take to build the ships? How were the soldiers
enlisted when the only standing armies that were capable of doing such a
ting were controlled by the Franks and Byzantines? And what the fuck was
the Dalek doing during this time? It' wouldn't have waited for them to
assemble. It would have gone back to its ship and reported that Earth
was ripe for invasion and conquest. What the fuck happened to its ship
anyway? If the arsehole Chibnall had concentrated on answering these
questions, instead of inflicting irrelevant mind numbing soap opera on
the audience, then it might have been a good episode. The man is a fool
and doesn't have the remotest clue how to write anything properly.
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Unfortunately for us, the woman entrusted with taking the 1/3
portion of Dalek meat to Sheffield is shot dead before she can
bury it like the others.
Why would anyone in their right mind trust such a task to a
feeble woman in the first place? Why didn't they just let thing
burn on the Pyre?
Misogyny is the best you've got, Aggy? More relevantly, why did they
Chibnall was misandristic against single fathers. Why haven't you
said anything about that?
Because he wasn't and misandristic still isn't a word? While calling
Misandristic is a word and you know exactly what it means. Why does
Chibnall have to portray men as unfit parents? It's another of his
sexist and racist PC stereotypes. Gay people are even complaining about
the episode being homophobic because Chibnall decided to make one of the
security guards gay and then had the Dalek exterminate him after
revealing that he was gay. The man is a fool with his sexist and racist
agenda pushing.
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a woman 'feeble' because she's capable of being killed by an arrow
(just like, say, a man) is textbook misogyny.
No it isn't. Women are feeble. That's how they evolved. They don't have
either the strength, stamina, or agility of men. Recruiting female
soldiers and putting them in active combat roles is misogynistic and
puts people's lives at risk, and this is what we saw happen.
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trust any of these to single individuals rather than groups - and
why carry the pieces away that far in any case? It's not as
though anyone was going to be using UV lights to bring them
together in the 9th Century, and if it was chopped up it would
otherwise make no difference if the bits were 2,000 miles from
each other or 2.
You should be asking the question, since when can a dead life-form
that was split into three pieces teleport and then bring itself
back to life?
No I shouldn't, for the simple reason that it doesn't make any sense
for it to have survived for 1,100 years however many pieces it's cut
into. If you can buy one part of that, why not the other?
I'm not buying any of it. Which part of it contained its brain? How did
the others teleport without a brain? How did they even communicate?
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Chibnall proves that he doesn't have a clue how to write
romance, in trying to portray a relationship between a woman
archaeologist and some guy who's helping her out,
A man archaeologist, you mean?
Was it said he was an archaeologist?
Was it said she was? They were doing archaeology, and were evidently
Yes.
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part-time assistants to office parties), so it seems as reasonable an
Yes you do. Even interns get to attend office parties.
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inference for him as for her.
No it doesn't.
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of things in Chibnall's SJW crap fests.
It was a couple of lines.
It was 10 minutes of mind numbing soap opera. Indiana Jones would
have been saving the female archaeologist, like in Raiders and
Crusade. That's how you portray a male protagonist without being
sexist and misandristic.
Indiana Jones is sexist, but that's the point - the entire idea of
Indiana Jones is not sexist. You are sexist in thinking so.
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Indiana Jones was to recreate the adventure stories of the 1920s, and
H. Rider Haggard was earlier than that.
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there was none of this modern rubbish about imposing modern values on
older storytelling. It was actually possible to appreciate things for
what they were in context without getting up in arms about political
undertones - though you wouldn't appreciate that since you spend your
life just looking for political undertones to get upset about,
especially ones that aren't actually there.
Oh you mean like the viewers who found Resolution to be homophobic? The
entire PC agenda is based on illogical and irrational ideology which is
why it has to be condemned and routed out.
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Not that sexism was particularly out of the ordinary then - this was
still the era of James Bond close to its height, of screaming female
companions in Dr Who, and only a few years on from the Carry Ons.
And that was all good and healthy, and it made people feel included and
taught them to think rationally and logically. A man was stronger than a
woman and therefore it was right for him to protect her. A woman was
weaker than a man and therefore it was logically for her to scream for
help. Only a stupid woman would try to fight alone. Only a cowardly man
would not come to her assistance. That was what was moral and right and
what advanced society and civilization, not the degenerate society and
civilization we have today because of political correctness.
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The woman archaeologist
Alternative phrases you can use here are the character's name, Lynne,
Her name wasn't even mentioned until 10 minutes before the end.
Pretty sure it was mentioned right at the start by the man
archaeologist (Mitch).
No. We got his name at the start, not hers.
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The Dalek controlled archaeologist drives her car down a
motorway at high speed and is stopped by the police. She kills
the police officers with a Dalek gun.
If the gun is still working 1100 years later, then why didn't
the Dalek defend itself with it before?
It took armies to beat it - it can't shoot everything at once (though
They only had swords and bows and arrows. The Dalek would have
massacred them all floating in mid air. Look at what it could do in
Dalek.
In Dalek it used the technology of an advanced base against the
soldiers, there weren't many soldiers, and they were in narrow
corridors.
Daleks have been beaten with umbrellas in Dr Who before now - enough
people getting close to them with swords would be sufficient, I'd
No it wouldn't. The Dalek would never have let anyone get close to it.
This one was supposed to be more powerful than any other Daleks we've
seen before.
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imagine. Think how often Daleks are defeated by people damaging the
eye-stalk.
Was it shown to have a damaged eye stalk? It was working fine when it
was rebuilt. Why didn't Chibnall show how the Dalek was actually
defeated given how powerful it was, instead of wasting 50 minutes on
irrelevant mind numbing soap opera? It's supposed to be a science
fiction show after all, not Coronation Street.
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Though I think the custodians should have considered upgrading their
weapons over the centuries if they're supposed to be protecting their
pieces from other humans.
Why didn't they just burn them? They could have even taken them to a
nuclear test site and had them nuked.
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the new torso missiles probably help). I wonder how it was
powered while not attached to the Dalek.
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So it's a Dalek, then. Everyone knew it was a fucking Dalek
before the episode even started, and worked out the entire
plot. What does Chibnall thinks he's don't by pretending that
these some kind of mystery.
Think back to 2005. There was a whole buildup to the reveal of
the mystery monster ... in an episode called "Dalek". It's pretty
much a
The build up amounted to about 3 minutes before the titles.
Everyone knew what it was. The question was, was it still alive.
The buildup in the episode continued longer than that, until Adam
described it as a pepperpot just before the Doctor's encounter with
it. The question, as here, was 'when will the reveal come and what
will the Doctor's reaction be?'. It remains one of the best monster
reveals in Dr Who despite not being at all unexpected.
What? Everyone was expecting it from the very beginning. It was terrible.
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You already complained, not unjustifiably, that this episode tries to
clone Dalek - so why are you now claiming that it's different?
It was badly written rubbish compared to Dalek, and Dalek did not need
to be remade. Chibnall has totally run out of ideas and it's taken him
far less time to run out of them than Moffat did.
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convention with Dalek stories and any other involving a classic
monster: you know the Dalek will show up, the question is when
it will and when the Doctor will learn what he/she is up
against.
The convention with Dalek stories is that you know it's the Daleks
from the start, so there's no mystery about what they are and
therefore the writer doesn't do mystery, they do threat, and there
wasn't any kind of threat to Whittaker in this episode, just like
she has never been under any real threat in any of the others she's
been in.
How often were Matt Smith or Peter Capaldi ever at any apparent risk
to their lives? That's something that's largely been lost from Dr
Who.
Whittaker has never been at any apparent risk ever. She's a total joke.
She doesn't even meet the Dalek face to fact until the last 10 minutes.
Eccleston met it in the first 10.
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So, Whittaker finally for once, decides to contact UNIT for
once, but UNIT has been disbanded in the UK because of Brexit.
FOR FUCKS BLOODY SAKE! Why does Chibnall think he's doing
Little Britain?
Actually it was a comment on austerity (it was wound down
because there was no immediate perceived need for it) but it
works for Brexit as well. Satire is allowed in Dr Who, and this
was well-judged and didn't intrude on the plot - the story needed
a reason for UNIT not to be involved and this was an amusing way
to do it.
It was a stupid unfunny Little Britain parody and excruciating to
watch. Computer says no.
You realise 'computer says no' was itself Little Britain parodying
office functionaries? Telling the same joke isn't the same as copying
Little Britain, and it was reasonably well-done for what it was.
It was complete and utter crap, and shows that Chibnall has run out of
original ideas.
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There were already soldiers that got involved, so why couldn't they
have been UNIT? The kolos Chibnall could not resist doing
politics.
For that scene to work the soldiers needed not to know what a Dalek
was. Also, the UNIT connection was that the Doctor knows Kate
Stewart, and either they didn't want to bring the actress back for
the special or they decided they wanted the Doctor not to have her or
UNIT's support for the plot. So why not do it this way instead of
come up with something about her being stuck in South America or
whatever?
So instead Chibnall comes out with political crap against Brexit which
is far worse. Kate Steward didn't even need to be mentioned. The never
needed her in the Sontaran Poison Sky story.
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Then, using her magic powers,
That would be the lab in the TARDIS you just suggested she use.
But you didn't see her use the lab. It was Grahams kitchen.
She was tracking the Dalek on the TARDIS console.
Since when has the TARDIS been able to track Daleks by their DNA? It was
all tosh.
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Just how fucking stupid does Chibnall think the audience are?
Not stupid enough, apparently, since he so continually
overestimates your ability to grasp the storyline of Dr Who
episodes.
You call that steaming pile a garbage a storyline?
Whatever you think of its quality it was undeniably a storyline.
Dalek gets chopped up, chopped up Dalek gets excavated and reawoken,
reassembled Dalek tries to communicate to its fleet. Doctor and co.
work out what it's up to and stop it.
There, storyline.
No. How can a chopped up Dalek teleport it self and then glue itself
back together again? Scientifically explaining how that can possibly
happen in a manner that does not involve what amounts to magic is a
storyline. In other words have people discover the parts in a state of
undecaying preservation, transport them to one place, and then stitch
them back together and reanimate them, like Frankenstein's monster.
That's how you do science fiction, not a fucking moronic 50 minute long
irrelevant soap opera about Ryan's dad returning home.
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The real question is, why did the Dalek even get involved in a
fight with sword wielding locals?
It's a Dalek. It likes exterminating, and is arrogant enough to
imagine it can take out a whole planet by itself (or, if Eccleston's
correct, is actually capable of doing so with a much more advanced
version of the same planet).
So why didn't it conquer the 9th century Anglo-Saxons? Explaining that
is where the story lies, not in Chibnall's moronic political jibes and
misandry. The man is a fool. He doesn't have a clue how to write science
fiction or where to put the emphasis.
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That much is true, but it would have been, oh, 5 minutes
shorter.
You missed out a 0.
Okay, 0.5 minutes shorter.
No. 50. No decimal point but a full stop.
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After hearing about how the Dalek was originally
destroyed--like this was actually recorded as history, then how
come no one else have even heard of it?--
How come no one else has even heard of Daleks? Pretty sure
they've been a significant part of events on Earth that haven't
been erased from everyone's memory.
You have the fools RTD and Moffat to thank for that stupidity.
So why complain about Chibnall? I keep pointing out Moffatt's stuff was the problem.
Chibnall didn't fix it but made it worse.
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But the Dalek creature survives and attaches itself to Ryan's
Dad in the TARDIS. So taking off to take it to the fleet--like
how the fuck does she know where it even is?-
She doesn't have to and the Dalek isn't bright enough to ask -
or maybe it gave her the coordinates.
You mean Chibnall isn't bright enough to write a credible plot.
He's writing a Dr Who plot. If you want credibility you've been
watching the wrong series since Hartnell left.
Doctor Who plots were perfectly credible and well written before the
Colin Bakers second series, and even the Sylvester McCoy era was far
better written than anything Chibnall has shat out in the past series.
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This has been the worst series ever!
No, it's been consistently mediocre with one notable highlight
and a good special. That sets it well above the Moffatt seasons
and several classic seasons (Colin Baker's in particular).
It was complete and utter crap. Capaldi managed 5.7 million for
his festive special. Whittaker only managed 5.15.
Not bad given how different viewing figures would be between
Christmas and New Year.
And yet David Tennant manged to get 10 million viewers on New Year's
Day, but Whittaker can barely reach half of that.
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there, but we never saw the Dalek being melted - just a later
artist's interpretation of what happened (though said artist had
a pretty good idea what a Dalek looked like).
Yet the Dalek metal case is seen completely melting,
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and like the Dalek kindly decides to stay in place without firing
The weapon has a minimum range since it juts out of the body.
Not much a Dalek can do except roll away (or fly) if it's
surrounded closer than that.
What happened to it's electric shock mechanism?
What electric shock mechanism? The only time I can recall a Dalek
The one that killed everyone that touched the Dalek in 2012, except Rose
because she was a time traveler.
Don't remember that at all.
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What happened to it
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spinning and floating in the air?
What would that accomplish? In any case, while we know the weapon was
Because then they could only shoot at it with bows and arrows, and the
Daleks would be totally stupid if they designed a blaster that had less
range than an arrow fired up into the air.
They could shoot it from below, right up into the exposed exhausts...
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intact and charged because Lynne was able to use it without the Dalek
attached, we don't know what state the flight engines were in - we
didn't see those until the Dalek was rebuilt. They could plausibly
have malfunctioned, run out of power, or been damaged with a lucky
hit that prevented it from escaping.
Since they obviously had power and worked when the Dalek was rebuilt as
did the weapon, and the national grid wouldn't have been able to
recharge either of them--like how much power do you need to anti-gravity
these days?--they were obviously still working back in the 9th century.
My point is that anything could have been repaired when the Dalek is being rebuilt. The only thing we know was still functional after the Dalek was dismantled is the gun - it could have had a damaged eyestalk or engines that were repaired with the patch-up job.
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And an arrow isn't going to do any damage to an armour plated Dalek case.
In Hartnell's era people were able to pick up and dismantle Daleks by hand - an arrow's probably dangerous enough.
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The one sent out was from sub-Saharan African. Where did he come from?
Sub-Saharan Africa? Didn't the episode say that armies came from a
wide area to attack the Dalek?
Given that sub-Saharan Africa didn't posses any ships at the time, or
even steal weapons,
Why would they need to steal any weapons? Also, why would they need ships any more sophisticated than the ones they possessed back in Africa? Most travel in that period was overland, and if they were allied with mainlanders they could have used their ships.

let alone armour, how did they get there and what
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use would they have been? How come there are no traces of them today?
a) Because it didn't happen since there was no Dalek to fight. That doesn't mean it couldn't have happened.

b) We know hardly anything about population movements to and from the UK in this or earlier periods. We do know that far earlier people were moving in from the continent (such as Stonehenge builders from the mainland) and we know that many Anglo-Saxon burial goods were manufactured in mainland Europe (and possibly Egypt, as one Sutton Hoo artefact may be Coptic) and in a small number of cases from Asia (eastern Byzantine).
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And how the hell would they have been gathered in time? Did king Alfred
telephone the king of; were there even any sub-Saharan African states
beyond isolated tribes, in existence at the time, that even had large
enough armies or could even unify their people? Just how stupid does
Chibnall think the audience is?
Did you read the timeline I helpfully provided in another threat? The Africans had states, they reached the Iron Age 4-6 centuries later than the Europeans (i.e. it had been established for about a milennium by the 9th Century), and they had steel (though not hardened steel).

It wasn't until well into the Middle Ages that European cultures developed significantly more advanced technology and more centralised forms of government than those in sub-Saharan Africa and the main technological advance that allowed the Europeans to become dominant - the caravel - was both much later and not relevant to armies' performance in the field.
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Don't say Roman times because there were no sub-Saharan Africans
that formed part of the Roman empire. The only time Africans set
foot in England was at the time of Gildas where the king of the
Moors (or some other Semitic origin northern Africans) formed part
of an invasion force of Britain and Ireland.
Um, what? There were no Moors in Europe in the 6th Century, and even
if there had been and they'd visited Britain that by itself would
demonstrate that it's possible for African armies could have reached
the island.
This was a northern African army composed of mainly Semitic peoples,
controlled as a client state of the Byzantine empire.
Nope, the Byzantines never invaded Britain either. Have you been reading some fantasy like Geoffrey of Monmouth again and imagining that it represents reality? If you like that sort of historical fiction might I recommend Harry Harrison's Hammer and the Cross? It's marginally more plausible.
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Here's another secret, Aggy: There was no Dalek in 9th Century
England. If there had been, and it had required overseas allies to
defeat, it's entirely internally consistent to imagine foreign armies
in Britain when none existed in reality.
No it isn't. How did they get there by sea, since obviously they didn't
swim?
How did anyone get to the island by sea?
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Unfortunately for us, the woman entrusted with taking the 1/3
portion of Dalek meat to Sheffield is shot dead before she can
bury it like the others.
Why would anyone in their right mind trust such a task to a
feeble woman in the first place? Why didn't they just let thing
burn on the Pyre?
Misogyny is the best you've got, Aggy? More relevantly, why did they
Chibnall was misandristic against single fathers. Why haven't you
said anything about that?
Because he wasn't and misandristic still isn't a word? While calling
Misandristic is a word and you know exactly what it means. Why does
Chibnall have to portray men as unfit parents?
What about Ryan's mother? I don't know if we were ever told where she is/was.

Gay people are even complaining about
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the episode being homophobic because Chibnall decided to make one of the
security guards gay and then had the Dalek exterminate him after
revealing that he was gay.
That sounds like nonsense.
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trust any of these to single individuals rather than groups - and
why carry the pieces away that far in any case? It's not as
though anyone was going to be using UV lights to bring them
together in the 9th Century, and if it was chopped up it would
otherwise make no difference if the bits were 2,000 miles from
each other or 2.
You should be asking the question, since when can a dead life-form
that was split into three pieces teleport and then bring itself
back to life?
No I shouldn't, for the simple reason that it doesn't make any sense
for it to have survived for 1,100 years however many pieces it's cut
into. If you can buy one part of that, why not the other?
I'm not buying any of it. Which part of it contained its brain? How did
the others teleport without a brain? How did they even communicate?
Space magic, of course. It's a millennium-old alien that manages to reassemble itself through some sort of internal teleporter - it's not intended to be over-analysed.
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colleagues (hence the talk of the office party - you don't bring
part-time assistants to office parties), so it seems as reasonable an
Yes you do. Even interns get to attend office parties.
Scientists don't have their field assistants in the office in the first place. Only people who work in a building tend to be invited to Christmas parties.

In any case why are you imagining Lynne was in charge? Mitch thanks her for coming in on her day off and he's the one with the background knowledge of the Dalek 'myth' and who apparently found the body. It seems he was leading the dig.
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It was 10 minutes of mind numbing soap opera. Indiana Jones would
have been saving the female archaeologist, like in Raiders and
Crusade. That's how you portray a male protagonist without being
sexist and misandristic.
Indiana Jones is sexist, but that's the point - the entire idea of
Indiana Jones is not sexist. You are sexist in thinking so.
That isn't how it works, Aggy. Even if Indiana Jones weren't sexist, it isn't somehow magically sexist to suggest that it is.
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Indiana Jones was to recreate the adventure stories of the 1920s, and
H. Rider Haggard was earlier than that.
Indiana Jones was based on films of his and related work, whose heyday was the '20s and '30s, not on the source novels.
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there was none of this modern rubbish about imposing modern values on
older storytelling. It was actually possible to appreciate things for
what they were in context without getting up in arms about political
undertones - though you wouldn't appreciate that since you spend your
life just looking for political undertones to get upset about,
especially ones that aren't actually there.
Oh you mean like the viewers who found Resolution to be homophobic?
You, apparently, so yes.

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entire PC agenda is based on illogical and irrational ideology which is
why it has to be condemned and routed out.
As I've pointed out multiple times, you have exactly the same mindset as your imagined 'PC agenda' - trying to find an excuse to be offended about everything, however inoffensive, and trying to impose an imagined moral absolute onto work produced in a completely different context where that judgment is wholly inappropriate.

So naturally I should condemn you and root you out.
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Not that sexism was particularly out of the ordinary then - this was
still the era of James Bond close to its height, of screaming female
companions in Dr Who, and only a few years on from the Carry Ons.
And that was all good and healthy, and it made people feel included and
taught them to think rationally and logically.
If the Carry Ons were a formative influence in teaching you to think rationally and logically, I think we've discovered where your warped understanding of 'reason' and 'logic' comes from.

See, this is where both you and your imagined foes with the 'PC agenda' are falling into the same mindset and making the same mistake.

The "PC lobby" cries "sexist" about something like the Carry Ons and insists that therefore it is to be condemned puritanically and can't be enjoyed for what it is for fear of endorsing a regressive attitude.

You spout gibberish about something like Dr Who and claim that therefore it is to be condemned puritanically for fear that enjoying something that treats women or black people vaguely realistically would threaten your misogynistic and racist world view.

Neither of you engages with the reality that it is possible to both understand that something has attitudes presently considered regressive and to appreciate for what it is, and that enjoying something doesn't entail endorsing the attitudes that produced it.

Which when you think of it is at odds with the way people mostly interact with most other media - you don't have to be a monarchist or religious to like 'God Save the Queen', you don't have to be a redneck to enjoy country music which expresses right-wing attitudes, you don't have to be a junkie to enjoy 'Starman', you don't have to be religious to appreciate art pieces with religious themes, etc. etc.

A man was stronger than a
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woman and therefore it was right for him to protect her. A woman was
weaker than a man and therefore it was logically for her to scream for
help.
Where did I say this had anything to do with physical threats? Relatively speaking the strength differences between human sexes are fairly trivial - against other humans in a combat situation a woman will struggle against male opponents when both are unarmed, but that has nothing to do with screaming at monsters or the like. A man isn't going to be any better at defeating a Cyberman in physical combat than a woman - conversely a smaller monster is as easy for a woman to defeat in a physical encounter as a man.

And once weapons come into the equation that equalise men and women, either because they're being attacked at range where physical strength is not an issue or because the human character is armed with a ranged weapon, that becomes completely irrelevant.
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The woman archaeologist
Alternative phrases you can use here are the character's name, Lynne,
Her name wasn't even mentioned until 10 minutes before the end.
Pretty sure it was mentioned right at the start by the man
archaeologist (Mitch).
No. We got his name at the start, not hers.
Fairly sure he said 'Hi Lynne' when she was introduced, but at the very least he mentioned her name when the Doctor showed up. That was far earlier than 10 minutes from the end.
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In Dalek it used the technology of an advanced base against the
soldiers, there weren't many soldiers, and they were in narrow
corridors.
Daleks have been beaten with umbrellas in Dr Who before now - enough
people getting close to them with swords would be sufficient, I'd
No it wouldn't. The Dalek would never have let anyone get close to it.
This one was supposed to be more powerful than any other Daleks we've
seen before.
It can still be heavily outnumbered. We've never seen more than a handful of people in combat with a Dalek at once because Dr Who doesn't spend that much on extras.
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imagine. Think how often Daleks are defeated by people damaging the
eye-stalk.
Was it shown to have a damaged eye stalk? It was working fine when it
was rebuilt.
Operative phrase: "When it was rebuilt".

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defeated given how powerful it was,
Because it wasn't relevant to the story and he wanted to save the actual showing of an encased Dalek until late in the episode.
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the new torso missiles probably help). I wonder how it was
powered while not attached to the Dalek.
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So it's a Dalek, then. Everyone knew it was a fucking Dalek
before the episode even started, and worked out the entire
plot. What does Chibnall thinks he's don't by pretending that
these some kind of mystery.
Think back to 2005. There was a whole buildup to the reveal of
the mystery monster ... in an episode called "Dalek". It's pretty
much a
The build up amounted to about 3 minutes before the titles.
Everyone knew what it was. The question was, was it still alive.
The buildup in the episode continued longer than that, until Adam
described it as a pepperpot just before the Doctor's encounter with
it. The question, as here, was 'when will the reveal come and what
will the Doctor's reaction be?'. It remains one of the best monster
reveals in Dr Who despite not being at all unexpected.
What? Everyone was expecting it from the very beginning. It was terrible.
I meant the reveal in Dalek was one of the best in Dr Who, not this episode. Of course everyone was expecting it - that's precisely my point. It's the way it happens and when that makes the reveal work, not learning what the monster is. We know there will always be a monster, and usually when it's a returning one we know which one it is well in advance because that's how the BBC does its advertising.
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You already complained, not unjustifiably, that this episode tries to
clone Dalek - so why are you now claiming that it's different?
It was badly written rubbish compared to Dalek,
Dalek was very good. It's not a slight on this episode that it's not as good - and it does something novel with the Dalek that even that episode didn't do despite the similarity of the premise.

Chibnall has totally run out of ideas and it's taken him
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far less time to run out of them than Moffat did.
Moffatt was redoing The Empty Child on an annual basis or more frequently ever since he took over. He ran out of ideas after Blink, before he ever took control of the show.
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The convention with Dalek stories is that you know it's the Daleks
from the start, so there's no mystery about what they are and
therefore the writer doesn't do mystery, they do threat, and there
wasn't any kind of threat to Whittaker in this episode, just like
she has never been under any real threat in any of the others she's
been in.
How often were Matt Smith or Peter Capaldi ever at any apparent risk
to their lives? That's something that's largely been lost from Dr
Who.
Whittaker has never been at any apparent risk ever.
No. My point was that that's also the case for other recent Doctors. It's the way the stories are now written.
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There were already soldiers that got involved, so why couldn't they
have been UNIT? The kolos Chibnall could not resist doing
politics.
For that scene to work the soldiers needed not to know what a Dalek
was. Also, the UNIT connection was that the Doctor knows Kate
Stewart, and either they didn't want to bring the actress back for
the special or they decided they wanted the Doctor not to have her or
UNIT's support for the plot. So why not do it this way instead of
come up with something about her being stuck in South America or
whatever?
So instead Chibnall comes out with political crap against Brexit which
is far worse.
Why? It was fairly funny and it's not as though anyone whose opinions are worth caring about gets upset about digs at Brexit. The entire thing is farcical in both concept and execution - if anything making jokes about it is just too easy a target.

Kate Steward didn't even need to be mentioned. The never
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needed her in the Sontaran Poison Sky story.
She was a Moffatt creation - the character hadn't been introduced in The Poison Sky and the then-Doctor had no established relationship with the UNIT of the 21st Century. The Doctor hadn't worked with anyone from UNIT since the '80s at that point.
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She was tracking the Dalek on the TARDIS console.
Since when has the TARDIS been able to track Daleks by their DNA?
Since it's needed to for plot purposes, of course. When has the Doctor previously had a sample of the specific Dalek he/she's tracking to use?

It was
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all tosh.
Once again, it's Dr Who. If you're expecting it to be anything else you've been watching the wrong series for decades.
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You call that steaming pile a garbage a storyline?
Whatever you think of its quality it was undeniably a storyline.
Dalek gets chopped up, chopped up Dalek gets excavated and reawoken,
reassembled Dalek tries to communicate to its fleet. Doctor and co.
work out what it's up to and stop it.
There, storyline.
No. How can a chopped up Dalek teleport it self and then glue itself
back together again?
Doesn't matter as far as the storyline's concerned. It can and that's what matters.

Scientifically explaining how that can possibly
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happen in a manner that does not involve what amounts to magic is a
storyline.
No, that's not a storyline. It doesn't progress the plot to invent exposition to explain the backstory.

In other words have people discover the parts in a state of
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undecaying preservation, transport them to one place, and then stitch
them back together and reanimate them, like Frankenstein's monster.
Or you can have a dormant Dalek being passed between collectors for years until it gets reactivated by contact with the Doctor in van Statten's lab. Yes, the Dalek-in-pieces version is a lot harder to swallow but that does nothing to affect the actual storyline or the underlying concept: Dormant Dalek is present on Earth, something reactivates it, Dalek goes on the rampage.

It's exactly the same storyline in both Dalek and Resolution - the fact that Dalek gives a more sensible backstory is neither here nor there.
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That's how you do science fiction, not a fucking moronic 50 minute long
irrelevant soap opera about Ryan's dad returning home.
Still only about three scenes however much you claim it was '50 minutes long'.
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After hearing about how the Dalek was originally
destroyed--like this was actually recorded as history, then how
come no one else have even heard of it?--
How come no one else has even heard of Daleks? Pretty sure
they've been a significant part of events on Earth that haven't
been erased from everyone's memory.
You have the fools RTD and Moffat to thank for that stupidity.
So why complain about Chibnall? I keep pointing out Moffatt's stuff was the problem.
Chibnall didn't fix it but made it worse.
Essentially completely disregarding the Moffatt era and writing a story about a Dalek that isn't dependent on whatever magic powers Moffatt gave them, on Moffatt's UNIT characters, or on the weirdly convoluted alien invasions that everyone on Earth is by now aware of is a definite improvement in my book. It lets Chibnall tell a straightforward Dalek story without caring about obscure continuity while Moffatt was all fanwank and self-congratulatory reuse of his own inventions from start to finish.
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He's writing a Dr Who plot. If you want credibility you've been
watching the wrong series since Hartnell left.
Doctor Who plots were perfectly credible and well written before the
Colin Bakers second series, and even the Sylvester McCoy era was far
better written than anything Chibnall has shat out in the past series.
I'll just leave this here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VvZ-VaeB5g

There's a reason the new Who Honest Trailer ends with this sequence...
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Not bad given how different viewing figures would be between
Christmas and New Year.
And yet David Tennant manged to get 10 million viewers on New Year's
Day, but Whittaker can barely reach half of that.
Hardly a fair comparison and you know it. That was at the height of Dr Who's popularity, Tennant was easily the most popular Doctor of the modern era, and that episode was part of the same story as the Christmas episode so people were tuning in to see how it concluded.
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there, but we never saw the Dalek being melted - just a later
artist's interpretation of what happened (though said artist had
a pretty good idea what a Dalek looked like).
Yet the Dalek metal case is seen completely melting,
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and like the Dalek kindly decides to stay in place without firing
The weapon has a minimum range since it juts out of the body.
Not much a Dalek can do except roll away (or fly) if it's
surrounded closer than that.
What happened to it's electric shock mechanism?
What electric shock mechanism? The only time I can recall a Dalek
The one that killed everyone that touched the Dalek in 2012, except Rose
because she was a time traveler.
Don't remember that at all.
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spinning and floating in the air?
What would that accomplish? In any case, while we know the weapon was
Because then they could only shoot at it with bows and arrows, and the
Daleks would be totally stupid if they designed a blaster that had less
range than an arrow fired up into the air.
They could shoot it from below, right up into the exposed exhausts...
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intact and charged because Lynne was able to use it without the Dalek
attached, we don't know what state the flight engines were in - we
didn't see those until the Dalek was rebuilt. They could plausibly
have malfunctioned, run out of power, or been damaged with a lucky
hit that prevented it from escaping.
Since they obviously had power and worked when the Dalek was rebuilt as
did the weapon, and the national grid wouldn't have been able to
recharge either of them--like how much power do you need to anti-gravity
these days?--they were obviously still working back in the 9th century.
My point is that anything could have been repaired when the Dalek is being rebuilt. The only thing we know was still functional after the Dalek was dismantled is the gun - it could have had a damaged eyestalk or engines that were repaired with the patch-up job.
Are you thinking that the Dalek was damaged in a spaceship crash?
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And an arrow isn't going to do any damage to an armour plated Dalek case.
And how the hell would they have been gathered in time? Did king Alfred
telephone the king of; were there even any sub-Saharan African states
beyond isolated tribes, in existence at the time, that even had large
enough armies or could even unify their people? Just how stupid does
Chibnall think the audience is?
Did you read the timeline I helpfully provided in another threat? The Africans had states, they reached the Iron Age 4-6 centuries later than the Europeans (i.e. it had been established for about a milennium by the 9th Century), and they had steel (though not hardened steel).
You made a threat? Against whom?
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Misandristic is a word and you know exactly what it means. Why does
Chibnall have to portray men as unfit parents?
What about Ryan's mother? I don't know if we were ever told where she is/was.
She died several years ago.
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there, but we never saw the Dalek being melted - just a later
artist's interpretation of what happened (though said artist had
a pretty good idea what a Dalek looked like).
Yet the Dalek metal case is seen completely melting,
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and like the Dalek kindly decides to stay in place without firing
The weapon has a minimum range since it juts out of the body.
Not much a Dalek can do except roll away (or fly) if it's
surrounded closer than that.
What happened to it's electric shock mechanism?
What electric shock mechanism? The only time I can recall a Dalek
The one that killed everyone that touched the Dalek in 2012, except Rose
because she was a time traveler.
Don't remember that at all.
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spinning and floating in the air?
What would that accomplish? In any case, while we know the weapon was
Because then they could only shoot at it with bows and arrows, and the
Daleks would be totally stupid if they designed a blaster that had less
range than an arrow fired up into the air.
They could shoot it from below, right up into the exposed exhausts...
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intact and charged because Lynne was able to use it without the Dalek
attached, we don't know what state the flight engines were in - we
didn't see those until the Dalek was rebuilt. They could plausibly
have malfunctioned, run out of power, or been damaged with a lucky
hit that prevented it from escaping.
Since they obviously had power and worked when the Dalek was rebuilt as
did the weapon, and the national grid wouldn't have been able to
recharge either of them--like how much power do you need to anti-gravity
these days?--they were obviously still working back in the 9th century.
My point is that anything could have been repaired when the Dalek is
being rebuilt. The only thing we know was still functional after the
Dalek was dismantled is the gun - it could have had a damaged eyestalk
or engines that were repaired with the patch-up job.
Are you thinking that the Dalek was damaged in a spaceship crash?
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And an arrow isn't going to do any damage to an armour plated Dalek case.
And how the hell would they have been gathered in time? Did king Alfred
telephone the king of; were there even any sub-Saharan African states
beyond isolated tribes, in existence at the time, that even had large
enough armies or could even unify their people? Just how stupid does
Chibnall think the audience is?
Did you read the timeline I helpfully provided in another threat? The
Africans had states, they reached the Iron Age 4-6 centuries later than
the Europeans (i.e. it had been established for about a milennium by the
9th Century), and they had steel (though not hardened steel).
You made a threat? Against whom?
Hmm....
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Misandristic is a word and you know exactly what it means. Why does
Chibnall have to portray men as unfit parents?
What about Ryan's mother? I don't know if we were ever told where she is/was.
She died several years ago.
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there, but we never saw the Dalek being melted - just a later
artist's interpretation of what happened (though said artist
had a pretty good idea what a Dalek looked like).
Yet the Dalek metal case is seen completely melting,
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and like the Dalek kindly decides to stay in place without firing
The weapon has a minimum range since it juts out of the body.
Not much a Dalek can do except roll away (or fly) if it's
surrounded closer than that.
What happened to it's electric shock mechanism?
What electric shock mechanism? The only time I can recall a
Dalek
The one that killed everyone that touched the Dalek in 2012,
except Rose because she was a time traveler.
Don't remember that at all.
It was right at the start of the episode. One of Vanwhatshisname's men
was electrocuted when he touched the Dalek, and then he sent Rose to do
the same thing.
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What happened to it
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spinning and floating in the air?
What would that accomplish? In any case, while we know the
weapon was
Because then they could only shoot at it with bows and arrows, and
the Daleks would be totally stupid if they designed a blaster that
had less range than an arrow fired up into the air.
They could shoot it from below, right up into the exposed
exhausts...
Not if it was out of range. Arrows don't travel very far.
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intact and charged because Lynne was able to use it without the
Dalek attached, we don't know what state the flight engines were
in - we didn't see those until the Dalek was rebuilt. They could
plausibly have malfunctioned, run out of power, or been damaged
with a lucky hit that prevented it from escaping.
Since they obviously had power and worked when the Dalek was
rebuilt as did the weapon, and the national grid wouldn't have
been able to recharge either of them--like how much power do you
need to anti-gravity these days?--they were obviously still working
back in the 9th century.
My point is that anything could have been repaired when the Dalek is
being rebuilt.
With what? Did the Dalek get women archaeologist to build a sonic dildo
too? Did she have access to a Dalek chip fabrication plant too?
The only thing we know was still functional after the
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Dalek was dismantled is the gun - it could have had a damaged
eyestalk or engines that were repaired with the patch-up job.
Repaired with what? Have you ever tried repairing modern electronic
equipment? It's virtually impossible without specialized tools,
software, and spare parts from the original manufacturers.
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And an arrow isn't going to do any damage to an armour plated
Dalek case.
In Hartnell's era people were able to pick up and dismantle Daleks
by hand - an arrow's probably dangerous enough.
No it isn't. An arrow can't dismantle a Dalek casing and can't penetrate
armour plating.
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The one sent out was from sub-Saharan African. Where did he
come from?
Sub-Saharan Africa? Didn't the episode say that armies came from
a wide area to attack the Dalek?
Given that sub-Saharan Africa didn't posses any ships at the time,
or even steal weapons,
Why would they need to steal any weapons? Also, why would they need
You think they fought the Dalek with wooden spears and bows and arrows?
They would have all been massacred.
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ships any more sophisticated than the ones they possessed back in
Africa?
They didn't posses any ships at all. ZILCH!
Most travel in that period was overland, and if they were
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allied with mainlanders they could have used their ships.
Oh so they walked from Africa across the Mediterranean sea to Spain and
then walked across the English Channel? Yer, right.
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let alone armour, how did they get there and what
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use would they have been? How come there are no traces of them today?
a) Because it didn't happen since there was no Dalek to fight. That
doesn't mean it couldn't have happened.
The Dalek would have massacred millions and year no evidence of bodies
or burials or camp sites or human waste even exists.
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b) We know hardly anything about population movements to and from
the UK in this or earlier periods. We do know that far earlier
Oh yes we bloody well do. Read Gildas, the Anglo-Saxon Chronicles, the
Irish Chronicles, Bede, and there's lots of other texts to supplement
them too.
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people were moving in from the continent (such as Stonehenge builders
from the mainland) and we know that many Anglo-Saxon burial goods
were manufactured in mainland Europe (and possibly Egypt, as one
Sutton Hoo artefact may be Coptic) and in a small number of cases
from Asia (eastern Byzantine).
What we know is that there were no sub-Saharan Africans that set foot in
Britain at the time, or at any time before the slave trade. Historical
revisionism is racism.
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And how the hell would they have been gathered in time? Did king
Alfred telephone the king of; were there even any sub-Saharan
African states beyond isolated tribes, in existence at the time,
that even had large enough armies or could even unify their
people? Just how stupid does Chibnall think the audience is?
Did you read the timeline I helpfully provided in another threat?
The Africans had states, they reached the Iron Age 4-6 centuries
later than the Europeans (i.e. it had been established for about a
milennium by the 9th Century), and they had steel (though not
hardened steel).
There was no iron smelting in West sub-Saharan Africa until after 1000 AD.
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It wasn't until well into the Middle Ages that European cultures
developed significantly more advanced technology and more
centralised forms of government than those in sub-Saharan Africa and
You are talking absolute crap. Europeans developed complex civilization
since 2000 BC and it has been continuous ever since. The Egyptians
developed it 1000 years earlier but this had nothing to do with
sub-Saharan Africa which had no complex civilization whatsoever until
medieval times and militarily was millennia behind Europe.
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the main technological advance that allowed the Europeans to become
dominant - the caravel - was both much later and not relevant to
armies' performance in the field.
The caravel was an ocean going ship and had no relevance to anything
except the re-discovery of the Americans. What gave Europeans the
advantage over Egypt and Mesopotamia was was the use of Bronze and then
Iron, by around 2000 BC, when the Egyptians were still using copper. By
about 700 BC Europe had surpassed Egypt, Mesopotamia, and even Asia. The
caravel wasn't what allowed Europeans to conquer north and south
America, it was the gun, and a gun used by a Dalek would have made mince
meat of knights in shining armour.
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Don't say Roman times because there were no sub-Saharan
Africans that formed part of the Roman empire. The only time
Africans set foot in England was at the time of Gildas where
the king of the Moors (or some other Semitic origin northern
Africans) formed part of an invasion force of Britain and
Ireland.
Um, what? There were no Moors in Europe in the 6th Century, and
even if there had been and they'd visited Britain that by itself
would demonstrate that it's possible for African armies could
have reached the island.
This was a northern African army composed of mainly Semitic
peoples, controlled as a client state of the Byzantine empire.
Nope, the Byzantines never invaded Britain either. Have you been
reading some fantasy like Geoffrey of Monmouth again and imagining
that it represents reality? If you like that sort of historical
fiction might I recommend Harry Harrison's Hammer and the Cross?
It's marginally more plausible.
You are totally deranged and don't have the remotest clue about history.
After the fall of the Western Roman Empire, the island of Ireland
remained a client state of the Byzantines until around 1200 AD. Northern
Africa was composed of client states of the Byzantines until the time of
the Muslims in 650 BC when it was taken over by the Arabs.
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Here's another secret, Aggy: There was no Dalek in 9th Century
England. If there had been, and it had required overseas allies
to defeat, it's entirely internally consistent to imagine
foreign armies in Britain when none existed in reality.
No it isn't. How did they get there by sea, since obviously they
didn't swim?
How did anyone get to the island by sea?
Yes, how did they get there by sea without swimming? They would have
needed ships, and they didn't have any.
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Unfortunately for us, the woman entrusted with taking the
1/3 portion of Dalek meat to Sheffield is shot dead before
she can bury it like the others.
Why would anyone in their right mind trust such a task to a
feeble woman in the first place? Why didn't they just let
thing burn on the Pyre?
Misogyny is the best you've got, Aggy? More relevantly, why did they
Chibnall was misandristic against single fathers. Why haven't
you said anything about that?
Because he wasn't and misandristic still isn't a word? While
calling
Misandristic is a word and you know exactly what it means. Why does
Chibnall have to portray men as unfit parents?
What about Ryan's mother? I don't know if we were ever told where she is/was.
She died.
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Gay people are even complaining about
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the episode being homophobic because Chibnall decided to make one
of the security guards gay and then had the Dalek exterminate him
after revealing that he was gay.
That sounds like nonsense.
It's a fact.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/8106801/doctor-who-homophobic-killing-off-gay-character/
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trust any of these to single individuals rather than groups
- and why carry the pieces away that far in any case? It's
not as though anyone was going to be using UV lights to
bring them together in the 9th Century, and if it was chopped
up it would otherwise make no difference if the bits were
2,000 miles from each other or 2.
You should be asking the question, since when can a dead
life-form that was split into three pieces teleport and then
bring itself back to life?
No I shouldn't, for the simple reason that it doesn't make any
sense for it to have survived for 1,100 years however many
pieces it's cut into. If you can buy one part of that, why not
the other?
I'm not buying any of it. Which part of it contained its brain?
How did the others teleport without a brain? How did they even
communicate?
Space magic, of course. It's a millennium-old alien that manages to
reassemble itself through some sort of internal teleporter - it's
not intended to be over-analysed.
Why would it have three teleporters built into it? If there was only one
of them how did it locate the other parts. What kept all the parts
alive? Chibnall shat out absolute crap in viewers faces. It's his job as
a writer to explain what he wrote, not cut it irrelevant mind numbing
soap opera.
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colleagues (hence the talk of the office party - you don't bring
part-time assistants to office parties), so it seems as
reasonable an
Yes you do. Even interns get to attend office parties.
Scientists don't have their field assistants in the office in the
first place. Only people who work in a building tend to be invited
to Christmas parties.
Twaddle. The field assistant would have been employed by the same
institution as the archaeologist, so would have been invited to the
office party.
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In any case why are you imagining Lynne was in charge? Mitch thanks
her for coming in on her day off and he's the one with the
background knowledge of the Dalek 'myth' and who apparently found the
body. It seems he was leading the dig.
He obviously needed instruction and explanation. And the Dalek myth was
only mentioned in the last 10 minutes, because Chibnall doesn't have a
fucking clue how to do exposition.
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It was 10 minutes of mind numbing soap opera. Indiana Jones
would have been saving the female archaeologist, like in
Raiders and Crusade. That's how you portray a male protagonist
without being sexist and misandristic.
Indiana Jones is sexist, but that's the point - the entire idea of
Indiana Jones is not sexist. You are sexist in thinking so.
That isn't how it works, Aggy. Even if Indiana Jones weren't sexist,
it isn't somehow magically sexist to suggest that it is.
Indiana Jones was not sexist. If you think he was it is up to you the
one making the claim of sexism to provide proof.
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Indiana Jones was to recreate the adventure stories of the
1920s, and
H. Rider Haggard was earlier than that.
Indiana Jones was based on films of his and related work, whose
heyday was the '20s and '30s, not on the source novels.
Indiana Jones was based by George Lucas on the source novels of Haggard
and Stevenson just like Star Wars was based on the source novels of E.
E. Smith and Edgar Rice Burroughs and the Flash Gordon comic strips. The
movies of the 20s, 30s, and 40s were secondary sources.
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there was none of this modern rubbish about imposing modern
values on older storytelling. It was actually possible to
appreciate things for what they were in context without getting
up in arms about political undertones - though you wouldn't
appreciate that since you spend your life just looking for
political undertones to get upset about, especially ones that
aren't actually there.
Oh you mean like the viewers who found Resolution to be
homophobic?
You, apparently, so yes.
So you think it's ok for Chibnall to be homophobic then?
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The
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entire PC agenda is based on illogical and irrational ideology
which is why it has to be condemned and routed out.
As I've pointed out multiple times, you have exactly the same
mindset as your imagined 'PC agenda' - trying to find an excuse to
be offended about everything, however inoffensive, and trying to
impose an imagined moral absolute onto work produced in a completely
different context where that judgment is wholly inappropriate.
So naturally I should condemn you and root you out.
You are deranged. Chibnall's work is racist, sexist, and homophobic
because of the disgusting PC agenda he is trying to impose on the
viewers. Had he not tried to impose this disgusting agenda then he
wouldn't have offended anyone or alienated most of the fanbase.
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Not that sexism was particularly out of the ordinary then - this
was still the era of James Bond close to its height, of
screaming female companions in Dr Who, and only a few years on
from the Carry Ons.
And that was all good and healthy, and it made people feel
included and taught them to think rationally and logically.
If the Carry Ons were a formative influence in teaching you to think
rationally and logically, I think we've discovered where your warped
understanding of 'reason' and 'logic' comes from.
The Carry On films were all logically though out and will be remembered
as classics, unlike the crap produced by Chibnall.
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See, this is where both you and your imagined foes with the 'PC
agenda' are falling into the same mindset and making the same
mistake.
You are deluding yourself.
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The "PC lobby" cries "sexist" about something like the Carry Ons and
insists that therefore it is to be condemned puritanically and can't
be enjoyed for what it is for fear of endorsing a regressive
attitude.
You spout gibberish about something like Dr Who and claim that
therefore it is to be condemned puritanically for fear that enjoying
something that treats women or black people vaguely realistically
would threaten your misogynistic and racist world view.
It doesn't treat women and black people realistically. It thinks that
ticks boxes solves the underlying problems, when it fact it makes them
worse, and thereby insults everyone's intelligence including black
people and women, and now Chibnall by his box ticking is insulting
homosexual. The man is a bigoted fool.

The Carry On films on the other hand were not made to tick boxes on
someones political agenda. They were made to entertain. Ticking boxes to
fill racist, sexist, and homosexual quotas isn't entertainment and
serves no one.
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A man was stronger than a
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woman and therefore it was right for him to protect her. A woman
was weaker than a man and therefore it was logically for her to
scream for help.
Where did I say this had anything to do with physical threats?
Relatively speaking the strength differences between human sexes are
fairly trivial - against other humans in a combat situation a woman
will struggle against male opponents when both are unarmed, but that
has nothing to do with screaming at monsters or the like. A man
isn't going to be any better at defeating a Cyberman in physical
combat than a woman - conversely a smaller monster is as easy for a
woman to defeat in a physical encounter as a man.
A woman has the intelligence to scream for help when she is confronted
by a threat. A man does not. Classic Doctor Who reflected reality and
human psychology. Chibnall's PC crap does not and that's why it's vile
and repulsive.
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And once weapons come into the equation that equalise men and women,
either because they're being attacked at range where physical
strength is not an issue or because the human character is armed
with a ranged weapon, that becomes completely irrelevant.
A man can fire a bigger bow over a longer range than a woman, and a man
can draw a heavier and more powerful gun faster and hold it stiller for
the next shot.

The playing field only becomes even when you start to pay others who are
most qualified to do your dirty work for you.
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The woman archaeologist
Alternative phrases you can use here are the character's
name, Lynne,
Her name wasn't even mentioned until 10 minutes before the
end.
Pretty sure it was mentioned right at the start by the man
archaeologist (Mitch).
No. We got his name at the start, not hers.
Fairly sure he said 'Hi Lynne' when she was introduced, but at the
very least he mentioned her name when the Doctor showed up. That was
far earlier than 10 minutes from the end.
Whittaker does noting in this episode until 10 minutes before the end,
just like in every episode.
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In Dalek it used the technology of an advanced base against the
soldiers, there weren't many soldiers, and they were in narrow
corridors.
Daleks have been beaten with umbrellas in Dr Who before now -
enough people getting close to them with swords would be
sufficient, I'd
No it wouldn't. The Dalek would never have let anyone get close to
it. This one was supposed to be more powerful than any other
Daleks we've seen before.
It can still be heavily outnumbered. We've never seen more than a
handful of people in combat with a Dalek at once because Dr Who
doesn't spend that much on extras.
The Dalek doesn't care if it's outnumbered. All it has to do is fly to
safety.
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imagine. Think how often Daleks are defeated by people damaging
the eye-stalk.
Was it shown to have a damaged eye stalk? It was working fine when
it was rebuilt.
Operative phrase: "When it was rebuilt".
How was it rebuilt if it was damaged? Do you know of any stores that
sell space Dalek eye stalks?
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Why didn't Chibnall show how the Dalek was actually
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defeated given how powerful it was,
Because it wasn't relevant to the story and he wanted to save the
It was the most relevant part of the story, and the only thing that
would have provided the elements of the a story.
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actual showing of an encased Dalek until late in the episode.
He wanted to write mind numbing soap opera because he doesn't have a
clue how to write exposition.
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the new torso missiles probably help). I wonder how it was
powered while not attached to the Dalek.
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So it's a Dalek, then. Everyone knew it was a fucking Dalek
before the episode even started, and worked out the entire
plot. What does Chibnall thinks he's don't by pretending
that these some kind of mystery.
Think back to 2005. There was a whole buildup to the reveal
of the mystery monster ... in an episode called "Dalek".
It's pretty much a
The build up amounted to about 3 minutes before the titles.
Everyone knew what it was. The question was, was it still
alive.
The buildup in the episode continued longer than that, until Adam
described it as a pepperpot just before the Doctor's encounter
with it. The question, as here, was 'when will the reveal come
and what will the Doctor's reaction be?'. It remains one of the
best monster reveals in Dr Who despite not being at all
unexpected.
What? Everyone was expecting it from the very beginning. It was terrible.
I meant the reveal in Dalek was one of the best in Dr Who, not this
episode. Of course everyone was expecting it - that's precisely my
The reveal in Dalek occurred in the first 10 minutes, not the last 10.
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point. It's the way it happens and when that makes the reveal work,
not learning what the monster is. We know there will always be a
monster, and usually when it's a returning one we know which one it
is well in advance because that's how the BBC does its advertising.
The key is timing and if you know what the monster is then the reveal
needs to be at the start.
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You already complained, not unjustifiably, that this episode
tries to clone Dalek - so why are you now claiming that it's
different?
It was badly written rubbish compared to Dalek,
Dalek was very good. It's not a slight on this episode that it's not
as good - and it does something novel with the Dalek that even that
episode didn't do despite the similarity of the premise.
JNT already did the Dalek out of its casing in Resurrection of the
Daleks. It was only worth about 5 minutes. A far bigger story surrounded
it, and Chibnall inability to tell stories by writing exposition is why
he was left writing 50 minutes of soap opera.
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Chibnall has totally run out of ideas and it's taken him
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far less time to run out of them than Moffat did.
Moffatt was redoing The Empty Child on an annual basis or more
frequently ever since he took over. He ran out of ideas after Blink,
before he ever took control of the show.
Chibnall never had any ideas to begin with. He doesn't have a clue how
to write science fiction.
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The convention with Dalek stories is that you know it's the
Daleks from the start, so there's no mystery about what they
are and therefore the writer doesn't do mystery, they do
threat, and there wasn't any kind of threat to Whittaker in
this episode, just like she has never been under any real
threat in any of the others she's been in.
How often were Matt Smith or Peter Capaldi ever at any apparent
risk to their lives? That's something that's largely been lost
from Dr Who.
Whittaker has never been at any apparent risk ever.
No. My point was that that's also the case for other recent Doctors.
It's the way the stories are now written.
Bad writing is not justification for bad writing, and there has been
more of it under Whittaker than any other Doctor including McCoy.
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There were already soldiers that got involved, so why couldn't
they have been UNIT? The kolos Chibnall could not resist doing
politics.
For that scene to work the soldiers needed not to know what a
Dalek was. Also, the UNIT connection was that the Doctor knows
Kate Stewart, and either they didn't want to bring the actress
back for the special or they decided they wanted the Doctor not
to have her or UNIT's support for the plot. So why not do it
this way instead of come up with something about her being stuck
in South America or whatever?
So instead Chibnall comes out with political crap against Brexit
which is far worse.
Why? It was fairly funny and it's not as though anyone whose
opinions are worth caring about gets upset about digs at Brexit. The
entire thing is farcical in both concept and execution - if anything
making jokes about it is just too easy a target.
It has nothing to do with the plot and took away all hope Chibnall ever
had to creating any kind of tension.
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Kate Steward didn't even need to be mentioned. The never
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needed her in the Sontaran Poison Sky story.
She was a Moffatt creation - the character hadn't been introduced in
The Poison Sky and the then-Doctor had no established relationship
with the UNIT of the 21st Century. The Doctor hadn't worked with
anyone from UNIT since the '80s at that point.
But still The Poison Sky featured UNIT and so did AOL/WW3.
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She was tracking the Dalek on the TARDIS console.
Since when has the TARDIS been able to track Daleks by their DNA?
Since it's needed to for plot purposes, of course. When has the
Oh, you mean because of bad writing and Chibnall's inability to write
exposition.
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Doctor previously had a sample of the specific Dalek he/she's
tracking to use?
Planet of the Daleks. Why didn't he just go back to his TARDIS and
materialize inside the Dalek city? Because there wouldn't have been plot!
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It was
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all tosh.
Once again, it's Dr Who. If you're expecting it to be anything else
you've been watching the wrong series for decades.
The classic series was not tosh like this one is.
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You call that steaming pile a garbage a storyline?
Whatever you think of its quality it was undeniably a storyline.
Dalek gets chopped up, chopped up Dalek gets excavated and
reawoken, reassembled Dalek tries to communicate to its fleet.
Doctor and co. work out what it's up to and stop it.
There, storyline.
No. How can a chopped up Dalek teleport it self and then glue
itself back together again?
Doesn't matter as far as the storyline's concerned. It can and
that's what matters.
It's not a story if everything happens by magic because the shit writer
is incapable of writing exposition.
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Scientifically explaining how that can possibly
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happen in a manner that does not involve what amounts to magic is a
storyline.
No, that's not a storyline. It doesn't progress the plot to invent
exposition to explain the backstory.
Exposition is how science fiction works, otherwise you have no plot
crappy science that no one will ever suspend their disbelief over.
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In other words have people discover the parts in a state of
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undecaying preservation, transport them to one place, and then
stitch them back together and reanimate them, like Frankenstein's
monster.
Or you can have a dormant Dalek being passed between collectors for
years until it gets reactivated by contact with the Doctor in van
It was activated by contact with Rose, and it had infinitely more
credibility than Chibnall crap fest.
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Statten's lab. Yes, the Dalek-in-pieces version is a lot harder to
swallow but that does nothing to affect the actual storyline or the
underlying concept: Dormant Dalek is present on Earth, something
reactivates it, Dalek goes on the rampage.
That not the story in science fiction terms. The story is how a Dalek
separated into 3 pieces and buried underground can survive 1100 years
and then teleport and stitch itself back together again, without
resorting to magic.
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It's exactly the same storyline in both Dalek and Resolution - the
No. Dalek explains how the Dalek survived and leaves no unanswered
questions, so provides an actual story, with a start, a middle, and end.
Chibnall's crap fest doesn't. It's incomplete and unfinished so is not a
story.
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fact that Dalek gives a more sensible backstory is neither here nor
there.
Wrong. RTD himself said that to be a writer you have to complete what
you are writing, and that means tying up all lose ends. Chibnall has
never done that.
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That's how you do science fiction, not a fucking moronic 50 minute
long irrelevant soap opera about Ryan's dad returning home.
Still only about three scenes however much you claim it was '50 minutes long'.
The soap opera amounted to 50 minutes.
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After hearing about how the Dalek was originally
destroyed--like this was actually recorded as history,
then how come no one else have even heard of it?--
How come no one else has even heard of Daleks? Pretty sure
they've been a significant part of events on Earth that
haven't been erased from everyone's memory.
You have the fools RTD and Moffat to thank for that stupidity.
So why complain about Chibnall? I keep pointing out Moffatt's stuff was the problem.
Chibnall didn't fix it but made it worse.
Essentially completely disregarding the Moffatt era and writing a
story about a Dalek that isn't dependent on whatever magic powers
Moffatt gave them, on Moffatt's UNIT characters, or on the weirdly
convoluted alien invasions that everyone on Earth is by now aware of
is a definite improvement in my book. It lets Chibnall tell a
straightforward Dalek story without caring about obscure continuity
while Moffatt was all fanwank and self-congratulatory reuse of his
own inventions from start to finish.
Chibnall's episode was not a story. It was mind numbing soap opera with
a Dalek as a background distraction. Moffat for all his failing is a far
better writer than Chibnall ever will be.
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He's writing a Dr Who plot. If you want credibility you've been
watching the wrong series since Hartnell left.
Doctor Who plots were perfectly credible and well written before
the Colin Bakers second series, and even the Sylvester McCoy era
was far better written than anything Chibnall has shat out in the
past series.
I'll just leave this here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VvZ-VaeB5g
There's a reason the new Who Honest Trailer ends with this
sequence...
And your point is what?
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Not bad given how different viewing figures would be between
Christmas and New Year.
And yet David Tennant manged to get 10 million viewers on New
Year's Day, but Whittaker can barely reach half of that.
Hardly a fair comparison and you know it. That was at the height of
Dr Who's popularity, Tennant was easily the most popular Doctor of
the modern era, and that episode was part of the same story as the
Christmas episode so people were tuning in to see how it concluded.
Oh, but if you read the BBC's pre-written reviews, Whittaker is the
height of Doctor Who's popularity, with 10.9 million viewers. Where have
they all gone? Tennant lasted 4 years and gained viewers. Whittaker's
lost them all in 10 episodes, with the New Year's crap fest coming less
than a month after the previous story and filmed as part of the same
series, continuing the story of Ryan's dad. LOLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!
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What happened to it
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spinning and floating in the air?
What would that accomplish? In any case, while we know the
weapon was
Because then they could only shoot at it with bows and arrows, and
the Daleks would be totally stupid if they designed a blaster that
had less range than an arrow fired up into the air.
They could shoot it from below, right up into the exposed
exhausts...
Not if it was out of range. Arrows don't travel very far.
Daleks aren't very long-ranged - we've seen countless times that they usually need to be in the same room or nearly to fire with any accuracy.
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intact and charged because Lynne was able to use it without the
Dalek attached, we don't know what state the flight engines were
in - we didn't see those until the Dalek was rebuilt. They could
plausibly have malfunctioned, run out of power, or been damaged
with a lucky hit that prevented it from escaping.
Since they obviously had power and worked when the Dalek was
rebuilt as did the weapon, and the national grid wouldn't have
been able to recharge either of them--like how much power do you
need to anti-gravity these days?--they were obviously still working
back in the 9th century.
My point is that anything could have been repaired when the Dalek is
being rebuilt.
With what?
What was the rest of it repaired with? We only saw the gun and a bit of armour before it repaired itself. And possibly the engines just needed power.
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The only thing we know was still functional after the
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Dalek was dismantled is the gun - it could have had a damaged
eyestalk or engines that were repaired with the patch-up job.
Repaired with what? Have you ever tried repairing modern electronic
equipment? It's virtually impossible without specialized tools,
software, and spare parts from the original manufacturers.
And yet the Dalek managed.
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ships any more sophisticated than the ones they possessed back in
Africa?
They didn't posses any ships at all. ZILCH!
The coastal populations did. The Ethiopians occupied territory in Yemen, for instance, and everyone had fishing boats. How do you imagine the early people who left Africa in the first place got around Southeast Asia or to Australia?
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let alone armour, how did they get there and what
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use would they have been? How come there are no traces of them today?
a) Because it didn't happen since there was no Dalek to fight. That
doesn't mean it couldn't have happened.
The Dalek would have massacred millions and year no evidence of bodies
or burials or camp sites or human waste even exists.
I'll try this again slowly, Aggy. Daleks. Don't. Exist. Of course you aren't going to find the remains of armies massacred by them or that gathered to figh them.
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b) We know hardly anything about population movements to and from
the UK in this or earlier periods. We do know that far earlier
Oh yes we bloody well do. Read Gildas, the Anglo-Saxon Chronicles, the
Irish Chronicles, Bede, and there's lots of other texts to supplement
them too.
Few if any of which have much to say about population movements.
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people were moving in from the continent (such as Stonehenge builders
from the mainland) and we know that many Anglo-Saxon burial goods
were manufactured in mainland Europe (and possibly Egypt, as one
Sutton Hoo artefact may be Coptic) and in a small number of cases
from Asia (eastern Byzantine).
What we know is that there were no sub-Saharan Africans that set foot in
Britain at the time, or at any time before the slave trade.
No we don't.
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And how the hell would they have been gathered in time? Did king
Alfred telephone the king of; were there even any sub-Saharan
African states beyond isolated tribes, in existence at the time,
that even had large enough armies or could even unify their
people? Just how stupid does Chibnall think the audience is?
Did you read the timeline I helpfully provided in another threat?
The Africans had states, they reached the Iron Age 4-6 centuries
later than the Europeans (i.e. it had been established for about a
milennium by the 9th Century), and they had steel (though not
hardened steel).
There was no iron smelting in West sub-Saharan Africa until after 1000 AD.
You've got the notation wrong - you must have meant BC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_metallurgy_in_Africa

"Iron smelting was practiced by the Nok culture of Nigeria from as early as 1000 BC".
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It wasn't until well into the Middle Ages that European cultures
developed significantly more advanced technology and more
centralised forms of government than those in sub-Saharan Africa and
You are talking absolute crap. Europeans developed complex civilization
since 2000 BC
And then lost them again. There's no linear progression - the Anglo-Saxons and the rest of the Germanic groups of Western and northern Europe could only somewhat generously be called states, and to most intents and purposes they were tribes based around the village or town as the major social unit. Heads of nominal states like Wessex or Mercia weren't centralised rulers of the kind we'd recognise in the feudal or later eras, they were just the biggest regional chiefs. That's no different from the level of organisation of most African kingdoms of the same or later periods, and a lower level of organisation from the more sophisticated ones, like Ethiopia.
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the main technological advance that allowed the Europeans to become
dominant - the caravel - was both much later and not relevant to
armies' performance in the field.
The caravel was an ocean going ship and had no relevance to anything
except the re-discovery of the Americans.
The Americas came later - the principal importance of the caravel was allowing dominance of the routes around Africa and to Asia, and the mobility it provided European forces. Turns out long-distance transport that involved sticking big guns on ships is a pretty effective way to project power. The slave trade wouldn't have existed without the ability to actually get to the places the slaves were either harvested or sold. Read accounts of the voyage of Vasco de Gama, for instance.
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Don't say Roman times because there were no sub-Saharan
Africans that formed part of the Roman empire. The only time
Africans set foot in England was at the time of Gildas where
the king of the Moors (or some other Semitic origin northern
Africans) formed part of an invasion force of Britain and
Ireland.
Um, what? There were no Moors in Europe in the 6th Century, and
even if there had been and they'd visited Britain that by itself
would demonstrate that it's possible for African armies could
have reached the island.
This was a northern African army composed of mainly Semitic
peoples, controlled as a client state of the Byzantine empire.
Nope, the Byzantines never invaded Britain either. Have you been
reading some fantasy like Geoffrey of Monmouth again and imagining
that it represents reality? If you like that sort of historical
fiction might I recommend Harry Harrison's Hammer and the Cross?
It's marginally more plausible.
You are totally deranged and don't have the remotest clue about history.
After the fall of the Western Roman Empire, the island of Ireland
remained a client state of the Byzantines until around 1200 AD.
How could it have remained one when it wasn't one to begin with? Ireland was never part of the Roman Empire in any form, and lacked the indigenous organisation to form any kind of client state agreement - it's been debated whether the Romans ever landed there, and the country was a succession of feuding Irish and later Norse rulers until long after England was unified.
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Here's another secret, Aggy: There was no Dalek in 9th Century
England. If there had been, and it had required overseas allies
to defeat, it's entirely internally consistent to imagine
foreign armies in Britain when none existed in reality.
No it isn't. How did they get there by sea, since obviously they
didn't swim?
How did anyone get to the island by sea?
Yes, how did they get there by sea without swimming? They would have
needed ships, and they didn't have any.
My point being, people did get to England. If you're next to the Channel, skin colour or cultural origin doesn't make any difference to your ability to use a boat. Europeans made it repeatedly, there's no reason Africans couldn't if they were in the area.
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That sounds like nonsense.
It's a fact.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/8106801/doctor-who-homophobic-killing-off-gay-character/
So it's someone else's nonsense. It's still nonsense.
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You should be asking the question, since when can a dead
life-form that was split into three pieces teleport and then
bring itself back to life?
No I shouldn't, for the simple reason that it doesn't make any
sense for it to have survived for 1,100 years however many
pieces it's cut into. If you can buy one part of that, why not
the other?
I'm not buying any of it. Which part of it contained its brain?
How did the others teleport without a brain? How did they even
communicate?
Space magic, of course. It's a millennium-old alien that manages to
reassemble itself through some sort of internal teleporter - it's
not intended to be over-analysed.
Why would it have three teleporters built into it? If there was only one
of them how did it locate the other parts. What kept all the parts
alive? Chibnall shat out absolute crap in viewers faces. It's his job as
a writer to explain what he wrote, not cut it irrelevant mind numbing
soap opera.
It's his job as a writer to tell a story, which may or may not involve filling in all the details of the backstory.

Once again, why do Cylons sweat? It was even raised as a question by a character in an episode and the series never answered it. This is not a phenomenon restricted to Dr Who, but something seen throughout TV, including actual sci-fi shows rather than kids' fantasies with alien window-dressing like Dr Who.
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colleagues (hence the talk of the office party - you don't bring
part-time assistants to office parties), so it seems as
reasonable an
Yes you do. Even interns get to attend office parties.
Scientists don't have their field assistants in the office in the
first place. Only people who work in a building tend to be invited
to Christmas parties.
Twaddle. The field assistant would have been employed by the same
institution as the archaeologist, so would have been invited to the
office party.
I'm a scientist, Aggy - I do know how these things work.
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Oh you mean like the viewers who found Resolution to be
homophobic?
You, apparently, so yes.
So you think it's ok for Chibnall to be homophobic then?
He isn't, but it's illuminating that you're swallowing outraged gibberish from other people, not just your own.
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And that was all good and healthy, and it made people feel
included and taught them to think rationally and logically.
If the Carry Ons were a formative influence in teaching you to think
rationally and logically, I think we've discovered where your warped
understanding of 'reason' and 'logic' comes from.
The Carry On films were all logically though out and will be remembered
as classics, unlike the crap produced by Chibnall.
Fewer than half a dozen of them were even any good at the time, and most haven't aged well. Carry on Screaming is one of the most famous, but I watched it again on Halloween and it was pretty bad - only Don't Lose Your Head, Up the Khyber and Follow that Camel can be considered classics, and in that order.

Which is not to say they weren't sexist.
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The "PC lobby" cries "sexist" about something like the Carry Ons and
insists that therefore it is to be condemned puritanically and can't
be enjoyed for what it is for fear of endorsing a regressive
attitude.
You spout gibberish about something like Dr Who and claim that
therefore it is to be condemned puritanically for fear that enjoying
something that treats women or black people vaguely realistically
would threaten your misogynistic and racist world view.
It doesn't treat women and black people realistically. It thinks that
ticks boxes solves the underlying problems, when it fact it makes them
worse,
What underlying problems? The perceived problem is that boxes aren't being ticked - that's all 'diversity' means in media-speak: not enough people of a given demographic being portrayed in a non-stereotyped role. So obviously box-ticking fixes the problem by definition.
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The Carry On films on the other hand were not made to tick boxes on
someones political agenda. They were made to entertain. Ticking boxes to
fill racist, sexist, and homosexual quotas isn't entertainment and
serves no one.
Another way to look at it is that ticking boxes does no one any harm when it doesn't do anything to significantly affect the stories being told. The Carry Ons would have worked just as well if Sid James had been black, for instance.
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Fairly sure he said 'Hi Lynne' when she was introduced, but at the
very least he mentioned her name when the Doctor showed up. That was
far earlier than 10 minutes from the end.
Whittaker does noting in this episode until 10 minutes before the end,
just like in every episode.
She talked a lot, including mentioning the girl's name.
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The Dalek doesn't care if it's outnumbered. All it has to do is fly to
safety.
Daleks never seem to have got the hang of retreating.
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imagine. Think how often Daleks are defeated by people damaging
the eye-stalk.
Was it shown to have a damaged eye stalk? It was working fine when
it was rebuilt.
Operative phrase: "When it was rebuilt".
How was it rebuilt if it was damaged?
Not much point rebuilding it if it wasn't.

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sell space Dalek eye stalks?
Plenty of optical equipment and glassware around. If all else failed it could always have raided the BBC studios for Dalek props.
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I meant the reveal in Dalek was one of the best in Dr Who, not this
episode. Of course everyone was expecting it - that's precisely my
The reveal in Dalek occurred in the first 10 minutes, not the last 10.
So did the reveal here. The Doctor learned it was a Dalek as soon as she got a sample. We just didn't see a conventional Dalek body until the end.
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The convention with Dalek stories is that you know it's the
Daleks from the start, so there's no mystery about what they
are and therefore the writer doesn't do mystery, they do
threat, and there wasn't any kind of threat to Whittaker in
this episode, just like she has never been under any real
threat in any of the others she's been in.
How often were Matt Smith or Peter Capaldi ever at any apparent
risk to their lives? That's something that's largely been lost
from Dr Who.
Whittaker has never been at any apparent risk ever.
No. My point was that that's also the case for other recent Doctors.
It's the way the stories are now written.
Bad writing is not justification for bad writing, and there has been
more of it under Whittaker than any other Doctor including McCoy.
Under Whittaker? I don't think she has any involvement in the script.
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Why? It was fairly funny and it's not as though anyone whose
opinions are worth caring about gets upset about digs at Brexit. The
entire thing is farcical in both concept and execution - if anything
making jokes about it is just too easy a target.
It has nothing to do with the plot and took away all hope Chibnall ever
had to creating any kind of tension.
It's a Dr Who special, Aggy. Chibnall played it more as 'straight Dr Who' than most of the specials, but it was still more light-hearted than his main series. It's not aiming for serious dramatic tension.
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Once again, it's Dr Who. If you're expecting it to be anything else
you've been watching the wrong series for decades.
The classic series was not tosh like this one is.
Did you watch the Planet of the Spiders clip?
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undecaying preservation, transport them to one place, and then
stitch them back together and reanimate them, like Frankenstein's
monster.
Or you can have a dormant Dalek being passed between collectors for
years until it gets reactivated by contact with the Doctor in van
It was activated by contact with Rose, and it had infinitely more
credibility than Chibnall crap fest.
It first woke up when the Doctor introduced himself.
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Statten's lab. Yes, the Dalek-in-pieces version is a lot harder to
swallow but that does nothing to affect the actual storyline or the
underlying concept: Dormant Dalek is present on Earth, something
reactivates it, Dalek goes on the rampage.
That not the story in science fiction terms. The story is how a Dalek
separated into 3 pieces and buried underground can survive 1100 years
and then teleport and stitch itself back together again, without
resorting to magic.
That's not the story that was being told, and anyway it did resort to magic.
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fact that Dalek gives a more sensible backstory is neither here nor
there.
Wrong. RTD himself said that to be a writer you have to complete what
you are writing, and that means tying up all lose ends. Chibnall has
never done that.
He tied up the loose ends relevant to the story - the Dalek was disposed of. RTD didn't mean explaining every element of the backstory.
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Doctor Who plots were perfectly credible and well written before
the Colin Bakers second series, and even the Sylvester McCoy era
was far better written than anything Chibnall has shat out in the
past series.
I'll just leave this here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VvZ-VaeB5g
There's a reason the new Who Honest Trailer ends with this
sequence...
And your point is what?
You'd really use the word 'credible' to describe that?

You were complaining about moths and talking frogs in one recent episode, but talking spiders are fine?
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Hardly a fair comparison and you know it. That was at the height of
Dr Who's popularity, Tennant was easily the most popular Doctor of
the modern era, and that episode was part of the same story as the
Christmas episode so people were tuning in to see how it concluded.
Oh, but if you read the BBC's pre-written reviews, Whittaker is the
height of Doctor Who's popularity, with 10.9 million viewers.
I don't even know where I'd find the BBC's pre-written reviews, but Dr Who has done a lot better than 10.9 million since 2005. I doubt anyone's seriously claiming this season has been one of the more popular ones - simply on the figures that's wrong. It's only doing better than the last couple of years - Moffatt's too-long reign cost the series most of its viewership. It's still averaging around 2 million more viewers than season 9, which was itself a better performer than season 10.

Where have
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they all gone? Tennant lasted 4 years and gained viewers. Whittaker's
lost them all in 10 episodes,
I don't think comparing the season average with the first episode is reasonable. There was an excessive amount of hype for Whittaker's first outing even compared with a normal new Doctor debut just because she was a female Doctor. Likely more people than usual who abandoned Dr Who years ago tuned in as a result, realised that it was ultimately much the same and that the Doctor's sex change didn't actually add anything, and left again.

She should be seen as retaining a million or more viewers over the season compared with the last couple of years, rather than losing 5 million overnight.
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The coastal populations did. The Ethiopians occupied territory in Yemen, for
instance, and everyone had fishing boats. How do you imagine the early people
who left Africa in the first place got around Southeast Asia or to Australia?
Before the Suez Canal you could walk dryfoot from the Cape of Good Hope to the
Malay Peninsula. I think during the Ice Ages Australia was connected to Asia.

By the approximate AD 1000 there was all kind of trade by ship in the Indian
Ocean, Mediterrean, Baltic, and North Sea. Scandinavians were raiding the
British Isles, trading on the Volga, settled on Iceland, and had intermittent
colonies in Greenland and Labrador.
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Post by The True Doctor
The Dalek would have massacred millions and year no evidence of bodies
or burials or camp sites or human waste even exists.
I'll try this again slowly, Aggy. Daleks. Don't. Exist. Of course you aren't
going to find the remains of armies massacred by them or that gathered to
figh them.
Even in story there might not be a lot of evidence left. The armies, which would
have been in the thousands rather than millions, could've been a temporary
concentration that would have to be dispersed after exhausting local game and
water. No foundations, no buildings, no potters, just the smiths neccessary for
an army on the move. The dead buried together in one place that hasn't yet been
dug up for a new supermarket.

It looked like the dalek was took up a couple of seconds for each kill, and much
more when the target was evading. A couple thousand people were willing to die
rushing in from all directions could close on one dalek. Nets waited with stones
could hold it in one place. Its eyestalk would've been damaged; its gun could've
been forced down and avoided.
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What we know is that there were no sub-Saharan Africans that set foot in
Britain at the time, or at any time before the slave trade.
No we don't.
Marco Polo made it to China. No reason an african couldn't have made it to
England.
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How did anyone get to the island by sea?
By AD 1000 China, Japan, and the rest east asian coast where trading by sea. And
Polynesians were sailing all around the southwest Pacific, even reaching Easter
Island once. One group of Pacific islanders got a piece of meteorite until Lara
Croft stole it.
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You should be asking the question, since when can a dead
life-form that was split into three pieces teleport and then
bring itself back to life?
No I shouldn't, for the simple reason that it doesn't make any
sense for it to have survived for 1,100 years however many
pieces it's cut into. If you can buy one part of that, why not
the other?
It's common among Zeta-Reticulans. It's their version of going on holiday.

I dislike it being a dalek, because it's beyond their capabilities in everything
shown up to now. But if the Doctor had called an octopedan monster of Beta
Carotene, why not just go along with it.
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The coastal populations did. The Ethiopians occupied territory in Yemen, for
instance, and everyone had fishing boats. How do you imagine the early people
who left Africa in the first place got around Southeast Asia or to Australia?
Before the Suez Canal you could walk dryfoot from the Cape of Good Hope to the
Malay Peninsula. I think during the Ice Ages Australia was connected to Asia.
No, in the Ice Age Australia was connected to New Guinea, which was still on its own. The three large western Indonesian islands were part of the mainland, but you're not getting to Ambon or anywhere further east without a boat or to Polynesia (let alone from Polynesia to New Zealand).
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What we know is that there were no sub-Saharan Africans that set foot in
Britain at the time, or at any time before the slave trade.
No we don't.
Marco Polo made it to China. No reason an african couldn't have made it to
England.
Romans made it to Nigeria, as detailed in a link in a post responding to one of Aggy's previous attempts to pretend either that Africa is about as distant as the moon, or that the Africans hadn't yet invented legs. I'm not sure why he refuses to realise the distances involved are no greater than they are between many other areas with well-known links.
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Before the Suez Canal you could walk dryfoot from the Cape of Good Hope to the
Malay Peninsula. I think during the Ice Ages Australia was connected to Asia.
No, in the Ice Age Australia was connected to New Guinea, which was still on
its own. The three
Oh, well. That's what happen when I guess instead of research.
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Before the Suez Canal you could walk dryfoot from the Cape of Good Hope to the
Malay Peninsula. I think during the Ice Ages Australia was connected to Asia.
No, in the Ice Age Australia was connected to New Guinea, which was still on
its own. The three
Oh, well. That's what happen when I guess instead of research.
Such as it is.
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In article
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The coastal populations did. The Ethiopians occupied territory in
Yemen, for instance, and everyone had fishing boats. How do you
imagine the early people who left Africa in the first place got
around Southeast Asia or to Australia?
Before the Suez Canal you could walk dryfoot from the Cape of Good
Hope to the Malay Peninsula. I think during the Ice Ages Australia
was connected to Asia.
No, in the Ice Age Australia was connected to New Guinea, which was
still on its own. The three large western Indonesian islands were
part of the mainland, but you're not getting to Ambon or anywhere
further east without a boat or to Polynesia (let alone from Polynesia
to New Zealand).
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Post by The True Doctor
What we know is that there were no sub-Saharan Africans that
set foot in Britain at the time, or at any time before the
slave trade.
No we don't.
Marco Polo made it to China. No reason an african couldn't have
made it to England.
Romans made it to Nigeria, as detailed in a link in a post responding
to one of Aggy's previous attempts to pretend either that Africa is
about as distant as the moon, or that the Africans hadn't yet
invented legs. I'm not sure why he refuses to realise the distances
Phoenicians circumnavigated Africa 1000 years earlier. They found
nothing there, and no one to trade with. The even had to cut down trees
to make land for growing crops, and plant their own wheat and harvest it
themselves. Read Herodotus.
involved are no greater than they are between many other areas with
well-known links.
You're not going to get very far marching an army across territory
controlled by your neighbors without getting into a war. You're not
going to get any further if you can't build ships, can navigate, all
ready have chats and navigational instruments; and this doesn't happen
in a few days. It takes months of preparation. And that's assuming you
have already amassed and trained a fully equipped army, and none existed
in sub-Saharan Africa beyond isolated tribesmen hunting with spears and
bows and arrows. Only an imbecile would send for reinforcements from the
other side of the world and not their neighbors. And the Dalek being the
cleverest thing in the universe, as stated by Eccleston wouldn't have
waited. It would have exterminated all the women, then the children,
made alliances with King Alfred's enemies if had to, and then
exterminated them all one by one while staying out of range.

Chibanll the clueless kolos didn't even tell the viewers what happened
ti its ship? How did it get to earth without one?

How come it was supposed to be one of the earliest Daleks that left
Skaro and yet the ones that invaded Earth a century from now had no
teleportation abilities, no anti-gravity discs let alone built in
anti-gravs until Remembrance, and were fucked up by relatively weak
magnetic fields,

The man is a fool!
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2019-01-05 00:43:30 UTC
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Post by p***@conservation.org
In article
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The coastal populations did. The Ethiopians occupied territory in
Yemen, for instance, and everyone had fishing boats. How do you
imagine the early people who left Africa in the first place got
around Southeast Asia or to Australia?
Before the Suez Canal you could walk dryfoot from the Cape of Good
Hope to the Malay Peninsula. I think during the Ice Ages Australia
was connected to Asia.
No, in the Ice Age Australia was connected to New Guinea, which was
still on its own. The three large western Indonesian islands were
part of the mainland, but you're not getting to Ambon or anywhere
further east without a boat or to Polynesia (let alone from Polynesia
to New Zealand).
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Post by The True Doctor
What we know is that there were no sub-Saharan Africans that
set foot in Britain at the time, or at any time before the
slave trade.
No we don't.
Marco Polo made it to China. No reason an african couldn't have
made it to England.
Romans made it to Nigeria, as detailed in a link in a post responding
to one of Aggy's previous attempts to pretend either that Africa is
about as distant as the moon, or that the Africans hadn't yet
invented legs. I'm not sure why he refuses to realise the distances
Phoenicians circumnavigated Africa 1000 years earlier. They found
nothing there, and no one to trade with. The even had to cut down trees
to make land for growing crops, and plant their own wheat and harvest it
themselves. Read Herodotus.
Post by p***@conservation.org
involved are no greater than they are between many other areas with
well-known links.
You're not going to get very far marching an army across territory
controlled by your neighbors without getting into a war. You're not
going to get any further if you can't build ships, can navigate, all
ready have chats and navigational instruments; and this doesn't happen
in a few days. It takes months of preparation. And that's assuming you
have already amassed and trained a fully equipped army, and none existed
in sub-Saharan Africa beyond isolated tribesmen hunting with spears and
bows and arrows. Only an imbecile would send for reinforcements from the
other side of the world and not their neighbors. And the Dalek being the
cleverest thing in the universe, as stated by Eccleston wouldn't have
waited. It would have exterminated all the women, then the children,
made alliances with King Alfred's enemies if had to, and then
exterminated them all one by one while staying out of range.
Chibanll the clueless kolos didn't even tell the viewers what happened
ti its ship? How did it get to earth without one?
How come it was supposed to be one of the earliest Daleks that left
Skaro and yet the ones that invaded Earth a century from now had no
teleportation abilities, no anti-gravity discs let alone built in
anti-gravs until Remembrance, and were fucked up by relatively weak
magnetic fields,
The man is a fool!
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Marco Polo made it to China. No reason an african couldn't have
made it to England.
Romans made it to Nigeria, as detailed in a link in a post responding
to one of Aggy's previous attempts to pretend either that Africa is
about as distant as the moon, or that the Africans hadn't yet
invented legs. I'm not sure why he refuses to realise the distances
Phoenicians circumnavigated Africa 1000 years earlier. They found
nothing there, and no one to trade with.
If that expedition really took place, it was commissioned by an Egyptian monarch called Necho - it wasn't an attempt by the Phoenicians to find new markets for trade. Herodotus has nothing to say about what they found or didn't find, he reports only that they made the trip.

Yet again, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, and the only grounds for considering this expedition took place is that Herodotus recognised Africa was surrounded by sea (and even that isn't good evidence - https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/496u27/how_accepted_is_the_hypothesis_that_phoenician/). No one else in that period or earlier ever referred to this expedition, it isn't part of Egyptian records, it's not clear how Herodotus could have learned about it, and it was considered doubtful by most if not all later Greek and Roman writers.

The even had to cut down trees
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to make land for growing crops, and plant their own wheat and harvest it
themselves.
What does that have to do with anything? Europeans, both Norse and later settlers, did the same on early attempts to colonise the Americas - that doesn't imply there were no natives there who had the ability to grow food.

Read Herodotus.

Usually it's best for you when I don't, since actually reading Herodotus rather than imagining your name-dropping is authoritative pretty much invariably reveals that what Herodotus says is not what you think or want him to have said, and is occasionally the exact opposite.
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involved are no greater than they are between many other areas with
well-known links.
You're not going to get very far marching an army across territory
controlled by your neighbors without getting into a war.
Why not? Other people did - once again, the Romans got to Nigeria. People coming the other way would have to go through all of the same places (most of which, on this route, are in any case in sparsely-populated areas of the Sahel and Sahara).

You're not
Post by The True Doctor
going to get any further if you can't build ships, can navigate, all
ready have chats and navigational instruments; and this doesn't happen
in a few days. It takes months of preparation. And that's assuming you
have already amassed and trained a fully equipped army, and none existed
in sub-Saharan Africa
None existed in Europe outside Byzantium and the Frankish territories. Yes, you've already pointed out that it's implausible for armies to be mobilised in that period to fight a Dalek - but it's no more implausible for Africa than for Europe.
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In article
Marco Polo made it to China. No reason an african couldn't have
made it to England.
Romans made it to Nigeria, as detailed in a link in a post responding
to one of Aggy's previous attempts to pretend either that Africa is
about as distant as the moon, or that the Africans hadn't yet
invented legs. I'm not sure why he refuses to realise the distances
Phoenicians circumnavigated Africa 1000 years earlier. They found
nothing there, and no one to trade with.
If that expedition really took place, it was commissioned by an Egyptian
monarch called Necho - it wasn't an attempt by the Phoenicians to find
new markets for trade. Herodotus has nothing to say about what they
found or didn't find, he reports only that they made the trip.
Yet again, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, and the only
grounds for considering this expedition took place is that Herodotus
recognised Africa was surrounded by sea (and even that isn't good
evidence -
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/496u27/how_accepted_is_the_hypothesis_that_phoenician/). No one else in that period or earlier ever
referred to this expedition, it isn't part of Egyptian records, it's not
clear how Herodotus could have learned about it, and it was considered
doubtful by most if not all later Greek and Roman writers.
The even had to cut down trees
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to make land for growing crops, and plant their own wheat and harvest it
themselves.
What does that have to do with anything? Europeans, both Norse and later
settlers, did the same on early attempts to colonise the Americas - that
doesn't imply there were no natives there who had the ability to grow
food.
Read Herodotus.
Usually it's best for you when I don't, since actually reading Herodotus
rather than imagining your name-dropping is authoritative pretty much
invariably reveals that what Herodotus says is not what you think or
want him to have said, and is occasionally the exact opposite.
Post by The True Doctor
Post by p***@conservation.org
involved are no greater than they are between many other areas with
well-known links.
You're not going to get very far marching an army across territory
controlled by your neighbors without getting into a war.
Why not? Other people did - once again, the Romans got to Nigeria.
People coming the other way would have to go through all of the same
places (most of which, on this route, are in any case in
sparsely-populated areas of the Sahel and Sahara).
You're not
Post by The True Doctor
going to get any further if you can't build ships, can navigate, all
ready have chats and navigational instruments; and this doesn't happen
in a few days. It takes months of preparation. And that's assuming you
have already amassed and trained a fully equipped army, and none existed
in sub-Saharan Africa
None existed in Europe outside Byzantium and the Frankish territories.
Yes, you've already pointed out that it's implausible for armies to be
mobilised in that period to fight a Dalek - but it's no more implausible
for Africa than for Europe.
What about The South Pacific?
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The coastal populations did. The Ethiopians occupied territory in Yemen, for
instance, and everyone had fishing boats. How do you imagine the early people
who left Africa in the first place got around Southeast Asia or to Australia?
Before the Suez Canal you could walk dryfoot from the Cape of Good Hope to the
Malay Peninsula. I think during the Ice Ages Australia was connected to Asia.
By the approximate AD 1000 there was all kind of trade by ship in the Indian
Ocean, Mediterrean, Baltic, and North Sea. Scandinavians were raiding the
British Isles, trading on the Volga, settled on Iceland, and had intermittent
colonies in Greenland and Labrador.
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Post by The True Doctor
The Dalek would have massacred millions and year no evidence of bodies
or burials or camp sites or human waste even exists.
I'll try this again slowly, Aggy. Daleks. Don't. Exist. Of course you aren't
going to find the remains of armies massacred by them or that gathered to
figh them.
Even in story there might not be a lot of evidence left. The armies, which would
have been in the thousands rather than millions, could've been a temporary
concentration that would have to be dispersed after exhausting local game and
water. No foundations, no buildings, no potters, just the smiths neccessary for
an army on the move. The dead buried together in one place that hasn't yet been
dug up for a new supermarket.
It looked like the dalek was took up a couple of seconds for each kill, and much
more when the target was evading. A couple thousand people were willing to die
rushing in from all directions could close on one dalek. Nets waited with stones
could hold it in one place. Its eyestalk would've been damaged; its gun could've
been forced down and avoided.
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Post by The True Doctor
What we know is that there were no sub-Saharan Africans that set foot in
Britain at the time, or at any time before the slave trade.
No we don't.
Marco Polo made it to China. No reason an african couldn't have made it to
England.
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How did anyone get to the island by sea?
By AD 1000 China, Japan, and the rest east asian coast where trading by sea. And
Polynesians were sailing all around the southwest Pacific, even reaching Easter
Island once. One group of Pacific islanders got a piece of meteorite until Lara
Croft stole it.
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You should be asking the question, since when can a dead
life-form that was split into three pieces teleport and then
bring itself back to life?
No I shouldn't, for the simple reason that it doesn't make any
sense for it to have survived for 1,100 years however many
pieces it's cut into. If you can buy one part of that, why not
the other?
It's common among Zeta-Reticulans. It's their version of going on holiday.
I dislike it being a dalek, because it's beyond their capabilities in everything
shown up to now. But if the Doctor had called an octopedan monster of Beta
Carotene, why not just go along with it.
Love your satire.
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The coastal populations did. The Ethiopians occupied territory in
Yemen, for instance, and everyone had fishing boats. How do you
imagine the early people who left Africa in the first place got
around Southeast Asia or to Australia?
Before the Suez Canal you could walk dryfoot from the Cape of Good
Hope to the Malay Peninsula. I think during the Ice Ages Australia
was connected to Asia.
By the approximate AD 1000 there was all kind of trade by ship in the
Indian Ocean, Mediterrean, Baltic, and North Sea. Scandinavians were
raiding the British Isles, trading on the Volga, settled on Iceland,
and had intermittent colonies in Greenland and Labrador.
And like England is invaded by a Dalek and you send off for troops from
Siberia and sub-Saharan Africa? And while you wait months for them to
arrive, the Dalek has exterminated the entire population.
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The Dalek would have massacred millions and year no evidence of
bodies or burials or camp sites or human waste even exists.
I'll try this again slowly, Aggy. Daleks. Don't. Exist. Of course
you aren't going to find the remains of armies massacred by them or
that gathered to figh them.
Even in story there might not be a lot of evidence left. The armies,
which would have been in the thousands rather than millions, could've
been a temporary concentration that would have to be dispersed after
exhausting local game and water. No foundations, no buildings, no
potters, just the smiths neccessary for an army on the move. The dead
buried together in one place that hasn't yet been dug up for a new
supermarket.
There would have been pottery and ceramics along with animal carcass
from the animals they fed on. If the troops only numbered in the
thousands then why would the need to summon more for thousands of miles
away? Besides which, IT'S A DALEK! It wouldn't have waited for
reinforcements to arrive. It would have started exterminating civilians
first, preferably women to begin with, and then children; who would have
offered no resistance and once all the women were gone any remaining men
would not have been able to breed so the Dalek could have just bided its
time, exterminating them one by one.
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It looked like the dalek was took up a couple of seconds for each
kill, and much more when the target was evading. A couple thousand
people were willing to die rushing in from all directions could close
on one dalek. Nets waited with stones could hold it in one place. Its
eyestalk would've been damaged; its gun could've been forced down and
avoided.
Nonsense. These people were fighting the equivalent of a flying tank.
They would not have even scratched it. And like the Dalek was stupid
enough to let them surround it. Women first, then children, then the men
one by one would have been the logical course of action.
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What we know is that there were no sub-Saharan Africans that set
foot in Britain at the time, or at any time before the slave
trade.
No we don't.
Marco Polo made it to China. No reason an african couldn't have made
it to England.
Every reason why they wouldn't have made it. Marco Polo was guaranteed
safe passage and paid his way en-rout by trading. And army of foreigners
would never have been allowed to pass over land. The only route would
have been by sea and they didn't have the technology, or the charts to
navigate it. They didn't even have maps to travel by land.
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How did anyone get to the island by sea?
By AD 1000 China, Japan, and the rest east asian coast where trading
by sea. And Polynesians were sailing all around the southwest
Pacific, even reaching Easter Island once. One group of Pacific
islanders got a piece of meteorite until Lara Croft stole it.
By 1000 AD the Byzantines controlled the passage to Asia-Minor and the
Arabs controlled the passage to Asia. Nobody would have been able to
cross from Europe to China or China to Europe without guaranteed safe
passage from them and others. This was the reason why Columbus decided
to get to China by sailing from East to West (though he probably already
knew that America would be there 1/3 of the way along).
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You should be asking the question, since when can a dead
life-form that was split into three pieces teleport and
then bring itself back to life?
No I shouldn't, for the simple reason that it doesn't make
any sense for it to have survived for 1,100 years however
many pieces it's cut into. If you can buy one part of that,
why not the other?
It's common among Zeta-Reticulans. It's their version of going on holiday.
This was a Dalek.
Post by Siri Cruise
I dislike it being a dalek, because it's beyond their capabilities in
everything shown up to now. But if the Doctor had called an octopedan
monster of Beta Carotene, why not just go along with it.
Why would it have a built in teleport? Three built in teleports. How did
it survive 1100 in pieces? How did it know where the other pieces were?

Where is Chibnall's exposition. The man is a fool and doesn't have the
remotest clue how to write science fiction.
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The Witch's Familiar: Its revealed that defunct Daleks can survive
indefinitely in the sewers without casings, until a kindly Time Lord
arrives to feed them regeneration energy! They then come swarming out
of the sewers to try to steal casings from the whole Daleks. It is
therefore plausible that a Dalek could revive after being buried for
1200 years!
You might have a point.
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The coastal populations did. The Ethiopians occupied territory in
Yemen, for instance, and everyone had fishing boats. How do you
imagine the early people who left Africa in the first place got
around Southeast Asia or to Australia?
Before the Suez Canal you could walk dryfoot from the Cape of Good
Hope to the Malay Peninsula. I think during the Ice Ages Australia
was connected to Asia.
By the approximate AD 1000 there was all kind of trade by ship in the
Indian Ocean, Mediterrean, Baltic, and North Sea. Scandinavians were
raiding the British Isles, trading on the Volga, settled on Iceland,
and had intermittent colonies in Greenland and Labrador.
And like England is invaded by a Dalek and you send off for troops from
Siberia and sub-Saharan Africa? And while you wait months for them to
arrive, the Dalek has exterminated the entire population.
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The Dalek would have massacred millions and year no evidence of
bodies or burials or camp sites or human waste even exists.
I'll try this again slowly, Aggy. Daleks. Don't. Exist. Of course
you aren't going to find the remains of armies massacred by them or
that gathered to figh them.
Even in story there might not be a lot of evidence left. The armies,
which would have been in the thousands rather than millions, could've
been a temporary concentration that would have to be dispersed after
exhausting local game and water. No foundations, no buildings, no
potters, just the smiths neccessary for an army on the move. The dead
buried together in one place that hasn't yet been dug up for a new
supermarket.
There would have been pottery and ceramics along with animal carcass
from the animals they fed on. If the troops only numbered in the
thousands then why would the need to summon more for thousands of miles
away? Besides which, IT'S A DALEK! It wouldn't have waited for
reinforcements to arrive. It would have started exterminating civilians
first, preferably women to begin with, and then children; who would have
offered no resistance and once all the women were gone any remaining men
would not have been able to breed so the Dalek could have just bided its
time, exterminating them one by one.
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It looked like the dalek was took up a couple of seconds for each
kill, and much more when the target was evading. A couple thousand
people were willing to die rushing in from all directions could close
on one dalek. Nets waited with stones could hold it in one place. Its
eyestalk would've been damaged; its gun could've been forced down and
avoided.
Nonsense. These people were fighting the equivalent of a flying tank.
They would not have even scratched it. And like the Dalek was stupid
enough to let them surround it. Women first, then children, then the men
one by one would have been the logical course of action.
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What we know is that there were no sub-Saharan Africans that set
foot in Britain at the time, or at any time before the slave
trade.
No we don't.
Marco Polo made it to China. No reason an african couldn't have made
it to England.
Every reason why they wouldn't have made it. Marco Polo was guaranteed
safe passage and paid his way en-rout by trading. And army of foreigners
would never have been allowed to pass over land. The only route would
have been by sea and they didn't have the technology, or the charts to
navigate it. They didn't even have maps to travel by land.
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How did anyone get to the island by sea?
By AD 1000 China, Japan, and the rest east asian coast where trading
by sea. And Polynesians were sailing all around the southwest
Pacific, even reaching Easter Island once. One group of Pacific
islanders got a piece of meteorite until Lara Croft stole it.
By 1000 AD the Byzantines controlled the passage to Asia-Minor and the
Arabs controlled the passage to Asia. Nobody would have been able to
cross from Europe to China or China to Europe without guaranteed safe
passage from them and others. This was the reason why Columbus decided
to get to China by sailing from East to West (though he probably already
knew that America would be there 1/3 of the way along).
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You should be asking the question, since when can a dead
life-form that was split into three pieces teleport and
then bring itself back to life?
No I shouldn't, for the simple reason that it doesn't make
any sense for it to have survived for 1,100 years however
many pieces it's cut into. If you can buy one part of that,
why not the other?
It's common among Zeta-Reticulans. It's their version of going on holiday.
This was a Dalek.
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I dislike it being a dalek, because it's beyond their capabilities in
everything shown up to now. But if the Doctor had called an octopedan
monster of Beta Carotene, why not just go along with it.
Why would it have a built in teleport? Three built in teleports. How did
it survive 1100 in pieces? How did it know where the other pieces were?
Where is Chibnall's exposition. The man is a fool and doesn't have the
remotest clue how to write science fiction.
Fire Chibnall and Whittaker now!!
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solar penguin
2019-01-04 10:00:39 UTC
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ships any more sophisticated than the ones they possessed back in
Africa?
They didn't posses any ships at all. ZILCH!
The coastal populations did. The Ethiopians occupied territory in Yemen,
for instance, and everyone had fishing boats. How do you imagine the
early people who left Africa in the first place got around Southeast
Asia or to Australia?
You're both assuming that the alliance was organised by humans from that
era. For all we know, the brain behind it could've been a Time Lord, or
a Time Agent, or even a Thal. The (possibly unreliable) narrator who
wrote the custodians' account of the battle would've assumed the mysterious
organiser was a human and never knew the real truth...
The True Doctor
2019-01-04 13:30:14 UTC
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ships any more sophisticated than the ones they possessed back in
Africa?
They didn't posses any ships at all. ZILCH!
The coastal populations did. The Ethiopians occupied territory in Yemen,
for instance, and everyone had fishing boats. How do you imagine the
Fishing boats will not get you from Africa to Britain. You need ocean
going ships and a means of navigation, including charts, and wood to
build them, and sub-Saharan Africa didn't have any of these. Sea trade
in the Mediterranean in the 9th century was exclusively controlled by
Europeans and Arabs, and in the Atlantic by the Europeans alone.
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early people who left Africa in the first place got around Southeast
Asia or to Australia?
They walked from Africa to Asia and could have used rafts to get to
Australia by hopping from island to island. Rafts are no use for
transporting armies. 99.9% of attempts would have sunk with everyone on
board.
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You're both assuming that the alliance was organised by humans from that
era. For all we know, the brain behind it could've been a Time Lord, or
a Time Agent, or even a Thal. The (possibly unreliable) narrator who
wrote the custodians' account of the battle would've assumed the mysterious
organiser was a human and never knew the real truth...
Where does Chibnall say there was a non-human using non-human technology
to put the alliance together?
p***@conservation.org
2019-01-04 16:40:41 UTC
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ships any more sophisticated than the ones they possessed back in
Africa?
They didn't posses any ships at all. ZILCH!
The coastal populations did. The Ethiopians occupied territory in Yemen,
for instance, and everyone had fishing boats. How do you imagine the
Fishing boats will not get you from Africa to Britain. You need ocean
going ships and a means of navigation, including charts,
No one in either Europe or Africa had oceangoing ships until the Renaissance. You're drastically overestimating the level of sophistication needed to cross small and generally calm areas of water like the Mediterranean. The Norse were able to make it to America, but only following a course that had multiple large islands en route - essentially island-hopping from Iceland and Greenland to mainland North America.

and wood to
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build them, and sub-Saharan Africa didn't have any of these.
Sub-Saharan Africa is full of wood. It's forest and savannah all the way down. And before you suggest otherwise, yes the locals did have the technology to chop down trees - there's evidence that large swathes of the Congo in areas that have been forest for as long as Europeans have known them were once cultivated.

Sea trade
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in the Mediterranean in the 9th century was exclusively controlled by
Europeans and Arabs, and in the Atlantic by the Europeans alone.
There was no Atlantic sea trade in the 9th Century - the Europeans had nothing more sophisticated than the longship, a fast military transport which as above could only make long-distance journeys by island-hopping. European shipping was sufficiently crude that dromons remained the most important forms of warship as late as the 12th Century, and those weren't much more sophisticated than Roman galleys - just larger.
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2019-01-04 17:41:19 UTC
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ships any more sophisticated than the ones they possessed
back in Africa?
They didn't posses any ships at all. ZILCH!
The coastal populations did. The Ethiopians occupied territory
in Yemen, for instance, and everyone had fishing boats. How do
you imagine the
Fishing boats will not get you from Africa to Britain. You need
ocean going ships and a means of navigation, including charts,
No one in either Europe or Africa had oceangoing ships until the
Renaissance. You're drastically overestimating the level of
sophistication needed to cross small and generally calm areas of
water like the Mediterranean. The Norse were able to make it to
America, but only following a course that had multiple large islands
en route - essentially island-hopping from Iceland and Greenland to
mainland North America.
Sub-Saharan Africa had nothing that even equaled the Viking long boat,
and that was bronze age technology. It had no access to the
Mediterranean and never undertook any sea voyages or trading by sea of
any kind.
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and wood to
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build them, and sub-Saharan Africa didn't have any of these.
Sub-Saharan Africa is full of wood. It's forest and savannah all the
way down. And before you suggest otherwise, yes the locals did have
the technology to chop down trees - there's evidence that large
swathes of the Congo in areas that have been forest for as long as
Europeans have known them were once cultivated.
LOL... Congo was not a sea faring nation and neither was anywhere else
in west Africa south of the Sahara. Even if they had wood they didn't
know how to build ships, didn't have charts, didn't have navigation
tools, didn't have writing, and didn't know of the existence of anything
beyond their neighbors.

If King Alfred needed help fighting a war he wouldn't have gone to
sub-Saharan Africa or Mongolia to find it, he would have sought help
from his regional neighbors in Europe.

Chibnall's writing and historical revisionism is a disgrace!
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Sea trade
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in the Mediterranean in the 9th century was exclusively controlled
by Europeans and Arabs, and in the Atlantic by the Europeans
alone.
There was no Atlantic sea trade in the 9th Century - the Europeans
had nothing more sophisticated than the longship, a fast military
transport which as above could only make long-distance journeys by
island-hopping.
The Europeans had the galley which was far more sophisticate than the
long ship and capable of not just sailing, but policing the Atlantic
coast from the likes of pirates and raiders.
European shipping was sufficiently crude that dromons
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remained the most important forms of warship as late as the 12th
Century, and those weren't much more sophisticated than Roman galleys
- just larger.
And what did sub-Saharan Africa have to challenge them or to navigate
with, including weapons, maps and navigation tools? NOTHING!
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2019-01-04 20:13:49 UTC
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ships any more sophisticated than the ones they possessed
back in Africa?
They didn't posses any ships at all. ZILCH!
The coastal populations did. The Ethiopians occupied territory
in Yemen, for instance, and everyone had fishing boats. How do
you imagine the
Fishing boats will not get you from Africa to Britain. You need
ocean going ships and a means of navigation, including charts,
No one in either Europe or Africa had oceangoing ships until the
Renaissance. You're drastically overestimating the level of
sophistication needed to cross small and generally calm areas of
water like the Mediterranean. The Norse were able to make it to
America, but only following a course that had multiple large islands
en route - essentially island-hopping from Iceland and Greenland to
mainland North America.
Sub-Saharan Africa had nothing that even equaled the Viking long boat,
and that was bronze age technology.
The innovation of the longboat (which was very late Iron Age technology) was its hull shape - it was fast and able to operate in shallow waters. It was, as I said, a military transport. Its innovations had nothing to do with increasing its ability to operate at long distances (although the Norse may have had more sophisticated navigation than their counterparts elsewhere in Europe).

It had no access to the
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Mediterranean and never undertook any sea voyages or trading by sea of
any kind.
No one ever claimed it did. You still seem incapable of grasping the notion that these people had legs, riding animals, and in many cases wheels.

Even if they had wood they didn't
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know how to build ships, didn't have charts, didn't have navigation
tools,
Europeans didn't have charts or, outside the Byzantine and possibly Norse worlds, navigation tools. On top of your sophistic attempts to disguise your desperate desire to imagine Africans as backward with an appeal to an African technological history you evidently don't know at all, you're also imagining the Europeans were much more sophisticated than they were. They knew how to stick a bit of cloth to a few carved logs and to make oars - give or take some refinements of design they knew no more than anyone else in the same period. Having a hull doesn't make a galley as different from a 'raft' as you imagine.

The trading ships in use in Europe were less sophisticated than the Arab-derived dhows in use in East Africa by, at the latest, the 10th Century.

didn't have writing,

Yet again a combination of your trademark stupendous ignorance and insistence on seeing 'sub-Saharan Africa' as some kind of homogenous blob works against you. The Ethiopian alphabet is the oldest in the world still in use, and indigenous writing systems also existed in Berber regions of the Sahel as well as in North Africa, in the Sudans, and symbology that may represent a form of writing is known from Nigeria that dates back at least to 400 AD. That's on top of introduced Phoenician, Greek and Arabic writing systems.

and didn't know of the existence of anything
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beyond their neighbors.
If King Alfred needed help fighting a war he wouldn't have gone to
sub-Saharan Africa or Mongolia to find it, he would have sought help
from his regional neighbors in Europe.
Chibnall's writing and historical revisionism is a disgrace!
Dr Who's historical stories are historical revisionism pretty much by definition, but you're the only one who considers it more of a stretch that Africans could get to Europe than that a homicidal alien dustbin could.
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Sea trade
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in the Mediterranean in the 9th century was exclusively controlled
by Europeans and Arabs, and in the Atlantic by the Europeans
alone.
There was no Atlantic sea trade in the 9th Century - the Europeans
had nothing more sophisticated than the longship, a fast military
transport which as above could only make long-distance journeys by
island-hopping.
The Europeans had the galley which was far more sophisticate than the
long ship and capable of not just sailing, but policing the Atlantic
coast from the likes of pirates and raiders.
The dromon was a galley, just a big one. It wasn't sophisticated in the slightest - it was just an upscaled version of ships the Romans had used a millennium earlier.
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ships any more sophisticated than the ones they
possessed back in Africa?
They didn't posses any ships at all. ZILCH!
The coastal populations did. The Ethiopians occupied
territory in Yemen, for instance, and everyone had fishing
boats. How do you imagine the
Fishing boats will not get you from Africa to Britain. You
need ocean going ships and a means of navigation, including
charts,
No one in either Europe or Africa had oceangoing ships until the
Renaissance. You're drastically overestimating the level of
sophistication needed to cross small and generally calm areas of
water like the Mediterranean. The Norse were able to make it to
America, but only following a course that had multiple large
islands en route - essentially island-hopping from Iceland and
Greenland to mainland North America.
Sub-Saharan Africa had nothing that even equaled the Viking long
boat, and that was bronze age technology.
The innovation of the longboat (which was very late Iron Age
technology) was its hull shape - it was fast and able to operate in
shallow waters. It was, as I said, a military transport. Its
innovations had nothing to do with increasing its ability to operate
at long distances (although the Norse may have had more sophisticated
navigation than their counterparts elsewhere in Europe).
And yet though it was primitive technology there wasn't a single
civilization located in sub-Saharan Africa that could even match it
until the 19th century.

What Chibnall and his fellow racists at the BBC fail to comprehend is
that there is nothing wrong with one civilization being historically
inferior to any other. The ancient Greeks were 1500 years behind the
Egyptians until 1700 BC when they invaded an conquered Egypt as part of
the Hyksos. They were behind the Persian until 590 BC when they defeated
them at Marathon. The Romans were behind the Greeks until 290 BC. The
British were behind the whole of Europe until they defeated the Spanish
Armada. There's nothing wrong with accepting your limitations. As
Socrates once said, the most intelligent person isn't the one who
fancies he knows something when he appears to know nothing at all, it's
the one that knows he knows nothing. Knowing you know nothing means that
you are willing to learn.
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It had no access to the
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Mediterranean and never undertook any sea voyages or trading by sea
of any kind.
No one ever claimed it did. You still seem incapable of grasping the
notion that these people had legs, riding animals, and in many cases
wheels.
Riding animals? Like horses? WHAT HORSES! They wheel was barley used in
sub-Saharan Africa (if it existed at all) until the 19th century.

Any uninvited army attempting to travel though Arab controlled northern
Africa by foot would have been slaughtered. The same with any uninvited
army attempting to travel though Europe.
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Even if they had wood they didn't
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know how to build ships, didn't have charts, didn't have
navigation tools,
Europeans didn't have charts or, outside the Byzantine and possibly
Norse worlds, navigation tools.
You are talking complete and utter nonsense. All sea fearing nations had
charts, and given that the Normans were able to invade Britain by sea
less than 100 years later, and Harold had already fought of the Danes
weeks earlier, further north, by sea, it is clear that the Anglo-Saxons
also had maps as well as sea charts, and intelligence networks to know
they were being invaded, which means accurate navigation.
On top of your sophistic attempts to
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disguise your desperate desire to imagine Africans as backward with
an appeal to an African technological history you evidently don't
Stop trying to portray sub-Saharan Africa as something it was
historically not. I've history books, and historical revisionism is a
form of racism.
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know at all, you're also imagining the Europeans were much more
sophisticated than they were. They knew how to stick a bit of cloth
More historical revisionism.
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to a few carved logs and to make oars - give or take some refinements
of design they knew no more than anyone else in the same period.
Having a hull doesn't make a galley as different from a 'raft' as you
imagine.
A raft can't carry an army. A raft doesn't have a rudder and can't be
navigated. A raft is not a fighting ship. A raft cannot carry artillery.
A raft cannot survive storms at sea or even waves on the coast. A raft
can't sail in all weather conditions, like a war galley could.
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The trading ships in use in Europe were less sophisticated than the
Arab-derived dhows in use in East Africa by, at the latest, the 10th
Century.
But none were being used in western sub-Sahran Africa which is where we
are dealing with.
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didn't have writing,
Yet again a combination of your trademark stupendous ignorance and
insistence on seeing 'sub-Saharan Africa' as some kind of homogenous
blob works against you. The Ethiopian alphabet is the oldest in the
world still in use, and indigenous writing systems also existed in
Ethiopia was controlled by the Arabs.
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Berber regions of the Sahel as well as in North Africa, in the
Sudans, and symbology that may represent a form of writing is known
from Nigeria that dates back at least to 400 AD. That's on top of
introduced Phoenician, Greek and Arabic writing systems.
Where are the works of literature composed by these places? What was
their system of governance?

Sub-Saharan Africa was effectively still in the stone age until the 19th
century; that's why nobody wanted to conquer it, not the Egyptians, not
the Greeks, not the Romans, not the Arabs, not the Ottomans; because
there was no civilization which posed any kind of threat militarily or
socio-ecconomically, and therefore there was nothing and no one to conquer.

Recruiting an army from the region, which had no armies; no means of
training, arming, or transporting them; is totally ridiculous and
unbelievable. Only an imbecile or someone motivated by a historical
revisionist agenda would come up with such an idea which amounts to
brainwashing.
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and didn't know of the existence of anything
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beyond their neighbors.
If King Alfred needed help fighting a war he wouldn't have gone to
sub-Saharan Africa or Mongolia to find it, he would have sought
help from his regional neighbors in Europe.
Chibnall's writing and historical revisionism is a disgrace!
Dr Who's historical stories are historical revisionism pretty much by
definition, but you're the only one who considers it more of a
stretch that Africans could get to Europe than that a homicidal alien
dustbin could.
It was already established that the Daleks had space travel. Even
Whittaker state that. It has never been established that any states in
sub-Saharan Africa possessed any kind trained army, let alone a means of
transporting them to England, because it's a falsification of history
which no one will suspend their disbelief over, just like having
sub-Saharan Africans ruling Thessaly and Troy, and science fiction has
always been about providing enough exposition in order to allowed the
suspension disbelief. Chibnall doesn't have a clue how to write it and
his racist and sexist agenda makes it even more unbelievable.
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Sea trade
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in the Mediterranean in the 9th century was exclusively
controlled by Europeans and Arabs, and in the Atlantic by the
Europeans alone.
There was no Atlantic sea trade in the 9th Century - the
Europeans had nothing more sophisticated than the longship, a
fast military transport which as above could only make
long-distance journeys by island-hopping.
The Europeans had the galley which was far more sophisticate than
the long ship and capable of not just sailing, but policing the
Atlantic coast from the likes of pirates and raiders.
The dromon was a galley, just a big one. It wasn't sophisticated in
the slightest - it was just an upscaled version of ships the Romans
had used a millennium earlier.
It's was still millennia in advance of anything available in western
sub-Saharan Africa.

Chibnall and the BBC's historical revisionism isn't impressing anyone,
least of all people from ethnic minorities.
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ships any more sophisticated than the ones they possessed
back in Africa?
They didn't posses any ships at all. ZILCH!
The coastal populations did. The Ethiopians occupied territory
in Yemen, for instance, and everyone had fishing boats. How do
you imagine the
Fishing boats will not get you from Africa to Britain. You need
ocean going ships and a means of navigation, including charts,
No one in either Europe or Africa had oceangoing ships until the
Renaissance. You're drastically overestimating the level of
sophistication needed to cross small and generally calm areas of
water like the Mediterranean. The Norse were able to make it to
America, but only following a course that had multiple large islands
en route - essentially island-hopping from Iceland and Greenland to
mainland North America.
Sub-Saharan Africa had nothing that even equaled the Viking long boat,
and that was bronze age technology. It had no access to the
Mediterranean and never undertook any sea voyages or trading by sea of
any kind.
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and wood to
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build them, and sub-Saharan Africa didn't have any of these.
Sub-Saharan Africa is full of wood. It's forest and savannah all the
way down. And before you suggest otherwise, yes the locals did have
the technology to chop down trees - there's evidence that large
swathes of the Congo in areas that have been forest for as long as
Europeans have known them were once cultivated.
LOL... Congo was not a sea faring nation and neither was anywhere else
in west Africa south of the Sahara. Even if they had wood they didn't
know how to build ships, didn't have charts, didn't have navigation
tools, didn't have writing, and didn't know of the existence of anything
beyond their neighbors.
If King Alfred needed help fighting a war he wouldn't have gone to
sub-Saharan Africa or Mongolia to find it, he would have sought help
from his regional neighbors in Europe.
Chibnall's writing and historical revisionism is a disgrace!
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Sea trade
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in the Mediterranean in the 9th century was exclusively controlled
by Europeans and Arabs, and in the Atlantic by the Europeans
alone.
There was no Atlantic sea trade in the 9th Century - the Europeans
had nothing more sophisticated than the longship, a fast military
transport which as above could only make long-distance journeys by
island-hopping.
The Europeans had the galley which was far more sophisticate than the
long ship and capable of not just sailing, but policing the Atlantic
coast from the likes of pirates and raiders.
European shipping was sufficiently crude that dromons
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remained the most important forms of warship as late as the 12th
Century, and those weren't much more sophisticated than Roman galleys
- just larger.
And what did sub-Saharan Africa have to challenge them or to navigate
with, including weapons, maps and navigation tools? NOTHING!
What did Europe know about Australia in thos times?
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What did Europe know about Australia in thos times?
They would have known fuck all, just like they knew fuck all about
Siberia and sub-Saharan Africa.
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What did Europe know about Australia in thos times?
They would have known f*k all, just like they knew f*k all about
Siberia and sub-Saharan Africa.
You got my point.
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ships any more sophisticated than the ones they possessed back in
Africa?
They didn't posses any ships at all. ZILCH!
The coastal populations did. The Ethiopians occupied territory in Yemen,
for instance, and everyone had fishing boats. How do you imagine the
Fishing boats will not get you from Africa to Britain. You need ocean
going ships and a means of navigation, including charts, and wood to
build them, and sub-Saharan Africa didn't have any of these. Sea trade
in the Mediterranean in the 9th century was exclusively controlled by
Europeans and Arabs, and in the Atlantic by the Europeans alone.
Quite true.
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early people who left Africa in the first place got around Southeast
Asia or to Australia?
They walked from Africa to Asia and could have used rafts to get to
Australia by hopping from island to island. Rafts are no use for
transporting armies. 99.9% of attempts would have sunk with everyone on
board.
Indeed.
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You're both assuming that the alliance was organised by humans from that
era. For all we know, the brain behind it could've been a Time Lord, or
a Time Agent, or even a Thal. The (possibly unreliable) narrator who
wrote the custodians' account of the battle would've assumed the mysterious
organiser was a human and never knew the real truth...
Where does Chibnall say there was a non-human using non-human technology
to put the alliance together?
Nowhere.
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You're both assuming that the alliance was organised by humans from that
era. For all we know, the brain behind it could've been a Time Lord, or
a Time Agent, or even a Thal. The (possibly unreliable) narrator who
wrote the custodians' account of the battle would've assumed the mysterious
organiser was a human and never knew the real truth...
Where does Chibnall say there was a non-human using non-human technology
to put the alliance together?
Where does he say there wasn't?
The True Doctor
2019-01-04 20:11:13 UTC
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You're both assuming that the alliance was organised by humans from that
era. For all we know, the brain behind it could've been a Time Lord, or
a Time Agent, or even a Thal. The (possibly unreliable) narrator who
wrote the custodians' account of the battle would've assumed the mysterious
organiser was a human and never knew the real truth...
Where does Chibnall say there was a non-human using non-human technology
to put the alliance together?
Where does he say there wasn't?
It's the writer's job to answer all unanswered questions that derive
from what he has written, not the readers.
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2019-01-04 21:44:35 UTC
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You're both assuming that the alliance was organised by humans from that
era. For all we know, the brain behind it could've been a Time Lord, or
a Time Agent, or even a Thal. The (possibly unreliable) narrator who
wrote the custodians' account of the battle would've assumed the mysterious
organiser was a human and never knew the real truth...
Where does Chibnall say there was a non-human using non-human technology
to put the alliance together?
Where does he say there wasn't?
It's the writer's job to answer all unanswered questions that derive
from what he has written, not the readers.
Hear!! Hear!!!
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2019-01-05 00:15:41 UTC
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You're both assuming that the alliance was organised by humans from that
era. For all we know, the brain behind it could've been a Time Lord, or
a Time Agent, or even a Thal. The (possibly unreliable) narrator who
wrote the custodians' account of the battle would've assumed the mysterious
organiser was a human and never knew the real truth...
Where does Chibnall say there was a non-human using non-human technology
to put the alliance together?
Where does he say there wasn't?
It's the writer's job to answer all unanswered questions that derive
from what he has written, not the readers.
Hear!! Hear!!!
All this ass kissing is make me nauseated.
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Where does Chibnall say there was a non-human using non-human technology
to put the alliance together?
Where does he say there wasn't?
It's the writer's job to answer all unanswered questions that derive
from what he has written, not the readers.
Tell that to the author of Rashomon!
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2019-01-04 22:42:47 UTC
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Where does Chibnall say there was a non-human using non-human technology
to put the alliance together?
Where does he say there wasn't?
It's the writer's job to answer all unanswered questions that derive
from what he has written, not the readers.
Tell that to the author of Rashomon!
It's the for hire writer's job to tell a story people will pay to hear.
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Where does Chibnall say there was a non-human using non-human technology
to put the alliance together?
Where does he say there wasn't?
It's the writer's job to answer all unanswered questions that derive
from what he has written, not the readers.
Tell that to the author of Rashomon!
Nice!
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Where does Chibnall say there was a non-human using non-human technology
to put the alliance together?
Where does he say there wasn't?
It's the writer's job to answer all unanswered questions that derive
from what he has written, not the readers.
Tell that to the author of Rashomon!
What is Rashomon?
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It's the writer's job to answer all unanswered questions that derive
from what he has written, not the readers.
Tell that to the author of Rashomon!
What is Rashomon?
I could tell you, but my memory of it might not be accurate.
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2019-01-05 08:24:27 UTC
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It's the writer's job to answer all unanswered questions that derive
from what he has written, not the readers.
Tell that to the author of Rashomon!
What is Rashomon?
I could tell you, but my memory of it might not be accurate.
It’s a Kurosawa - one of the greatest movies ever made. It’s probably
overdue for a remake too - unlike The Seven Samurai and Yojimbo, it’s only
been retold for Western viewers once - as usual, as a Western, The Outrage,
in 1964. Possibly the most wildly mixed lead cast ever - Paul Newman,
William Shatner and Edward G Robinson.

You’d hate it Aggy, in either version.
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It's the writer's job to answer all unanswered questions that derive
from what he has written, not the readers.
Tell that to the author of Rashomon!
What is Rashomon?
I could tell you, but my memory of it might not be accurate.
It’s a Kurosawa - one of the greatest movies ever made. It’s probably
overdue for a remake too - unlike The Seven Samurai and Yojimbo, it’s only
been retold for Western viewers once - as usual, as a Western, The Outrage,
in 1964. Possibly the most wildly mixed lead cast ever - Paul Newman,
William Shatner and Edward G Robinson.
Only once? The BBC did a TV version in the 80s starring Adam Faith. In fact,
that's how I first ever heard of it!

(Ironic that we don't agree on the facts about this!)
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You’d hate it Aggy, in either version.
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It's the writer's job to answer all unanswered questions that derive
from what he has written, not the readers.
Tell that to the author of Rashomon!
What is Rashomon?
I could tell you, but my memory of it might not be accurate.
It’s a Kurosawa - one of the greatest movies ever made. It’s probably
overdue for a remake too - unlike The Seven Samurai and Yojimbo, it’s only
been retold for Western viewers once - as usual, as a Western, The Outrage,
in 1964. Possibly the most wildly mixed lead cast ever - Paul Newman,
William Shatner and Edward G Robinson.
Only once? The BBC did a TV version in the 80s starring Adam Faith. In fact,
that's how I first ever heard of it!
(Ironic that we don't agree on the facts about this!)
You’d hate it Aggy, in either version.
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It's the writer's job to answer all unanswered questions that derive
from what he has written, not the readers.
Tell that to the author of Rashomon!
What is Rashomon?
I could tell you, but my memory of it might not be accurate.
It’s a Kurosawa - one of the greatest movies ever made. It’s probably
overdue for a remake too - unlike The Seven Samurai and Yojimbo, it’s only
been retold for Western viewers once - as usual, as a Western, The Outrage,
in 1964. Possibly the most wildly mixed lead cast ever - Paul Newman,
William Shatner and Edward G Robinson.
Only once? The BBC did a TV version in the 80s starring Adam Faith. In fact,
that's how I first ever heard of it!
(Ironic that we don't agree on the facts about this!)
I was only thinking of movies - didn’t know about that one. I thought it
was surprising it hadn’t been done more.
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IIRC, the Daleks are all interconnected, which could have enabled the scout to know where the fleet was. Why couldn't the scout summon the fleet that way?
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IIRC, the Daleks are all interconnected, which could have enabled the
scout to know where the fleet was. Why couldn't the scout summon the
fleet that way?
Not enough signal comes to mind.
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It's the writer's job to answer all unanswered questions that derive
from what he has written, not the readers.
Tell that to the author of Rashomon!
What is Rashomon?
I could tell you, but my memory of it might not be accurate.
It’s a Kurosawa - one of the greatest movies ever made. It’s probably
overdue for a remake too - unlike The Seven Samurai and Yojimbo, it’s only
been retold for Western viewers once - as usual, as a Western, The Outrage,
in 1964. Possibly the most wildly mixed lead cast ever - Paul Newman,
William Shatner and Edward G Robinson.
You’d hate it Aggy, in either version.
No remake please, just originals!!
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It's the writer's job to answer all unanswered questions that derive
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Tell that to the author of Rashomon!
What is Rashomon?
I could tell you, but my memory of it might not be accurate.
Give it a try.
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spinning and floating in the air?
What would that accomplish? In any case, while we know the
weapon was
Because then they could only shoot at it with bows and arrows,
and the Daleks would be totally stupid if they designed a
blaster that had less range than an arrow fired up into the
air.
They could shoot it from below, right up into the exposed
exhausts...
Not if it was out of range. Arrows don't travel very far.
Daleks aren't very long-ranged - we've seen countless times that they
usually need to be in the same room or nearly to fire with any
accuracy.
We've seen them fighting in the time war and attacking Earth from orbit
in The Parting of the Ways, ordinary Daleks, not Daleks in ships. So you
a bow and arrow isn't going to reach or hurt them at all.
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intact and charged because Lynne was able to use it without
the Dalek attached, we don't know what state the flight
engines were in - we didn't see those until the Dalek was
rebuilt. They could plausibly have malfunctioned, run out of
power, or been damaged with a lucky hit that prevented it
from escaping.
Since they obviously had power and worked when the Dalek was
rebuilt as did the weapon, and the national grid wouldn't have
been able to recharge either of them--like how much power do
you need to anti-gravity these days?--they were obviously still
working back in the 9th century.
My point is that anything could have been repaired when the Dalek
is being rebuilt.
With what?
What was the rest of it repaired with? We only saw the gun and a bit
of armour before it repaired itself. And possibly the engines just
needed power.
Oh, so all a Dalek anti-gravity engine needs to power it is a
lithium-ion battery from the pound shop. Yer right.

Chibnall's writing is appalling. He doesn't have a clue how to write
scientific fiction and resorts to magic.

If the Dalek had the power to teleport then how was is ever captured in
the first place when it would have just teleported out.
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The only thing we know was still functional after the
Dalek was dismantled is the gun - it could have had a damaged
eyestalk or engines that were repaired with the patch-up job.
Repaired with what? Have you ever tried repairing modern
electronic equipment? It's virtually impossible without specialized
tools, software, and spare parts from the original manufacturers.
And yet the Dalek managed.
Which makes to story even less believable.
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ships any more sophisticated than the ones they possessed back
in Africa?
They didn't posses any ships at all. ZILCH!
The coastal populations did. The Ethiopians occupied territory in
Yemen, for instance, and everyone had fishing boats. How do you
imagine the early people who left Africa in the first place got
around Southeast Asia or to Australia?
See my reply to solar penguin later on. Fishing boats to not sail open
seas, and only Europeans and the Arabs had the technology to do that.
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let alone armour, how did they get there and what
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use would they have been? How come there are no traces of them today?
a) Because it didn't happen since there was no Dalek to fight.
That doesn't mean it couldn't have happened.
The Dalek would have massacred millions and year no evidence of
bodies or burials or camp sites or human waste even exists.
I'll try this again slowly, Aggy. Daleks. Don't. Exist. Of course you
aren't going to find the remains of armies massacred by them or that
gathered to figh them.
The object of writing a story is to get the reader/viewer to suspend
their disbelief. If Chibnall wants the viewer to believe that the was a
Dalek which massacred millions in the time of King Alfred then it must
be based on historical reality of the bodies existing, or he has to
explain where they vanished. Chibnall doesn't have a fucking how to
write science fiction or historical fiction.
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b) We know hardly anything about population movements to and
from the UK in this or earlier periods. We do know that far
earlier
Oh yes we bloody well do. Read Gildas, the Anglo-Saxon Chronicles,
the Irish Chronicles, Bede, and there's lots of other texts to
supplement them too.
Few if any of which have much to say about population movements.
Because there weren't any, other than the movement of Celts,
Anglo-Saxons, Vikings, and Normans to the British Isles! Oh, and some
Trojans and Spartans, and in the time of Gildas some Moors that never
settled.
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people were moving in from the continent (such as Stonehenge
builders from the mainland) and we know that many Anglo-Saxon
burial goods were manufactured in mainland Europe (and possibly
Egypt, as one Sutton Hoo artefact may be Coptic) and in a small
number of cases from Asia (eastern Byzantine).
What we know is that there were no sub-Saharan Africans that set
foot in Britain at the time, or at any time before the slave
trade.
No we don't.
Oh__yes__we__do! There was only one invasion from Africa, and that was
by Gurmundus/Gormund who was a Byzantine vessel ruling over northern
Africa called in to depose Careticus/Kerdeic in 586, and going by the
name, of Germanic origin and probably descended from the Vandals that
invaded northern Africa in 435. So at beast there were probably Berbers
in his army, but NO sub-Saharan Africans. Berbers of course are white or
light brown skinned, and there are even some who are blond.
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And how the hell would they have been gathered in time? Did
king Alfred telephone the king of; were there even any
sub-Saharan African states beyond isolated tribes, in existence
at the time, that even had large enough armies or could even
unify their people? Just how stupid does Chibnall think the
audience is?
Did you read the timeline I helpfully provided in another
threat? The Africans had states, they reached the Iron Age 4-6
centuries later than the Europeans (i.e. it had been established
for about a milennium by the 9th Century), and they had steel
(though not hardened steel).
There was no iron smelting in West sub-Saharan Africa until after 1000 AD.
You've got the notation wrong - you must have meant BC.
I meant 1000 AD

"The oldest natural-draft furnaces yet found are in Burkina Faso and
date to the seventh/eight centuries. The large masses of slag (10,000 to
60,000 tons) noted in some locations in Togo, Burkina Faso and Mali
reflect the great expansion of iron production in West Africa after 1000
AD that is associated with the spread of natural-draft furnace
technology. But not all large scale iron production in Africa was
associated with natural draft furnaces".
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_metallurgy_in_Africa
"Iron smelting was practiced by the Nok culture of Nigeria from as early as 1000 BC".
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It wasn't until well into the Middle Ages that European cultures
developed significantly more advanced technology and more
centralised forms of government than those in sub-Saharan Africa and
You are talking absolute crap. Europeans developed complex
civilization since 2000 BC
And then lost them again. There's no linear progression - the
NO__THEY__DID__NOT!

The Roman Empire lasted in the East until 1453 AD, and by 1490 Western
Europeans had re-discovered the Americas. There was no loss of
civilization and no regression, only a progression.
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Anglo-Saxons and the rest of the Germanic groups of Western and
northern Europe could only somewhat generously be called states, and
to most intents and purposes they were tribes based around the
village or town as the major social unit. Heads of nominal states
like Wessex or Mercia weren't centralised rulers of the kind we'd
recognise in the feudal or later eras, they were just the biggest
regional chiefs. That's no different from the level of organisation
of most African kingdoms of the same or later periods, and a lower
level of organisation from the more sophisticated ones, like
Ethiopia.
The kingdoms of England after the fall of the city of Rome were client
states of the Byzantines as was Theodoric, and then client states of the
Holy Roman Empire founded by Charlemagne, and the Pope. There was
nothing unifying sub-Saharan Africa which did not even posses writing or
any kind of advanced learning, scholarship, or technology. England had
an advanced system of taxation, the feudal system, and diplomatic
relations with the rest of Europe with an exchange of culture and ideas.
Northern Africa was ruled by Islamic Caliphates at the same level of
scientific advancement as Europe including Byzantium. Sub-Saharan Africa
wasn't even at bronze age level and was nothing more than an isolated
tribal society with no centralized government, since that is the way it
was found by the first European explorers. It was effectively stone age
hunter gatherer by comparison. South America when discovered was
effectively copper age where civilizations were found and hunter
gatherer where they were not.
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the main technological advance that allowed the Europeans to
become dominant - the caravel - was both much later and not
relevant to armies' performance in the field.
The caravel was an ocean going ship and had no relevance to
anything except the re-discovery of the Americans.
The Americas came later - the principal importance of the caravel was
allowing dominance of the routes around Africa and to Asia, and the
mobility it provided European forces. Turns out long-distance
transport that involved sticking big guns on ships is a pretty
effective way to project power. The slave trade wouldn't have existed
without the ability to actually get to the places the slaves were
either harvested or sold. Read accounts of the voyage of Vasco de
Gama, for instance.
In other words then, without caravels it would not have been possible to
transport troops (which of course never existed to begin with) from
sub-Saharan Africa to fight against a Dalek in England at the time of
King Alfred.
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Don't say Roman times because there were no sub-Saharan
Africans that formed part of the Roman empire. The only
time Africans set foot in England was at the time of Gildas
where the king of the Moors (or some other Semitic origin
northern Africans) formed part of an invasion force of
Britain and Ireland.
Um, what? There were no Moors in Europe in the 6th Century,
and even if there had been and they'd visited Britain that by
itself would demonstrate that it's possible for African
armies could have reached the island.
This was a northern African army composed of mainly Semitic
peoples, controlled as a client state of the Byzantine empire.
Nope, the Byzantines never invaded Britain either. Have you been
reading some fantasy like Geoffrey of Monmouth again and
imagining that it represents reality? If you like that sort of
historical fiction might I recommend Harry Harrison's Hammer and
the Cross? It's marginally more plausible.
You are totally deranged and don't have the remotest clue about
history. After the fall of the Western Roman Empire, the island of
Ireland remained a client state of the Byzantines until around 1200
AD.
How could it have remained one when it wasn't one to begin with?
Ireland was never part of the Roman Empire in any form, and lacked
the indigenous organisation to form any kind of client state
agreement - it's been debated whether the Romans ever landed there,
and the country was a succession of feuding Irish and later Norse
rulers until long after England was unified.
Ireland was Christianized by the 5th century, and therefore implicitly
part of the Roman Empire, specifically a client state of Byzantium. You
do realize who Saint Patrick was, right? And there was Palladius as well.
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Here's another secret, Aggy: There was no Dalek in 9th
Century England. If there had been, and it had required
overseas allies to defeat, it's entirely internally
consistent to imagine foreign armies in Britain when none
existed in reality.
No it isn't. How did they get there by sea, since obviously
they didn't swim?
How did anyone get to the island by sea?
Yes, how did they get there by sea without swimming? They would
have needed ships, and they didn't have any.
My point being, people did get to England. If you're next to the
Channel, skin colour or cultural origin doesn't make any difference
to your ability to use a boat. Europeans made it repeatedly, there's
no reason Africans couldn't if they were in the area.
Do you seriously think that either the Franks or the Moors would have
allowed an army of sub-Saharan Africans to have crossed any part of
their territory to get to the English Channel so they could sail to
England? Just how ignorant and stupid are you?

The only ware an army could have got to England from sub-Saharan Africa
is if either sub-Saharan Africans or King Alfred controlled the Atlantic
coast, which they didn't! Besides which there was no army.
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That sounds like nonsense.
It's a fact.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/8106801/doctor-who-homophobic-killing-off-gay-character/
So it's someone else's nonsense. It's still nonsense.
It's still a fact.
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You should be asking the question, since when can a dead
life-form that was split into three pieces teleport and
then bring itself back to life?
No I shouldn't, for the simple reason that it doesn't make
any sense for it to have survived for 1,100 years however
many pieces it's cut into. If you can buy one part of that,
why not the other?
I'm not buying any of it. Which part of it contained its
brain? How did the others teleport without a brain? How did
they even communicate?
Space magic, of course. It's a millennium-old alien that manages
to reassemble itself through some sort of internal teleporter -
it's not intended to be over-analysed.
Why would it have three teleporters built into it? If there was
only one of them how did it locate the other parts. What kept all
the parts alive? Chibnall shat out absolute crap in viewers faces.
It's his job as a writer to explain what he wrote, not cut it
irrelevant mind numbing soap opera.
It's his job as a writer to tell a story, which may or may not
involve filling in all the details of the backstory.
Once again, why do Cylons sweat? It was even raised as a question by
a character in an episode and the series never answered it. This is
not a phenomenon restricted to Dr Who, but something seen throughout
TV, including actual sci-fi shows rather than kids' fantasies with
alien window-dressing like Dr Who.
Which Cylons are you talking about? The human ones?
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colleagues (hence the talk of the office party - you don't
bring part-time assistants to office parties), so it seems
as reasonable an
Yes you do. Even interns get to attend office parties.
Scientists don't have their field assistants in the office in
the first place. Only people who work in a building tend to be
invited to Christmas parties.
Twaddle. The field assistant would have been employed by the same
institution as the archaeologist, so would have been invited to
the office party.
I'm a scientist, Aggy - I do know how these things work.
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Oh you mean like the viewers who found Resolution to be
homophobic?
You, apparently, so yes.
So you think it's ok for Chibnall to be homophobic then?
He isn't, but it's illuminating that you're swallowing outraged
Oh, but he is. He's racist against both black and white people, sexist
against both men and women, homophobic, heterophobic, and a stupid
ignorant fool, because that is what political correctness always turns
you into.
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gibberish from other people, not just your own.
It's Chibnall and the bigoted, racist and sexist morons running the BBC
that have swallowed outraged gibberish from crazed lesbian feminist and
turned the Doctor into a woman in response. It bigoted, racist and
sexist morons that turned Achilles into a sub-Saharan African instead of
representing as a blond European as Homer described him, and then made
him gay, when the entire narrative and Plato's Symposium rules that out
completely, and on top of that didn't cast a single Greek actor in any
of the leading roles, in Troy: Fall of a City.

That is what political correctness always results in; institutionalized
racism, sexism, chauvinism, and bigotry!
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And that was all good and healthy, and it made people feel
included and taught them to think rationally and logically.
If the Carry Ons were a formative influence in teaching you to
think rationally and logically, I think we've discovered where
your warped understanding of 'reason' and 'logic' comes from.
The Carry On films were all logically though out and will be
remembered as classics, unlike the crap produced by Chibnall.
Fewer than half a dozen of them were even any good at the time, and
They were all good. If they were not then 30 odd films would never have
been made.
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most haven't aged well. Carry on Screaming is one of the most famous,
but I watched it again on Halloween and it was pretty bad - only
Don't Lose Your Head, Up the Khyber and Follow that Camel can be
considered classics, and in that order.
Which is not to say they weren't sexist.
There was nothing sexist about them at all.
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The "PC lobby" cries "sexist" about something like the Carry Ons
and insists that therefore it is to be condemned puritanically
and can't be enjoyed for what it is for fear of endorsing a
regressive attitude.
You spout gibberish about something like Dr Who and claim that
therefore it is to be condemned puritanically for fear that
enjoying something that treats women or black people vaguely
realistically would threaten your misogynistic and racist world
view.
It doesn't treat women and black people realistically. It thinks
that ticks boxes solves the underlying problems, when it fact it
makes them worse,
What underlying problems? The perceived problem is that boxes aren't
being ticked - that's all 'diversity' means in media-speak: not
The underlying problem is the black and ethnic writers are no given the
chance to write and produce shows for and about their own communities.
Instead you have racists like Chibnall inserting black actors to play
white characters in order to tick boxes which doesn't solve the problem
and is even more racist.
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enough people of a given demographic being portrayed in a
non-stereotyped role. So obviously box-ticking fixes the problem by
definition.
No it doesn't. The problem is as I described above and box ticking part
of it.
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The Carry On films on the other hand were not made to tick boxes
on someones political agenda. They were made to entertain. Ticking
boxes to fill racist, sexist, and homosexual quotas isn't
entertainment and serves no one.
Another way to look at it is that ticking boxes does no one any harm
when it doesn't do anything to significantly affect the stories being
told.
Box ticking is racist as has already been seen in Troy: Fall of a City
and in Rosa.
The Carry Ons would have worked just as well if Sid James had
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been black, for instance.
No they would not. The characters Sid James played did not represent
black people or ethnic minorities living in the UK. They represented
white working class Anglo-Saxons and that culture alone; which was all
perfectly fine since that was the main target audience.
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Fairly sure he said 'Hi Lynne' when she was introduced, but at
the very least he mentioned her name when the Doctor showed up.
That was far earlier than 10 minutes from the end.
Whittaker does noting in this episode until 10 minutes before the
end, just like in every episode.
She talked a lot, including mentioning the girl's name.
None can understand a word Whittaker spouts out of her gob in her stupid
accent.
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The Dalek doesn't care if it's outnumbered. All it has to do is fly
to safety.
Daleks never seem to have got the hang of retreating.
You mean writers have never got the hang of writing military science
fiction properly.
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imagine. Think how often Daleks are defeated by people
damaging the eye-stalk.
Was it shown to have a damaged eye stalk? It was working fine
when it was rebuilt.
Operative phrase: "When it was rebuilt".
How was it rebuilt if it was damaged?
Not much point rebuilding it if it wasn't.
If it wasn't damaged, then how was a Dalek defeated by damaging it as
you suggested above?
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sell space Dalek eye stalks?
Plenty of optical equipment and glassware around. If all else failed
it could always have raided the BBC studios for Dalek props.
Oh really. Do you realize how long it takes to grind a lens? Why would a
Dalek even be expected to know how to grind one. Where did it get the
abrasives from needed to grind one to begin with? It's takes hours to
build a PC and longer to get the parts delivered. How can a Dalek be
repaired in less than a day?
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I meant the reveal in Dalek was one of the best in Dr Who, not
this episode. Of course everyone was expecting it - that's
precisely my
The reveal in Dalek occurred in the first 10 minutes, not the last 10.
So did the reveal here. The Doctor learned it was a Dalek as soon as
she got a sample. We just didn't see a conventional Dalek body until
the end.
Viewers had to wait half the story for Whittaker to get the DNA by which
time everyone already know it was a Dalek, the entire testing the DNA
(most of which was padded by mind numbing soap opera concerning Ryans
dag) told the audience nothing that they didn't already know, and is
another example of Chibnall's bad writing. Finding out the a Dalek is a
Dalek does not constitute a plot.
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The convention with Dalek stories is that you know it's
the Daleks from the start, so there's no mystery about what
they are and therefore the writer doesn't do mystery, they
do threat, and there wasn't any kind of threat to Whittaker
in this episode, just like she has never been under any
real threat in any of the others she's been in.
How often were Matt Smith or Peter Capaldi ever at any
apparent risk to their lives? That's something that's largely
been lost from Dr Who.
Whittaker has never been at any apparent risk ever.
No. My point was that that's also the case for other recent
Doctors. It's the way the stories are now written.
Bad writing is not justification for bad writing, and there has
been more of it under Whittaker than any other Doctor including
McCoy.
Under Whittaker? I don't think she has any involvement in the
script.
Tom Baker was involved in giving himself better lines in his script.
Whittaker doesn't even have the talent to do that.
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Why? It was fairly funny and it's not as though anyone whose
opinions are worth caring about gets upset about digs at Brexit.
The entire thing is farcical in both concept and execution - if
anything making jokes about it is just too easy a target.
It has nothing to do with the plot and took away all hope Chibnall
ever had to creating any kind of tension.
It's a Dr Who special, Aggy. Chibnall played it more as 'straight Dr
Who' than most of the specials, but it was still more light-hearted
than his main series. It's not aiming for serious dramatic tension.
What? There was nothing Doctor Who about it at all. Siri has already
shown that it was entirely conceived as a story about Ryan getting back
together with his dad and resolving (hence Resolution) their issues,
with a Dalek thrown in because the BBC is obliged to feature Daleks in
every season or else lose the rights.

Chibnall doesn't have a clue how to write science fiction.
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Once again, it's Dr Who. If you're expecting it to be anything
else you've been watching the wrong series for decades.
The classic series was not tosh like this one is.
Did you watch the Planet of the Spiders clip?
No. I've already read the novelisation.
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In other words have people discover the parts in a state of
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undecaying preservation, transport them to one place, and then
stitch them back together and reanimate them, like
Frankenstein's monster.
Or you can have a dormant Dalek being passed between collectors
for years until it gets reactivated by contact with the Doctor in
van
It was activated by contact with Rose, and it had infinitely more
credibility than Chibnall crap fest.
It first woke up when the Doctor introduced himself.
But it powered itself when Rose touched it.
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Statten's lab. Yes, the Dalek-in-pieces version is a lot harder
to swallow but that does nothing to affect the actual storyline
or the underlying concept: Dormant Dalek is present on Earth,
something reactivates it, Dalek goes on the rampage.
That not the story in science fiction terms. The story is how a
Dalek separated into 3 pieces and buried underground can survive
1100 years and then teleport and stitch itself back together again,
without resorting to magic.
That's not the story that was being told,
Unfortunately that would have been a better story than the one that was
told, which had nothing to do with Daleks, but was about Ryan's dad.
and anyway it did resort to
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Because Chibnall can't think.
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fact that Dalek gives a more sensible backstory is neither here
nor there.
Wrong. RTD himself said that to be a writer you have to complete
what you are writing, and that means tying up all lose ends.
Chibnall has never done that.
He tied up the loose ends relevant to the story - the Dalek was
No he did not. See above.
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disposed of. RTD didn't mean explaining every element of the
backstory.
Yes he did, since it was not told properly and left unfinished. Instead
of telling the parts that were missing, Chibnall replaced them with a
totally irrelevant story about Ryan's dad.
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Doctor Who plots were perfectly credible and well written
before the Colin Bakers second series, and even the Sylvester
McCoy era was far better written than anything Chibnall has
shat out in the past series.
I'll just leave this here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VvZ-VaeB5g
There's a reason the new Who Honest Trailer ends with this
sequence...
And your point is what?
You'd really use the word 'credible' to describe that?
You were complaining about moths and talking frogs in one recent
episode, but talking spiders are fine?
The exposition in Planet of the Spiders explained the spiders, their
ability to talk, and justified why they were there. There was no
exposition concerning the need or requirement for a talking frog.
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Hardly a fair comparison and you know it. That was at the height
of Dr Who's popularity, Tennant was easily the most popular
Doctor of the modern era, and that episode was part of the same
story as the
Christmas episode so people were tuning in to see how it
concluded.
Oh, but if you read the BBC's pre-written reviews, Whittaker is
the height of Doctor Who's popularity, with 10.9 million viewers.
I don't even know where I'd find the BBC's pre-written reviews, but
You'd find them in the left wing newspapers and magazines supporting
Whittaker.
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Dr Who has done a lot better than 10.9 million since 2005. I doubt
anyone's seriously claiming this season has been one of the more
popular ones - simply on the figures that's wrong. It's only doing
better than the last couple of years - Moffatt's too-long reign cost
the series most of its viewership. It's still averaging around 2
million more viewers than season 9, which was itself a better
performer than season 10.
Wrong. It was Moffats SJW PC lunatic agenda that cost Doctor Who 2
million viewers, and if Series 11 had been shown on a Saturday like
Capaldi it would have averaged 600,000 less viewers than Capaldi did,
given that Whittakers seasonal special was 600,000 down on Capaldi's.
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Where have
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they all gone? Tennant lasted 4 years and gained viewers.
Whittaker's lost them all in 10 episodes,
I don't think comparing the season average with the first episode is
reasonable. There was an excessive amount of hype for Whittaker's
first outing even compared with a normal new Doctor debut just
because she was a female Doctor. Likely more people than usual who
abandoned Dr Who years ago tuned in as a result, realised that it was
ultimately much the same and that the Doctor's sex change didn't
actually add anything, and left again.
She should be seen as retaining a million or more viewers over the
season compared with the last couple of years, rather than losing 5
million overnight.
No. She should be seen as costing the series another 600,000 viewers. If
it were shown on a Saturday up against the X Factor, instead on an
uncontested slot on a Sunday, it would have plunged below 2.4 million.
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Repaired with what? Have you ever tried repairing modern
electronic equipment? It's virtually impossible without specialized
tools, software, and spare parts from the original manufacturers.
And yet the Dalek managed.
Which makes to story even less believable.
You've come to the wrong place if you want a series that's believable.
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let alone armour, how did they get there and what
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use would they have been? How come there are no traces of them today?
a) Because it didn't happen since there was no Dalek to fight.
That doesn't mean it couldn't have happened.
The Dalek would have massacred millions and year no evidence of
bodies or burials or camp sites or human waste even exists.
I'll try this again slowly, Aggy. Daleks. Don't. Exist. Of course you
aren't going to find the remains of armies massacred by them or that
gathered to figh them.
The object of writing a story is to get the reader/viewer to suspend
their disbelief. If Chibnall wants the viewer to believe that the was a
Dalek which massacred millions in the time of King Alfred then it must
be based on historical reality of the bodies existing, or he has to
explain where they vanished.
No he doesn't. Virtually no one is even going to think 'where did the bodies go' any more than they do in any historical episode of Dr Who with battles that didn't occur in reality, and there are plenty of major battles in history we know took place that have left no remains anyone has yet found. Given your insistence on the reality of the Trojan War, where are the bodies? No one ever found any remains of an invading army around the remains of the city now generally accepted to have been Troy. Returning to reality, no one's ever found the site of the Battle of Watling Street - or, to be squarely contemporary with the story, no remains are known from the Battle of Edington.

You see, Aggy, the problem is that people writing these things will expect their audience either not to care about the remains or to understand how archaeology works. They aren't banking on the minority who are both anal enough to worry about it and ignorant enough not to understand that it's actually plausible for no traces of an army to exist.

Chibnall doesn't have a fucking how to
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write science fiction or historical fiction.
So he writes Dr Who, which isn't properly described as either.
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b) We know hardly anything about population movements to and
from the UK in this or earlier periods. We do know that far
earlier
Oh yes we bloody well do. Read Gildas, the Anglo-Saxon Chronicles,
the Irish Chronicles, Bede, and there's lots of other texts to
supplement them too.
Few if any of which have much to say about population movements.
Because there weren't any, other than the movement of Celts,
Anglo-Saxons, Vikings, and Normans to the British Isles! Oh, and some
Trojans and Spartans, and in the time of Gildas some Moors that never
settled.
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. We've already seen that you've made this error with Herodotus, concluding that Herodotus wasn't aware of more than one African population outside Europe because he only mentioned the African ethnicity of one population. Even though he himself said he was aware of others.
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people were moving in from the continent (such as Stonehenge
builders from the mainland) and we know that many Anglo-Saxon
burial goods were manufactured in mainland Europe (and possibly
Egypt, as one Sutton Hoo artefact may be Coptic) and in a small
number of cases from Asia (eastern Byzantine).
What we know is that there were no sub-Saharan Africans that set
foot in Britain at the time, or at any time before the slave
trade.
No we don't.
Oh__yes__we__do! There was only one invasion from Africa, and that was
by Gurmundus/Gormund
Really? Monmouth's king of Ireland is your Byzantine African invader? This character is not attested in any credible historical source, and seems to be invoked today mostly by black power groups who imagine the Norse and English knights were black, based on a Google search. I'm sure you'd have some fun discussions with them.

who was a Byzantine vessel ruling over northern

Pretty sure no one, not even Monmouth, makes any claim that Gormund had any association with the Byzantines.
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And how the hell would they have been gathered in time? Did
king Alfred telephone the king of; were there even any
sub-Saharan African states beyond isolated tribes, in existence
at the time, that even had large enough armies or could even
unify their people? Just how stupid does Chibnall think the
audience is?
Did you read the timeline I helpfully provided in another
threat? The Africans had states, they reached the Iron Age 4-6
centuries later than the Europeans (i.e. it had been established
for about a milennium by the 9th Century), and they had steel
(though not hardened steel).
There was no iron smelting in West sub-Saharan Africa until after 1000 AD.
You've got the notation wrong - you must have meant BC.
I meant 1000 AD
So why quote a passage that refers to the use of draft furnaces in the seventh and eighth centuries AD, and refers to a different technology than iron smelting? Especially as the same passage also states that this wasn't the only form of large-scale iron production in the region.
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It wasn't until well into the Middle Ages that European cultures
developed significantly more advanced technology and more
centralised forms of government than those in sub-Saharan Africa and
You are talking absolute crap. Europeans developed complex
civilization since 2000 BC
And then lost them again. There's no linear progression - the
NO__THEY__DID__NOT!
The Roman Empire lasted in the East until 1453 AD,
And not in the West, which is the area relevant to events in and around England. As with sub-Saharan Africa Europe was not a homogenous blob.
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Anglo-Saxons and the rest of the Germanic groups of Western and
northern Europe could only somewhat generously be called states, and
to most intents and purposes they were tribes based around the
village or town as the major social unit. Heads of nominal states
like Wessex or Mercia weren't centralised rulers of the kind we'd
recognise in the feudal or later eras, they were just the biggest
regional chiefs. That's no different from the level of organisation
of most African kingdoms of the same or later periods, and a lower
level of organisation from the more sophisticated ones, like
Ethiopia.
The kingdoms of England after the fall of the city of Rome were client
states of the Byzantines
That would have surprised them.

England had
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an advanced system of taxation, the feudal system,
Not in the 9th Century. It wasn't a single state for another century, and feudalism was introduced by the Normans.

Sub-Saharan Africa
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wasn't even at bronze age level
You understand that 'Bronze Age' refers to the use of that metal, and that 'Iron Age' refers to the use of iron? We've already exhaustively established that sub-Saharan Africa was using iron for a thousand years before the 9th Century, and that it was sufficiently widespread that multiple methods of iron and steel production were in use before the time of this story.

and was nothing more than an isolated
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tribal society with no centralized government, since that is the way it
was found by the first European explorers.
Different states have come and gone. This is like claiming the Maya never built cities because they were living in villages by the time the Europeans reached the Americas, or visiting Britain in the 5th Century and concluding that the Romans had never been there because the people were back to living in tribes.

Of course, there's also the fact that the Europeans encountered multiple sophisticated African societies as well as monumental architecture in Great Zimbabwe. The Portuguese actively cultivated relations with Kongo. The Ashanti fought the British and won. The Zulu had a civil service. Much of the reason later African societies became fragmented was the result of Europeans destabilising the native kingdoms, it wasn't the way Europeans first encountered them.
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the main technological advance that allowed the Europeans to
become dominant - the caravel - was both much later and not
relevant to armies' performance in the field.
The caravel was an ocean going ship and had no relevance to
anything except the re-discovery of the Americans.
The Americas came later - the principal importance of the caravel was
allowing dominance of the routes around Africa and to Asia, and the
mobility it provided European forces. Turns out long-distance
transport that involved sticking big guns on ships is a pretty
effective way to project power. The slave trade wouldn't have existed
without the ability to actually get to the places the slaves were
either harvested or sold. Read accounts of the voyage of Vasco de
Gama, for instance.
In other words then, without caravels it would not have been possible to
transport troops (which of course never existed to begin with) from
sub-Saharan Africa to fight against a Dalek in England at the time of
King Alfred.
Once again, no one other than you has suggested they would have sailed, any more than the Romans sailed when they went in the opposite direction.
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You are totally deranged and don't have the remotest clue about
history. After the fall of the Western Roman Empire, the island of
Ireland remained a client state of the Byzantines until around 1200
AD.
How could it have remained one when it wasn't one to begin with?
Ireland was never part of the Roman Empire in any form, and lacked
the indigenous organisation to form any kind of client state
agreement - it's been debated whether the Romans ever landed there,
and the country was a succession of feuding Irish and later Norse
rulers until long after England was unified.
Ireland was Christianized by the 5th century, and therefore implicitly
part of the Roman Empire,
So, was Ethiopia implicitly part of the Roman Empire because it was Christian? Was Iceland in the 10th Century? There's no such thing as an "implicit part of the Roman Empire" let alone an implicit client state.

specifically a client state of Byzantium. You
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do realize who Saint Patrick was, right?
A British missionary. What does that have to do with Byzantium? Spreading the Roman religion does not make anyone part of a Roman political territory, any more than Nigeria is part of England because its predominant religion is Anglicanism.

And there was Palladius as well.

The Gaul?
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Here's another secret, Aggy: There was no Dalek in 9th
Century England. If there had been, and it had required
overseas allies to defeat, it's entirely internally
consistent to imagine foreign armies in Britain when none
existed in reality.
No it isn't. How did they get there by sea, since obviously
they didn't swim?
How did anyone get to the island by sea?
Yes, how did they get there by sea without swimming? They would
have needed ships, and they didn't have any.
My point being, people did get to England. If you're next to the
Channel, skin colour or cultural origin doesn't make any difference
to your ability to use a boat. Europeans made it repeatedly, there's
no reason Africans couldn't if they were in the area.
Do you seriously think that either the Franks or the Moors would have
allowed an army of sub-Saharan Africans to have crossed any part of
their territory to get to the English Channel so they could sail to
England? Just how ignorant and stupid are you?
Presumably they were allied against the Daleks too.

Or perhaps we've been looking at this all wrong and the guy wasn't from sub-Saharan Africa at all. After all, if we believe Geoffrey of Monmouth there were resident Africans in Ireland and Cornwall. How can you base one claim on a character from Geoffrey of Monmouth and insist until you're blue in the face that there were no black people in Britain when Monmouth insists there were plenty of "Africans" already settled?
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You should be asking the question, since when can a dead
life-form that was split into three pieces teleport and
then bring itself back to life?
No I shouldn't, for the simple reason that it doesn't make
any sense for it to have survived for 1,100 years however
many pieces it's cut into. If you can buy one part of that,
why not the other?
I'm not buying any of it. Which part of it contained its
brain? How did the others teleport without a brain? How did
they even communicate?
Space magic, of course. It's a millennium-old alien that manages
to reassemble itself through some sort of internal teleporter -
it's not intended to be over-analysed.
Why would it have three teleporters built into it? If there was
only one of them how did it locate the other parts. What kept all
the parts alive? Chibnall shat out absolute crap in viewers faces.
It's his job as a writer to explain what he wrote, not cut it
irrelevant mind numbing soap opera.
It's his job as a writer to tell a story, which may or may not
involve filling in all the details of the backstory.
Once again, why do Cylons sweat? It was even raised as a question by
a character in an episode and the series never answered it. This is
not a phenomenon restricted to Dr Who, but something seen throughout
TV, including actual sci-fi shows rather than kids' fantasies with
alien window-dressing like Dr Who.
Which Cylons are you talking about? The human ones?
Yes. It was never explained in the series why they looked human or how they developed the technology to do so - it was only 'God's' doing, i.e. space magic.

Why can BSG get away with that but Dr Who can't?
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So you think it's ok for Chibnall to be homophobic then?
He isn't, but it's illuminating that you're swallowing outraged
Oh, but he is. He's racist against both black and white people, sexist
against both men and women, homophobic, heterophobic,
Both homophobic and heterophobic, eh? That's quite a feat - isn't it easier to say he hates everyone except asexuals, or is he aphobic as well?

and a stupid
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ignorant fool, because that is what political correctness always turns
you into.
You must be exceedingly politically correct, in that case.

and on top of that didn't cast a single Greek actor in any
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of the leading roles, in Troy: Fall of a City.
Now you're getting the point. Your upset at people not casting Greek actors is exactly why box-ticking exists: because other demographics get similarly upset that they aren't being represented sufficiently.
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That is what political correctness always results in; institutionalized
racism, sexism, chauvinism, and bigotry!
So now the gender pay gap is the fault of political correctness?
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They were all good. If they were not then 30 odd films would never have
been made.
Well, that gives me an easy argument. Dr Who season 11 must be good. If it wasn't then 11 odd episodes would never have been made.
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It doesn't treat women and black people realistically. It thinks
that ticks boxes solves the underlying problems, when it fact it
makes them worse,
What underlying problems? The perceived problem is that boxes aren't
being ticked - that's all 'diversity' means in media-speak: not
The underlying problem is the black and ethnic writers are no given the
chance to write and produce shows for and about their own communities.
Instead you have racists like Chibnall inserting black actors to play
white characters in order to tick boxes which doesn't solve the problem
and is even more racist.
This isn't America, Aggy. British communities haven't traditionally been seen as subdividing by race and the British ethos is one of multiculturalism, not of self-segregated cultures living alongside one another (for all that that ethos may depart somewhat from reality). We don't have a media culture or producing shows for black communities or Asian communities - and our media wants shows featuring those communities to be presented in a way that makes them accessible to everyone, so we get shows like Goodness Gracious Me instead of The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air.

That doesn't mean that the UK's media culture is where it should be in terms of having black, female and Asian people direct, and you may well be right that there's some cultural blindness of the sort "if they're in the shows as actors, they're represented. Job done". But the solution does not lie in removing them from TV roles, and certainly not in encouraging segregation in programming.
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enough people of a given demographic being portrayed in a
non-stereotyped role. So obviously box-ticking fixes the problem by
definition.
No it doesn't. The problem is as I described above and box ticking part
of it.
People want to see their demographic represented, just as you want to see Greek actors.
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The Carry Ons would have worked just as well if Sid James had
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been black, for instance.
No they would not. The characters Sid James played did not represent
black people or ethnic minorities living in the UK. They represented
white working class Anglo-Saxons and that culture alone; which was all
perfectly fine since that was the main target audience.
Sir Sidney Effing was working class?

And if a South African Jew can represent 'Anglo-Saxon' Brits, why can't a black actor? I don't imagine the working class experience is particularly different for black Britons.
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The Dalek doesn't care if it's outnumbered. All it has to do is fly
to safety.
Daleks never seem to have got the hang of retreating.
You mean writers have never got the hang of writing military science
fiction properly.
Take it up with the writers of every Dalek and Cyberman story.
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Do you know of any stores that
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sell space Dalek eye stalks?
Plenty of optical equipment and glassware around. If all else failed
it could always have raided the BBC studios for Dalek props.
Oh really. Do you realize how long it takes to grind a lens? Why would a
Dalek even be expected to know how to grind one. Where did it get the
abrasives from needed to grind one to begin with? It's takes hours to
build a PC and longer to get the parts delivered. How can a Dalek be
repaired in less than a day?
It was repaired in less than a day - you saw that it was. If you can swallow that you can swallow that it had the ability to repair any battle damage from its previous encounter.
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Under Whittaker? I don't think she has any involvement in the script.
Tom Baker was involved in giving himself better lines in his script.
Whittaker doesn't even have the talent to do that.
I don't think any Doctor other than Baker has ever done that. And it wouldn't have mattered if Hartnell had because he wouldn't have remembered the lines anyway.
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What? There was nothing Doctor Who about it at all. Siri has already
shown that it was entirely conceived as a story about Ryan getting back
together with his dad and resolving (hence Resolution)
Pretty sure that was a parody of your insistence that it's all soap opera, not a serious review.
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Doctor Who plots were perfectly credible and well written
before the Colin Bakers second series, and even the Sylvester
McCoy era was far better written than anything Chibnall has
shat out in the past series.
I'll just leave this here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VvZ-VaeB5g
There's a reason the new Who Honest Trailer ends with this
sequence...
And your point is what?
You'd really use the word 'credible' to describe that?
You were complaining about moths and talking frogs in one recent
episode, but talking spiders are fine?
The exposition in Planet of the Spiders explained the spiders, their
ability to talk, and justified why they were there. There was no
exposition concerning the need or requirement for a talking frog.
Grace liked frog and we'd already established the universe could talk through avatars.
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Dr Who has done a lot better than 10.9 million since 2005. I doubt
anyone's seriously claiming this season has been one of the more
popular ones - simply on the figures that's wrong. It's only doing
better than the last couple of years - Moffatt's too-long reign cost
the series most of its viewership. It's still averaging around 2
million more viewers than season 9, which was itself a better
performer than season 10.
Wrong. It was Moffats SJW PC lunatic agenda that cost Doctor Who 2
million viewers,
You don't think it's just because the episodes was crap and the companions tedious?
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Repaired with what? Have you ever tried repairing modern
electronic equipment? It's virtually impossible without
specialized tools, software, and spare parts from the original
manufacturers.
And yet the Dalek managed.
Which makes to story even less believable.
You've come to the wrong place if you want a series that's
believable.
It's the show-runner's duty to make the series believable.
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let alone armour, how did they get there and what
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use would they have been? How come there are no traces of
them today?
a) Because it didn't happen since there was no Dalek to
fight. That doesn't mean it couldn't have happened.
The Dalek would have massacred millions and year no evidence
of bodies or burials or camp sites or human waste even exists.
I'll try this again slowly, Aggy. Daleks. Don't. Exist. Of course
you aren't going to find the remains of armies massacred by them
or that gathered to figh them.
The object of writing a story is to get the reader/viewer to
suspend their disbelief. If Chibnall wants the viewer to believe
that the was a Dalek which massacred millions in the time of King
Alfred then it must be based on historical reality of the bodies
existing, or he has to explain where they vanished.
No he doesn't. Virtually no one is even going to think 'where did the
bodies go' any more than they do in any historical episode of Dr Who
Yes they are, especially when people are seen conducting an
archaeological dig. Bodies are the first thing they will think of.
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with battles that didn't occur in reality, and there are plenty of
major battles in history we know took place that have left no remains
We are talking of battles on a scale which never existed historically.
Therefore the lack of bodies must be explained.
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anyone has yet found. Given your insistence on the reality of the
Trojan War, where are the bodies? No one ever found any remains of an
The Trojan War was a historical fact.
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invading army around the remains of the city now generally accepted
to have been Troy. Returning to reality, no one's ever found the site
Yes they did. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy#Korfmann
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of the Battle of Watling Street - or, to be squarely contemporary
with the story, no remains are known from the Battle of Edington.
Neither of which were on the scale of the Battle of the Solitary Dalek.
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You see, Aggy, the problem is that people writing these things will
expect their audience either not to care about the remains or to
Treating your audience as idiots is the height of bad writing, and the
last thing you do if you are writing science fiction.
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understand how archaeology works. They aren't banking on the minority
who are both anal enough to worry about it and ignorant enough not to
understand that it's actually plausible for no traces of an army to
exist.
Only an imbecile would think that about a story featuring an
archaeological dig.
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Chibnall doesn't have a fucking how to
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write science fiction or historical fiction.
So he writes Dr Who, which isn't properly described as either.
Chibnall shouldn't be writing Doctor Who. He's an imbecile.
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b) We know hardly anything about population movements to and
from the UK in this or earlier periods. We do know that far
earlier
Oh yes we bloody well do. Read Gildas, the Anglo-Saxon
Chronicles, the Irish Chronicles, Bede, and there's lots of
other texts to supplement them too.
Few if any of which have much to say about population movements.
Because there weren't any, other than the movement of Celts,
Anglo-Saxons, Vikings, and Normans to the British Isles! Oh, and
some Trojans and Spartans, and in the time of Gildas some Moors
that never settled.
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. We've already seen
that you've made this error with Herodotus, concluding that Herodotus
wasn't aware of more than one African population outside Europe
because he only mentioned the African ethnicity of one population.
Even though he himself said he was aware of others.
Herodotus was not aware of any African populations in Europe, PERIOD!
The only black Africans he knew of outside of Africa were the
Aethiopians near Colchis and that was technically in Asia.

The only traces of African DNA found in ancient Britain are fully
consistent with just one invasion occurring in the time of Gildas led by
a Germanic king of northern Africa. And that's all you have and nothing
more.
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people were moving in from the continent (such as Stonehenge
builders from the mainland) and we know that many
Anglo-Saxon burial goods were manufactured in mainland Europe
(and possibly Egypt, as one Sutton Hoo artefact may be
Coptic) and in a small number of cases from Asia (eastern
Byzantine).
What we know is that there were no sub-Saharan Africans that
set foot in Britain at the time, or at any time before the
slave trade.
No we don't.
Oh__yes__we__do! There was only one invasion from Africa, and that
was by Gurmundus/Gormund
Really? Monmouth's king of Ireland is your Byzantine African invader?
He was an invader that deposed the kind of Ireland.

"After Malgo succeeded Careticus, a lover of civil war, and hateful to
God and to the Britons. The Saxons, discovering his fickle disposition,
went to Ireland for Gormund, king of the Africans, who had arrived there
with a very great fleet, and had subdued that country. From thence, at
their traitorous instigation, he sailed over into Britain, which the
perfidious Saxons in one part, in another the Britons by their continual
wars among themselves were wholly laying waste. Entering therefore into
alliance with the Saxons, he made war upon king Careticus, and after
several battles fought, drove him from city to city, till at length he
forced him to Cirecester, and there besieged him. Here Isembard, the
nephew of Lewis, king of the Franks, came and made a league of amity
with him, and out of respect to him renounced the Christian faith, on
condition that he would assist him to gain the kingdom of Gaul from his
uncle, by whom, he said, he was forcibly and unjustly expelled out of
it. At last, after taking and burning the city, he had another fight
with Careticus, and made him flee beyond the Severn into Wales. He then
made an utter devastation of the country, set fire to the adjacent
cities, and continued these outrages until he had almost burned up the
whole surface of the island from the one sea to the other; so that the
tillage was everywhere destroyed, and a general destruction made of the
husbandmen and clergy, with fire and sword. This terrible calamity
caused the rest to flee whithersoever they had any hopes of safety."

After this Monmouth repeats Gildas' upbraiding of the Britons, which you
can find in its original form elsewhere.
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This character is not attested in any credible historical source, and
Oh yes he is. He's referred to be Monmouth, see above, and in the Irish
Chronicles, as well as being the reason for Gilda's flight to Ireland
and his castigation of the Britons.
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seems to be invoked today mostly by black power groups who imagine
the Norse and English knights were black, based on a Google search.
I'm sure you'd have some fun discussions with them.
I'm sure Chibanll and the racists running the BBC have already fallen
for their lies and propaganda.
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who was a Byzantine vessel ruling over northern
Pretty sure no one, not even Monmouth, makes any claim that Gormund
had any association with the Byzantines.
Ireland was a Byzantine client state at the time. Learn some Byzantine
history.
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And how the hell would they have been gathered in time?
Did king Alfred telephone the king of; were there even any
sub-Saharan African states beyond isolated tribes, in
existence at the time, that even had large enough armies or
could even unify their people? Just how stupid does
Chibnall think the audience is?
Did you read the timeline I helpfully provided in another
threat? The Africans had states, they reached the Iron Age
4-6 centuries later than the Europeans (i.e. it had been
established for about a milennium by the 9th Century), and
they had steel (though not hardened steel).
There was no iron smelting in West sub-Saharan Africa until
after 1000 AD.
You've got the notation wrong - you must have meant BC.
I meant 1000 AD
So why quote a passage that refers to the use of draft furnaces in
the seventh and eighth centuries AD, and refers to a different
technology than iron smelting? Especially as the same passage also
states that this wasn't the only form of large-scale iron production
in the region.
Because it proves they couldn't melt iron even in the 11th century AD.
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It wasn't until well into the Middle Ages that European
cultures developed significantly more advanced technology and
more centralised forms of government than those in
sub-Saharan Africa and
You are talking absolute crap. Europeans developed complex
civilization since 2000 BC
And then lost them again. There's no linear progression - the
NO__THEY__DID__NOT!
The Roman Empire lasted in the East until 1453 AD,
And not in the West, which is the area relevant to events in and
around England. As with sub-Saharan Africa Europe was not a
homogenous blob.
More evidence of you total cluelessness. The Holy Roman Empire survived
in the West as Germany until the Kaiser (oh I wonder where that word
came from, could it possibly be Caesar) was deposed after WW1.
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Anglo-Saxons and the rest of the Germanic groups of Western and
northern Europe could only somewhat generously be called states,
and to most intents and purposes they were tribes based around
the village or town as the major social unit. Heads of nominal
states like Wessex or Mercia weren't centralised rulers of the
kind we'd recognise in the feudal or later eras, they were just
the biggest regional chiefs. That's no different from the level
of organisation of most African kingdoms of the same or later
periods, and a lower level of organisation from the more
sophisticated ones, like Ethiopia.
The kingdoms of England after the fall of the city of Rome were
client states of the Byzantines
That would have surprised them.
The fact is that they were. The Greek Theodore of Tarsus was appointed
Archbishop of Canterbury not long after Augustine. Manuel II visited
Britain in the reign of Henry IV, and as common enemies of the Franks
the descendants of the imperial Palaeologus dynasty acted as mercenaries
for the crown.
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England had
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an advanced system of taxation, the feudal system,
Not in the 9th Century. It wasn't a single state for another century,
and feudalism was introduced by the Normans.
England was united under Athelston, Alfred's grandson.
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Sub-Saharan Africa
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wasn't even at bronze age level
You understand that 'Bronze Age' refers to the use of that metal, and
You understand what 'level' means?
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that 'Iron Age' refers to the use of iron? We've already exhaustively
established that sub-Saharan Africa was using iron for a thousand
No we haven't. There's no evidence of common usage. Manufacture possibly.
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years before the 9th Century, and that it was sufficiently widespread
that multiple methods of iron and steel production were in use before
the time of this story.
The ancient Greeks and Europeans were making iron since 2000 BC. 2000 BC
up until 1100 BC was still officially the Bronze age. Making iron is not
equivalent to it being the dominant and most common metal being used.
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and was nothing more than an isolated
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tribal society with no centralized government, since that is the
way it was found by the first European explorers.
Different states have come and gone. This is like claiming the Maya
never built cities because they were living in villages by the time
the Europeans reached the Americas, or visiting Britain in the 5th
Century and concluding that the Romans had never been there because
the people were back to living in tribes.
Except they were NOT! In the 5th Century King Arthur (Riothamus) was
capable of a massing an army large enough to attack Rome and
Constantinople.
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Of course, there's also the fact that the Europeans encountered
multiple sophisticated African societies as well as monumental
architecture in Great Zimbabwe. The Portuguese actively cultivated
relations with Kongo. The Ashanti fought the British and won. The
Zulu had a civil service. Much of the reason later African societies
became fragmented was the result of Europeans destabilising the
native kingdoms, it wasn't the way Europeans first encountered them.
These societies when encountered were still effectively Bronze age
civilizations.
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the main technological advance that allowed the Europeans to
become dominant - the caravel - was both much later and not
relevant to armies' performance in the field.
The caravel was an ocean going ship and had no relevance to
anything except the re-discovery of the Americans.
The Americas came later - the principal importance of the caravel
was allowing dominance of the routes around Africa and to Asia,
and the mobility it provided European forces. Turns out
long-distance transport that involved sticking big guns on ships
is a pretty effective way to project power. The slave trade
wouldn't have existed without the ability to actually get to the
places the slaves were either harvested or sold. Read accounts of
the voyage of Vasco de Gama, for instance.
In other words then, without caravels it would not have been
possible to transport troops (which of course never existed to
begin with) from sub-Saharan Africa to fight against a Dalek in
England at the time of King Alfred.
Once again, no one other than you has suggested they would have
sailed, any more than the Romans sailed when they went in the
opposite direction.
You think the Roman's swam the Bospherous? Because they certainly didn't
take the route by land across Scythia to get to Palestine. And of course
only a fool would think that Caesar swam to Egypt to go after Pompey.
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You are totally deranged and don't have the remotest clue
about history. After the fall of the Western Roman Empire, the
island of Ireland remained a client state of the Byzantines
until around 1200 AD.
How could it have remained one when it wasn't one to begin with?
Ireland was never part of the Roman Empire in any form, and
lacked the indigenous organisation to form any kind of client
state agreement - it's been debated whether the Romans ever
landed there, and the country was a succession of feuding Irish
and later Norse rulers until long after England was unified.
Ireland was Christianized by the 5th century, and therefore
implicitly part of the Roman Empire,
So, was Ethiopia implicitly part of the Roman Empire because it was
Christian? Was Iceland in the 10th Century? There's no such thing as
an "implicit part of the Roman Empire" let alone an implicit client
state.
Ethiopia was a client state of the Byzantines, just like Ireland was.
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specifically a client state of Byzantium. You
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do realize who Saint Patrick was, right?
A British missionary. What does that have to do with Byzantium?
Spreading the Roman religion does not make anyone part of a Roman
political territory, any more than Nigeria is part of England because
its predominant religion is Anglicanism.
The Christian religion was controlled by the Papacy and the Papacy was
at the center of Rome at the time we are discussing, and the equivalent
to the modern day EU.
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And there was Palladius as well.
The Gaul?
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Here's another secret, Aggy: There was no Dalek in 9th
Century England. If there had been, and it had required
overseas allies to defeat, it's entirely internally
consistent to imagine foreign armies in Britain when
none existed in reality.
No it isn't. How did they get there by sea, since
obviously they didn't swim?
How did anyone get to the island by sea?
Yes, how did they get there by sea without swimming? They
would have needed ships, and they didn't have any.
My point being, people did get to England. If you're next to the
Channel, skin colour or cultural origin doesn't make any
difference to your ability to use a boat. Europeans made it
repeatedly, there's no reason Africans couldn't if they were in
the area.
Do you seriously think that either the Franks or the Moors would
have allowed an army of sub-Saharan Africans to have crossed any
part of their territory to get to the English Channel so they could
sail to England? Just how ignorant and stupid are you?
Presumably they were allied against the Daleks too.
Or perhaps we've been looking at this all wrong and the guy wasn't
from sub-Saharan Africa at all. After all, if we believe Geoffrey of
Monmouth there were resident Africans in Ireland and Cornwall. How
These were northern African Berbers mostly of Germanic stock. Even if
there was interracial mixing, they would have looked nothing like
sub-Saharan Africans. You can find blond Berbers even today.
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can you base one claim on a character from Geoffrey of Monmouth and
insist until you're blue in the face that there were no black people
in Britain when Monmouth insists there were plenty of "Africans"
already settled?
Gromund was of Germanic decent. What you fail to understand is that
northern Africa has been peopled by Europeans and Semites for over 4000
years. The black supremacist racist propaganda, as well as preconceived
racism that all Africans must be black, has got to your head.
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You should be asking the question, since when can a
dead life-form that was split into three pieces
teleport and then bring itself back to life?
No I shouldn't, for the simple reason that it doesn't
make any sense for it to have survived for 1,100 years
however many pieces it's cut into. If you can buy one
part of that, why not the other?
I'm not buying any of it. Which part of it contained its
brain? How did the others teleport without a brain? How
did they even communicate?
Space magic, of course. It's a millennium-old alien that
manages to reassemble itself through some sort of internal
teleporter - it's not intended to be over-analysed.
Why would it have three teleporters built into it? If there
was only one of them how did it locate the other parts. What
kept all the parts alive? Chibnall shat out absolute crap in
viewers faces. It's his job as a writer to explain what he
wrote, not cut it irrelevant mind numbing soap opera.
It's his job as a writer to tell a story, which may or may not
involve filling in all the details of the backstory.
Once again, why do Cylons sweat? It was even raised as a question
by a character in an episode and the series never answered it.
This is not a phenomenon restricted to Dr Who, but something seen
throughout TV, including actual sci-fi shows rather than kids'
fantasies with alien window-dressing like Dr Who.
Which Cylons are you talking about? The human ones?
Yes. It was never explained in the series why they looked human or
how they developed the technology to do so - it was only 'God's'
doing, i.e. space magic.
You must have missed series 3. They were shown as being organic clones
that were created in vats of fluid, possible with umbilical chords.
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Why can BSG get away with that but Dr Who can't?
The were organic. How much of the series did you watch?
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So you think it's ok for Chibnall to be homophobic then?
He isn't, but it's illuminating that you're swallowing outraged
Oh, but he is. He's racist against both black and white people,
sexist against both men and women, homophobic, heterophobic,
Both homophobic and heterophobic, eh? That's quite a feat - isn't it
easier to say he hates everyone except asexuals, or is he aphobic as
well?
He's a bigot so he's probably that too.
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and a stupid
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ignorant fool, because that is what political correctness always
turns you into.
You must be exceedingly politically correct, in that case.
No. I am a conservative traditionalist.
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of the leading roles, in Troy: Fall of a City.
Now you're getting the point. Your upset at people not casting Greek
actors is exactly why box-ticking exists: because other demographics
get similarly upset that they aren't being represented sufficiently.
It was the box ticking which meant that no Greek actors were cast in any
of the leading role. The box ticking racist to the core.
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That is what political correctness always results in;
institutionalized racism, sexism, chauvinism, and bigotry!
So now the gender pay gap is the fault of political correctness?
There is no gender pay gap and a gender pay gap would be illegal anyway.
Women have to be paid by law the same rate as men for doing the same
job, and they are. The fact is that women don't work in as highly
skilled jobs as men, or ones requiring physical strength and endurance
which pay more. They also take time off to have babies and retire
earlier so don't progress as far as men.

Think logically and stop falling for the chavansitic PC loony propaganda.
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They were all good. If they were not then 30 odd films would never
have been made.
Well, that gives me an easy argument. Dr Who season 11 must be good.
If it wasn't then 11 odd episodes would never have been made.
Unlike the Carry On films the BBC is paid for by the license fee so they
can make any old crap without it having to be good. They don't have to
finance the next series with the profits from the last, which might
explain the 2 year gap between series now, since Chibnall's racism and
sexism filled series has failed to sell internationally. It's already
flopped on BBC America.
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It doesn't treat women and black people realistically. It
thinks that ticks boxes solves the underlying problems, when it
fact it makes them worse,
What underlying problems? The perceived problem is that boxes
aren't being ticked - that's all 'diversity' means in
media-speak: not
The underlying problem is the black and ethnic writers are no given
the chance to write and produce shows for and about their own
communities. Instead you have racists like Chibnall inserting black
actors to play white characters in order to tick boxes which
doesn't solve the problem and is even more racist.
This isn't America, Aggy. British communities haven't traditionally
been seen as subdividing by race and the British ethos is one of
multiculturalism, not of self-segregated cultures living alongside
You don't even know the meaning of multiculturalism and neither does the
BBC. What they are producing isn't multicultural, its RACIST! Where are
the other cultures represented? They were no Greek actors in leading
roles in Troy: Fall of a City. The dialog was crass modern day working
class filth representing British culture, not sophisticated Greek poetry
representing Greek culture. The had an Italian family once in EastEnders
with Luise Jameson playing the mother. None of the spoke Italian or
represented Italian culture. The Greek characters didn't represent Greek
culture. The Turkish ones didn't represent Turkish culture. The black
ones don't represent Black culture. This isn't multiculturalism, it's
diminution of other cultures, and representing everyone as white
English, even when they're neither English nor white.
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one another (for all that that ethos may depart somewhat from
reality). We don't have a media culture or producing shows for black
communities or Asian communities - and our media wants shows
featuring those communities to be presented in a way that makes them
The British media is racist.
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accessible to everyone, so we get shows like Goodness Gracious Me
instead of The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air.
The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air is what the BBC should be doing. I never had
a problem watching it.
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That doesn't mean that the UK's media culture is where it should be
in terms of having black, female and Asian people direct, and you may
Oh here we go again. Let's have a woman write or direct an episode of
Doctor Who because she a woman, not because she's the best person for
the job. Let's have a woman play the Doctor because she's, not because
she's a good actor, and forget the fact that the character of the Doctor
is the of a man, just like the character of James Bond.
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well be right that there's some cultural blindness of the sort "if
they're in the shows as actors, they're represented. Job done". But
the solution does not lie in removing them from TV roles, and
certainly not in encouraging segregation in programming.
The solution likes in the BBC financing ethnic writers and producers
with good ideas, not ticking stupid boxes and rewriting history.
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enough people of a given demographic being portrayed in a
non-stereotyped role. So obviously box-ticking fixes the problem
by definition.
No it doesn't. The problem is as I described above and box ticking
part of it.
People want to see their demographic represented, just as you want to see Greek actors.
I've seen Greek actors on EastEnders, most were not playing Greeks. I've
seen them on Hustle, not playing Greeks. I've seen them on Doctor Who
too, not playing Greeks. The Basil Brush Show, not playing Greeks. So I
know they exist, and since they exist, and there are Greek actors in the
UK they should have been on Troy: Fall of a City, where there were
Greeks for once for them to play.
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The Carry Ons would have worked just as well if Sid James had
been black, for instance.
No they would not. The characters Sid James played did not
represent black people or ethnic minorities living in the UK. They
represented white working class Anglo-Saxons and that culture
alone; which was all perfectly fine since that was the main target
audience.
Sir Sidney Effing was working class?
He was played as a working class persons stereotype of someone who was
upper class.
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And if a South African Jew can represent 'Anglo-Saxon' Brits, why
can't a black actor? I don't imagine the working class experience is
particularly different for black Britons.
How would that have worked in Carry on Don't Lose Your Head?

Was the Scarlet Pimpernel black? Not when I last read Baroness Orczy's
description.
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The Dalek doesn't care if it's outnumbered. All it has to do is
fly to safety.
Daleks never seem to have got the hang of retreating.
You mean writers have never got the hang of writing military
science fiction properly.
Take it up with the writers of every Dalek and Cyberman story.
I took it up in my treatments for AGA Series 11.
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Do you know of any stores that
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sell space Dalek eye stalks?
Plenty of optical equipment and glassware around. If all else
failed it could always have raided the BBC studios for Dalek
props.
Oh really. Do you realize how long it takes to grind a lens? Why
would a Dalek even be expected to know how to grind one. Where did
it get the abrasives from needed to grind one to begin with? It's
takes hours to build a PC and longer to get the parts delivered.
How can a Dalek be repaired in less than a day?
It was repaired in less than a day - you saw that it was. If you can
swallow that you can swallow that it had the ability to repair any
battle damage from its previous encounter.
I'm not swallowing that though, nor the crap about diverting all of
Britain's power diverted to GCHQ. The fuses would have blown or power
lines would all melted, and that's before we even get to configuring the
dishes.
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Under Whittaker? I don't think she has any involvement in the script.
Tom Baker was involved in giving himself better lines in his
script. Whittaker doesn't even have the talent to do that.
I don't think any Doctor other than Baker has ever done that. And it
wouldn't have mattered if Hartnell had because he wouldn't have
remembered the lines anyway.
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What? There was nothing Doctor Who about it at all. Siri has
already shown that it was entirely conceived as a story about Ryan
getting back together with his dad and resolving (hence
Resolution)
Pretty sure that was a parody of your insistence that it's all soap
opera, not a serious review.
No. It seemed serious enough to me, and was completely accurate.
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Doctor Who plots were perfectly credible and well written
before the Colin Bakers second series, and even the
Sylvester McCoy era was far better written than anything
Chibnall has shat out in the past series.
I'll just leave this here.

There's a reason the new Who Honest Trailer ends with this
sequence...
And your point is what?
You'd really use the word 'credible' to describe that?
You were complaining about moths and talking frogs in one recent
episode, but talking spiders are fine?
The exposition in Planet of the Spiders explained the spiders,
their ability to talk, and justified why they were there. There was
no exposition concerning the need or requirement for a talking
frog.
Grace liked frog and we'd already established the universe could talk through avatars.
Nonsense. Since when has a universe ever been ably to talk to anyone let
along assume avatars. Where was the exposition to prove that was even
philosophically possible? It's was complete and utter bullshit, not
science fiction.
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Dr Who has done a lot better than 10.9 million since 2005. I
doubt anyone's seriously claiming this season has been one of the
more popular ones - simply on the figures that's wrong. It's only
doing better than the last couple of years - Moffatt's too-long
reign cost the series most of its viewership. It's still
averaging around 2 million more viewers than season 9, which was
itself a better performer than season 10.
Wrong. It was Moffats SJW PC lunatic agenda that cost Doctor Who 2
million viewers,
You don't think it's just because the episodes was crap and the companions tedious?
It was the SJW PC lunatic agenda. Clara was companion in Series 8 before
Moffat began his stupid agenda by turning the Master into a woman.
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Since they obviously had power and worked when the Dalek was
rebuilt as did the weapon, and the national grid wouldn't have
been able to recharge either of them--like how much power do
you need to anti-gravity these days?--they were obviously still
working back in the 9th century.
My point is that anything could have been repaired when the Dalek
is being rebuilt.
With what?
What was the rest of it repaired with? We only saw the gun and a bit
of armour before it repaired itself. And possibly the engines just
needed power.
Oh, so all a Dalek anti-gravity engine needs to power it is a
lithium-ion battery from the pound shop. Yer right.
Or just recharge the battery built into it on Skaro.

But I saw lights at its bottom, as if it were using rockets!
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Chibnall's writing is appalling. He doesn't have a clue how to write
scientific fiction and resorts to magic.
If the Dalek had the power to teleport then how was is ever captured in
the first place when it would have just teleported out.
Spacial rift, IIRC.
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Since they obviously had power and worked when the Dalek was
rebuilt as did the weapon, and the national grid wouldn't have
been able to recharge either of them--like how much power do
you need to anti-gravity these days?--they were obviously still
working back in the 9th century.
My point is that anything could have been repaired when the Dalek
is being rebuilt.
With what?
What was the rest of it repaired with? We only saw the gun and a bit
of armour before it repaired itself. And possibly the engines just
needed power.
Oh, so all a Dalek anti-gravity engine needs to power it is a
lithium-ion battery from the pound shop. Yer right.
Or just recharge the battery built into it on Skaro.
But I saw lights at its bottom, as if it were using rockets!
First time ever.
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Chibnall's writing is appalling. He doesn't have a clue how to write
scientific fiction and resorts to magic.
If the Dalek had the power to teleport then how was is ever captured in
the first place when it would have just teleported out.
Spacial rift, IIRC.
Might be correct.
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Since they obviously had power and worked when the Dalek was
rebuilt as did the weapon, and the national grid wouldn't have
been able to recharge either of them--like how much power do
you need to anti-gravity these days?--they were obviously still
working back in the 9th century.
My point is that anything could have been repaired when the Dalek
is being rebuilt.
With what?
What was the rest of it repaired with? We only saw the gun and a bit
of armour before it repaired itself. And possibly the engines just
needed power.
Oh, so all a Dalek anti-gravity engine needs to power it is a
lithium-ion battery from the pound shop. Yer right.
Or just recharge the battery built into it on Skaro.
With what? I don't think female archaeologist's iPhone charger
lightening cable would have been compatible, let along powerful enough.
It would have taken millennia to charge the Dalek with it.
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But I saw lights at its bottom, as if it were using rockets!
Where did it get rocket fuel from?
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Chibnall's writing is appalling. He doesn't have a clue how to write
scientific fiction and resorts to magic.
If the Dalek had the power to teleport then how was is ever captured in
the first place when it would have just teleported out.
Spacial rift, IIRC.
What spacial rift?
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Since they obviously had power and worked when the Dalek was
rebuilt as did the weapon, and the national grid wouldn't have
been able to recharge either of them--like how much power do
you need to anti-gravity these days?--they were obviously still
working back in the 9th century.
My point is that anything could have been repaired when the Dalek
is being rebuilt.
With what?
What was the rest of it repaired with? We only saw the gun and a bit
of armour before it repaired itself. And possibly the engines just
needed power.
Oh, so all a Dalek anti-gravity engine needs to power it is a
lithium-ion battery from the pound shop. Yer right.
Or just recharge the battery built into it on Skaro.
With what? I don't think female archaeologist's iPhone charger
lightening cable would have been compatible, let along powerful enough.
It would have taken millennia to charge the Dalek with it.
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But I saw lights at its bottom, as if it were using rockets!
Where did it get rocket fuel from?
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Chibnall's writing is appalling. He doesn't have a clue how to write
scientific fiction and resorts to magic.
If the Dalek had the power to teleport then how was is ever captured in
the first place when it would have just teleported out.
Spacial rift, IIRC.
What spacial rift?
how are we going to teach the alphabet to tim
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Since they obviously had power and worked when the Dalek was
rebuilt as did the weapon, and the national grid wouldn't have
been able to recharge either of them--like how much power do
you need to anti-gravity these days?--they were obviously still
working back in the 9th century.
My point is that anything could have been repaired when the Dalek
is being rebuilt.
With what?
What was the rest of it repaired with? We only saw the gun and a bit
of armour before it repaired itself. And possibly the engines just
needed power.
Oh, so all a Dalek anti-gravity engine needs to power it is a
lithium-ion battery from the pound shop. Yer right.
Or just recharge the battery built into it on Skaro.
With what? I don't think female archaeologist's iPhone charger
lightening cable would have been compatible, let along powerful enough.
It would have taken millennia to charge the Dalek with it.
Steal heavy duty cable at MDZ.
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But I saw lights at its bottom, as if it were using rockets!
Where did it get rocket fuel from?
MDZ? A rocket fuel station?
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Chibnall's writing is appalling. He doesn't have a clue how to write
scientific fiction and resorts to magic.
If the Dalek had the power to teleport then how was is ever captured in
the first place when it would have just teleported out.
Spacial rift, IIRC.
What spacial rift?
I thought I heard the Doctor talk of detecting a spacial rift or spacial something as the Dalek reassembled itself.
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Since they obviously had power and worked when the Dalek was
rebuilt as did the weapon, and the national grid wouldn't have
been able to recharge either of them--like how much power do
you need to anti-gravity these days?--they were obviously still
working back in the 9th century.
My point is that anything could have been repaired when the Dalek
is being rebuilt.
With what?
What was the rest of it repaired with? We only saw the gun and a bit
of armour before it repaired itself. And possibly the engines just
needed power.
Oh, so all a Dalek anti-gravity engine needs to power it is a
lithium-ion battery from the pound shop. Yer right.
Or just recharge the battery built into it on Skaro.
With what? I don't think female archaeologist's iPhone charger
lightening cable would have been compatible, let along powerful enough.
It would have taken millennia to charge the Dalek with it.
Steal heavy duty cable at MDZ.
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But I saw lights at its bottom, as if it were using rockets!
Where did it get rocket fuel from?
MDZ? A rocket fuel station?
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Chibnall's writing is appalling. He doesn't have a clue how to write
scientific fiction and resorts to magic.
If the Dalek had the power to teleport then how was is ever captured in
the first place when it would have just teleported out.
Spacial rift, IIRC.
What spacial rift?
I thought I heard the Doctor talk of detecting a spacial rift or spacial
something as the Dalek reassembled itself.
Might not want to check.
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You call that steaming pile a garbage a storyline?
Whatever you think of its quality it was undeniably a storyline. Dalek gets
chopped up, chopped up Dalek gets excavated and reawoken, reassembled Dalek
tries to communicate to its fleet. Doctor and co. work out what it's up to
and stop it.
There, storyline.
That's not the storyline. The storyline is Graham and Ryan arrive at the right
time and place to meet Ryan's Dad. It looks like Dad is going to be a lovable
conman selling microwaves that fell off a lorry who can insinuate himself into
Ryan's life. He's caught offguard that Ryan accepts the step-grandfather over
himself, and then given a quick dress down from his stepfather.

Off to tea and chat between Ryan and Dad where Dad reveals he knows he screwed
up and was too embarassed to come back.

Back to Graham's where the monster isolates Graham and Dad. Graham rather than
attacking Dad teaches him what a parent is supposed to be. He helps his stepson
deal with some of his problems.

Along the way Dad is revealed to be smart and an actual engineer.

The monster brings Ryan and Dad back together and puts Ryan in situation where
the emotional struggles are made physical. Ryan can reasonably abandon Dad
instead struggles to reach out to him. Dad can reasonable let go instead
struggles to reach his son. Physically and emotionally they connect.

In the end Dad and Ryan know they have begun to heal and their emotional
connection will endure temporary physical separations.

Custodians are introduced to possibly bad wolf the next series.

Oh, and something about a dalek getting smacked down by the Doctor again.
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You call that steaming pile a garbage a storyline?
Whatever you think of its quality it was undeniably a storyline. Dalek gets
chopped up, chopped up Dalek gets excavated and reawoken, reassembled Dalek
tries to communicate to its fleet. Doctor and co. work out what it's up to
and stop it.
There, storyline.
That's not the storyline. The storyline is Graham and Ryan arrive at the right
time and place to meet Ryan's Dad. It looks like Dad is going to be a lovable
conman selling microwaves that fell off a lorry who can insinuate himself into
Ryan's life. He's caught offguard that Ryan accepts the step-grandfather over
himself, and then given a quick dress down from his stepfather.
Off to tea and chat between Ryan and Dad where Dad reveals he knows he screwed
up and was too embarassed to come back.
Back to Graham's where the monster isolates Graham and Dad. Graham rather than
attacking Dad teaches him what a parent is supposed to be. He helps his stepson
deal with some of his problems.
Along the way Dad is revealed to be smart and an actual engineer.
The monster brings Ryan and Dad back together and puts Ryan in situation where
the emotional struggles are made physical. Ryan can reasonably abandon Dad
instead struggles to reach out to him. Dad can reasonable let go instead
struggles to reach his son. Physically and emotionally they connect.
In the end Dad and Ryan know they have begun to heal and their emotional
connection will endure temporary physical separations.
PUKE!!!! PUKEEEEE!!!! WRETCHHHHHH!!!! PUKKKKKKKEEEE!!! WERCHHHHHHHHH!!!!
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Custodians are introduced to possibly bad wolf the next series.
Oh, and something about a dalek getting smacked down by the Doctor again.
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PUKE!!!! PUKEEEEE!!!! WRETCHHHHHH!!!! PUKKKKKKKEEEE!!! WERCHHHHHHHHH!!!!
What a great description of what your constant childish posts make sane
people do......

Quick binky, come lap up Aggy's lastest missive, mmmmmmmmmm tasty isn't
it. Oh and don't forget to kiss his ass.
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You call that steaming pile a garbage a storyline?
Whatever you think of its quality it was undeniably a storyline. Dalek gets
chopped up, chopped up Dalek gets excavated and reawoken, reassembled Dalek
tries to communicate to its fleet. Doctor and co. work out what it's up to
and stop it.
There, storyline.
That's not the storyline. The storyline is Graham and Ryan arrive at the right
time and place to meet Ryan's Dad. It looks like Dad is going to be a lovable
conman selling microwaves that fell off a lorry who can insinuate himself into
Ryan's life. He's caught offguard that Ryan accepts the step-grandfather over
himself, and then given a quick dress down from his stepfather.
Off to tea and chat between Ryan and Dad where Dad reveals he knows he screwed
up and was too embarassed to come back.
Back to Graham's where the monster isolates Graham and Dad. Graham rather than
attacking Dad teaches him what a parent is supposed to be. He helps
his stepson
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deal with some of his problems.
Along the way Dad is revealed to be smart and an actual engineer.
The monster brings Ryan and Dad back together and puts Ryan in situation where
the emotional struggles are made physical. Ryan can reasonably abandon Dad
instead struggles to reach out to him. Dad can reasonable let go instead
struggles to reach his son. Physically and emotionally they connect.
In the end Dad and Ryan know they have begun to heal and their emotional
connection will endure temporary physical separations.
PUKE!!!! PUKEEEEE!!!! WRETCHHHHHH!!!! PUKKKKKKKEEEE!!! WERCHHHHHHHHH!!!!
10/10! Watch Rhodes, Wilson and Idlehands come to the defence.
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Custodians are introduced to possibly bad wolf the next series.
Oh, and something about a dalek getting smacked down by the Doctor again.
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You call that steaming pile a garbage a storyline?
Whatever you think of its quality it was undeniably a storyline. Dalek gets
chopped up, chopped up Dalek gets excavated and reawoken, reassembled Dalek
tries to communicate to its fleet. Doctor and co. work out what it's up to
and stop it.
There, storyline.
That's not the storyline. The storyline is Graham and Ryan arrive at the right
time and place to meet Ryan's Dad. It looks like Dad is going to be a lovable
conman selling microwaves that fell off a lorry who can insinuate himself into
Ryan's life. He's caught offguard that Ryan accepts the step-grandfather over
himself, and then given a quick dress down from his stepfather.
Off to tea and chat between Ryan and Dad where Dad reveals he knows he screwed
up and was too embarassed to come back.
Back to Graham's where the monster isolates Graham and Dad. Graham rather than
attacking Dad teaches him what a parent is supposed to be. He helps his stepson
deal with some of his problems.
Along the way Dad is revealed to be smart and an actual engineer.
The monster brings Ryan and Dad back together and puts Ryan in situation where
the emotional struggles are made physical. Ryan can reasonably abandon Dad
instead struggles to reach out to him. Dad can reasonable let go instead
struggles to reach his son. Physically and emotionally they connect.
In the end Dad and Ryan know they have begun to heal and their emotional
connection will endure temporary physical separations.
Custodians are introduced to possibly bad wolf the next series.
Oh, and something about a dalek getting smacked down by the Doctor again.
You managed to get a surprising amount out of what was written as "Ryan's Dad shows up, says he wants a reconciliation, Ryan and Graham says no. Dalek emergency is used as a predictable vehicle for the dad to redeem himself somewhat, and everyone lives happily ever after because this sideplot is shoehorned clumsily into the Dalek narrative and there's no time to have any kind of plausible development towards reconciliation".
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2019-01-04 03:00:45 UTC
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You call that steaming pile a garbage a storyline?
Whatever you think of its quality it was undeniably a storyline. Dalek gets
chopped up, chopped up Dalek gets excavated and reawoken, reassembled Dalek
tries to communicate to its fleet. Doctor and co. work out what it's up to
and stop it.
There, storyline.
That's not the storyline. The storyline is Graham and Ryan arrive at the right
time and place to meet Ryan's Dad. It looks like Dad is going to be a lovable
conman selling microwaves that fell off a lorry who can insinuate himself into
Ryan's life. He's caught offguard that Ryan accepts the step-grandfather over
himself, and then given a quick dress down from his stepfather.
Off to tea and chat between Ryan and Dad where Dad reveals he knows he screwed
up and was too embarassed to come back.
Back to Graham's where the monster isolates Graham and Dad. Graham rather than
attacking Dad teaches him what a parent is supposed to be. He helps his stepson
deal with some of his problems.
Along the way Dad is revealed to be smart and an actual engineer.
The monster brings Ryan and Dad back together and puts Ryan in situation where
the emotional struggles are made physical. Ryan can reasonably abandon Dad
instead struggles to reach out to him. Dad can reasonable let go instead
struggles to reach his son. Physically and emotionally they connect.
In the end Dad and Ryan know they have begun to heal and their emotional
connection will endure temporary physical separations.
Custodians are introduced to possibly bad wolf the next series.
Oh, and something about a dalek getting smacked down by the Doctor again.
You managed to get a surprising amount out of what was written as "Ryan's Dad
shows up, says he wants a reconciliation, Ryan and Graham says no. Dalek
emergency is used as a predictable vehicle for the dad to redeem himself
somewhat, and everyone lives happily ever after because this sideplot is
shoehorned clumsily into the Dalek narrative and there's no time to have any
kind of plausible development towards reconciliation".
It's all in the title: Resolution. Resolving the conflict in Ryan's family.

It like the Demons of the Punjab. The demons weren't the space aliens, they were
the humans. The aliens were side story. The real story is how poorly humans can
treat humans.
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The Doctor
2019-01-04 16:19:27 UTC
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You call that steaming pile a garbage a storyline?
Whatever you think of its quality it was undeniably a storyline. Dalek gets
chopped up, chopped up Dalek gets excavated and reawoken, reassembled Dalek
tries to communicate to its fleet. Doctor and co. work out what it's up to
and stop it.
There, storyline.
That's not the storyline. The storyline is Graham and Ryan arrive at the right
time and place to meet Ryan's Dad. It looks like Dad is going to be a lovable
conman selling microwaves that fell off a lorry who can insinuate himself into
Ryan's life. He's caught offguard that Ryan accepts the step-grandfather over
himself, and then given a quick dress down from his stepfather.
Off to tea and chat between Ryan and Dad where Dad reveals he knows he screwed
up and was too embarassed to come back.
Back to Graham's where the monster isolates Graham and Dad. Graham rather than
attacking Dad teaches him what a parent is supposed to be. He helps his stepson
deal with some of his problems.
Along the way Dad is revealed to be smart and an actual engineer.
The monster brings Ryan and Dad back together and puts Ryan in situation where
the emotional struggles are made physical. Ryan can reasonably abandon Dad
instead struggles to reach out to him. Dad can reasonable let go instead
struggles to reach his son. Physically and emotionally they connect.
In the end Dad and Ryan know they have begun to heal and their emotional
connection will endure temporary physical separations.
Custodians are introduced to possibly bad wolf the next series.
Oh, and something about a dalek getting smacked down by the Doctor again.
You managed to get a surprising amount out of what was written as "Ryan's Dad
shows up, says he wants a reconciliation, Ryan and Graham says no. Dalek
emergency is used as a predictable vehicle for the dad to redeem himself
somewhat, and everyone lives happily ever after because this sideplot is
shoehorned clumsily into the Dalek narrative and there's no time to have any
kind of plausible development towards reconciliation".
It's all in the title: Resolution. Resolving the conflict in Ryan's family.
And the Resolve to get rid of a Dalek invasion.
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It like the Demons of the Punjab. The demons weren't the space aliens, they were
the humans. The aliens were side story. The real story is how poorly humans can
treat humans.
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The Doctor
2019-01-04 16:18:57 UTC
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You call that steaming pile a garbage a storyline?
Whatever you think of its quality it was undeniably a storyline. Dalek gets
chopped up, chopped up Dalek gets excavated and reawoken, reassembled Dalek
tries to communicate to its fleet. Doctor and co. work out what it's up to
and stop it.
There, storyline.
That's not the storyline. The storyline is Graham and Ryan arrive at
the right
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time and place to meet Ryan's Dad. It looks like Dad is going to be a lovable
conman selling microwaves that fell off a lorry who can insinuate
himself into
Post by Siri Cruise
Ryan's life. He's caught offguard that Ryan accepts the step-grandfather over
himself, and then given a quick dress down from his stepfather.
Off to tea and chat between Ryan and Dad where Dad reveals he knows he
screwed
Post by Siri Cruise
up and was too embarassed to come back.
Back to Graham's where the monster isolates Graham and Dad. Graham
rather than
Post by Siri Cruise
attacking Dad teaches him what a parent is supposed to be. He helps
his stepson
Post by Siri Cruise
deal with some of his problems.
Along the way Dad is revealed to be smart and an actual engineer.
The monster brings Ryan and Dad back together and puts Ryan in
situation where
Post by Siri Cruise
the emotional struggles are made physical. Ryan can reasonably abandon Dad
instead struggles to reach out to him. Dad can reasonable let go instead
struggles to reach his son. Physically and emotionally they connect.
In the end Dad and Ryan know they have begun to heal and their emotional
connection will endure temporary physical separations.
Custodians are introduced to possibly bad wolf the next series.
Oh, and something about a dalek getting smacked down by the Doctor again.
You managed to get a surprising amount out of what was written as
"Ryan's Dad shows up, says he wants a reconciliation, Ryan and Graham
says no. Dalek emergency is used as a predictable vehicle for the dad to
redeem himself somewhat, and everyone lives happily ever after because
this sideplot is shoehorned clumsily into the Dalek narrative and
there's no time to have any kind of plausible development towards
reconciliation".
Talk about rushed.
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2019-01-04 06:27:10 UTC
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Custodians are introduced to possibly bad wolf the next series.
With Dalek gone, the Order of the Custodians is no longer needed, so can now disband.
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2019-01-04 16:34:04 UTC
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Custodians are introduced to possibly bad wolf the next series.
With Dalek gone, the Order of the Custodians is no longer needed, so can now disband.
The ORder did die when the archeologists interfered.
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2019-01-04 16:06:57 UTC
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You call that steaming pile a garbage a storyline?
Whatever you think of its quality it was undeniably a storyline. Dalek gets
chopped up, chopped up Dalek gets excavated and reawoken, reassembled Dalek
tries to communicate to its fleet. Doctor and co. work out what it's up to
and stop it.
There, storyline.
That's not the storyline. The storyline is Graham and Ryan arrive at the right
time and place to meet Ryan's Dad. It looks like Dad is going to be a lovable
conman selling microwaves that fell off a lorry who can insinuate himself into
Ryan's life. He's caught offguard that Ryan accepts the step-grandfather over
himself, and then given a quick dress down from his stepfather.
Off to tea and chat between Ryan and Dad where Dad reveals he knows he screwed
up and was too embarassed to come back.
Back to Graham's where the monster isolates Graham and Dad. Graham rather than
attacking Dad teaches him what a parent is supposed to be. He helps his stepson
deal with some of his problems.
Along the way Dad is revealed to be smart and an actual engineer.
The monster brings Ryan and Dad back together and puts Ryan in situation where
the emotional struggles are made physical. Ryan can reasonably abandon Dad
instead struggles to reach out to him. Dad can reasonable let go instead
struggles to reach his son. Physically and emotionally they connect.
In the end Dad and Ryan know they have begun to heal and their emotional
connection will endure temporary physical separations.
Custodians are introduced to possibly bad wolf the next series.
Oh, and something about a dalek getting smacked down by the Doctor again.
Very weak!
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2019-01-04 18:40:22 UTC
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You call that steaming pile a garbage a storyline?
Whatever you think of its quality it was undeniably a storyline. Dalek gets
chopped up, chopped up Dalek gets excavated and reawoken, reassembled Dalek
tries to communicate to its fleet. Doctor and co. work out what it's up to
and stop it.
There, storyline.
That's not the storyline. The storyline is Graham and Ryan arrive at the right
time and place to meet Ryan's Dad. It looks like Dad is going to be a lovable
conman selling microwaves that fell off a lorry who can insinuate himself into
Ryan's life. He's caught offguard that Ryan accepts the step-grandfather over
himself, and then given a quick dress down from his stepfather.
Off to tea and chat between Ryan and Dad where Dad reveals he knows he screwed
up and was too embarassed to come back.
Back to Graham's where the monster isolates Graham and Dad. Graham rather than
attacking Dad teaches him what a parent is supposed to be. He helps his stepson
deal with some of his problems.
Along the way Dad is revealed to be smart and an actual engineer.
The monster brings Ryan and Dad back together and puts Ryan in situation where
the emotional struggles are made physical. Ryan can reasonably abandon Dad
instead struggles to reach out to him. Dad can reasonable let go instead
struggles to reach his son. Physically and emotionally they connect.
In the end Dad and Ryan know they have begun to heal and their emotional
connection will endure temporary physical separations.
Custodians are introduced to possibly bad wolf the next series.
Oh, and something about a dalek getting smacked down by the Doctor again.
Very weak!
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one phone call (like a soccer game, ha ha...gotta play, and score)(opposing team wants to lose, has been hired to boost dwindling team's morale. :-) )

the long walk home........dum dum dee dum, dum, dee dum, dee dum, dee dum.

better than the bataan death march. :-((((

but he can't do it. :-((((

YOU CAN'T DO IT, BOB DYLAN.

NO ONE WILL EVER RESPECT YOU AGAIN!!!!!!
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2019-01-03 07:11:03 UTC
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Unfortunately for us, the woman entrusted with taking the 1/3 portion of
Dalek meat to Sheffield is shot dead before she can bury it like the
others.
Why would anyone in their right mind trust such a task to a feeble woman
in the first place? Why didn't they just let thing burn on the Pyre?
Misogyny is the best you've got, Aggy? More relevantly, why did they trust any of these to single individuals rather than groups - and why carry the pieces away that far in any case? It's not as though anyone was going to be using UV lights to bring them together in the 9th Century, and if it was chopped up it would otherwise make no difference if the bits were 2,000 miles from each other or 2.
9th century Europe male dominated, so why would a woman be entrusted with the important task of disposing of a Dalek-fragment?
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2019-01-03 12:55:50 UTC
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Unfortunately for us, the woman entrusted with taking the 1/3 portion of
Dalek meat to Sheffield is shot dead before she can bury it like the
others.
Why would anyone in their right mind trust such a task to a feeble woman
in the first place? Why didn't they just let thing burn on the Pyre?
Misogyny is the best you've got, Aggy? More relevantly, why did they
trust any of these to single individuals rather than groups - and why
carry the pieces away that far in any case? It's not as though anyone
was going to be using UV lights to bring them together in the 9th
Century, and if it was chopped up it would otherwise make no difference
if the bits were 2,000 miles from each other or 2.
9th century Europe male dominated, so why would a woman be entrusted
with the important task of disposing of a Dalek-fragment?
Good point.
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2019-01-03 07:18:39 UTC
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Communist party boss: Why are you sitting in the snow with primitive weapons way out here in Siberia?

Siberia Custodian: I am guarding a piece of monster that slaughtered thousands over in England before it was destroyed 1100 years ago. I sit here in case it comes back to life.

CPB: Lets dig it up and take it back to Moscow for study!
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2019-01-03 12:56:06 UTC
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Communist party boss: Why are you sitting in the snow with primitive
weapons way out here in Siberia?
Siberia Custodian: I am guarding a piece of monster that slaughtered
thousands over in England before it was destroyed 1100 years ago. I sit
here in case it comes back to life.
CPB: Lets dig it up and take it back to Moscow for study!
no.
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2019-01-04 01:33:01 UTC
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to defeat a Dalek by melting its casing
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after placing or trapping it on a wooden pyre. How a wooden pyre can
I really dislike making it a dalek. Outside their machines, they're weak,
squishy, and easily killed. They can't survive dismemberment, teleport, or
puppeteer. I don't see what purpose there was in making it a dalek except to
avoid exposition, but they had to do exposition anyway because it was so
undaleklike. Better to call it a Mighty Morphin Squid trying to call in its
squid herd with the same exposition.

I got the Resolution was the resolution between Ryan and his dad, with monster
as a background event to move the story forward. Another reason not to use a
flashy enemy like a dalek.

It was obviously with Lin when the Doctor failed to scan her.
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2019-01-04 15:52:53 UTC
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after placing or trapping it on a wooden pyre. How a wooden pyre can
I really dislike making it a dalek. Outside their machines, they're weak,
squishy, and easily killed. They can't survive dismemberment, teleport, or
puppeteer. I don't see what purpose there was in making it a dalek except to
avoid exposition, but they had to do exposition anyway because it was so
undaleklike. Better to call it a Mighty Morphin Squid trying to call in its
squid herd with the same exposition.
I got the Resolution was the resolution between Ryan and his dad, with monster
as a background event to move the story forward. Another reason not to use a
flashy enemy like a dalek.
It was obviously with Lin when the Doctor failed to scan her.
Lin?
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Doctor Who would be better if it were cancelled entirely, than fans
having to suffer this shit being inflicted on them again.
The damage Chibnall and Whittaker have done is irreparable.
Speaking of which, Aggy, how is your re-boot of Doctor Who coming along??
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Doctor Who would be better if it were cancelled entirely, than fans
having to suffer this shit being inflicted on them again.
The damage Chibnall and Whittaker have done is irreparable.
Speaking of which, Aggy, how is your re-boot of Doctor Who coming along??
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Unfortunately for us, the woman entrusted with taking the 1/3 portion of
Dalek meat to Sheffield is shot dead before she can bury it like the
others.
I just discovered that the Custodian shot in Sheffield was a MAN!

From the tardis.wiki article on Resolution: Plot
In the 9th century, a creature attacks the Earth. Three tribes of people come together to destroy it. After many deaths, they succeed and cut it into three pieces. The Three Custodians transport them to three distinct places around the world: Anuta Island, Siberia and Yorkshire. The third Custodian in England attempts to take his piece to Yorkshire but is killed en route by thieves, shot from his horse while in Sheffield. The man's final fragment remains unguarded for over 1000 years.
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I just discovered that the Custodian shot in Sheffield was a MAN!
Yes, but Aggy has trouble telling the difference between sexes, He
even gets confused between hermaphrodites and natural born eunuchs!
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2019-01-04 10:52:39 UTC
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I just discovered that the Custodian shot in Sheffield was a MAN!
Yes, but Aggy has trouble telling the difference between sexes, He
even gets confused between hermaphrodites and natural born eunuchs!
I shot the Custodian
but I did not shoot the copwoman
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2019-01-04 16:40:18 UTC
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I just discovered that the Custodian shot in Sheffield was a MAN!
Yes, but Aggy has trouble telling the difference between sexes, He
even gets confused between hermaphrodites and natural born eunuchs!
I shot the Custodian
but I did not shoot the copwoman
Sing it!!
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2019-01-04 11:23:08 UTC
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I just discovered that the Custodian shot in Sheffield was a MAN!
Yes, but Aggy has trouble telling the difference between sexes, He
even gets confused between hermaphrodites and natural born eunuchs!
I don't recall anyone in radw disputing Aggy's statement that the Sheffield Custodian was a woman!
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2019-01-04 12:19:00 UTC
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I just discovered that the Custodian shot in Sheffield was a MAN!
Yes, but Aggy has trouble telling the difference between sexes, He
even gets confused between hermaphrodites and natural born eunuchs!
I don't recall anyone in radw disputing Aggy's statement that the Sheffield Custodian was a woman!
I don't know about anyone else, but I wasn't paying sufficient attention to the sexes of minor extras in the episode.

After his confusion about the psychic boy in a previous episode evidently I should have checked.
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2019-01-04 12:42:28 UTC
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I just discovered that the Custodian shot in Sheffield was a MAN!
Yes, but Aggy has trouble telling the difference between sexes, He
even gets confused between hermaphrodites and natural born eunuchs!
I don't recall anyone in radw disputing Aggy's statement that the Sheffield Custodian was a woman!
I don't know about anyone else, but I wasn't paying sufficient attention to the sexes of minor extras in the episode.
After his confusion about the psychic boy in a previous episode evidently I should have checked.
Aggy's misapprehension about the gender of the Sheffield Custodian was crucial to the plot of his post. He wondered what kind of idiot would send a WOMAN (women generally being less suited to low tech warfare than men) on such a crucial mission. He used the sending of a woman on the crucial mission of disposing of a very scary enemy, in an era very dominated by men, as an example of Chibnall's extreme incompetence as a writer!
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2019-01-04 16:42:23 UTC
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I just discovered that the Custodian shot in Sheffield was a MAN!
Yes, but Aggy has trouble telling the difference between sexes, He
even gets confused between hermaphrodites and natural born eunuchs!
I don't recall anyone in radw disputing Aggy's statement that the
Sheffield Custodian was a woman!
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I don't know about anyone else, but I wasn't paying sufficient
attention to the sexes of minor extras in the episode.
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After his confusion about the psychic boy in a previous episode
evidently I should have checked.
Aggy's misapprehension about the gender of the Sheffield Custodian was
crucial to the plot of his post. He wondered what kind of idiot would
send a WOMAN (women generally being less suited to low tech warfare than
men) on such a crucial mission. He used the sending of a woman on the
crucial mission of disposing of a very scary enemy, in an era very
dominated by men, as an example of Chibnall's extreme incompetence as a
writer!
Chibnall may have really fouled up this time.
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2019-01-04 16:40:39 UTC
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I just discovered that the Custodian shot in Sheffield was a MAN!
Yes, but Aggy has trouble telling the difference between sexes, He
even gets confused between hermaphrodites and natural born eunuchs!
I don't recall anyone in radw disputing Aggy's statement that the
Sheffield Custodian was a woman!
Same here.
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I just discovered that the Custodian shot in Sheffield was a MAN!
Yes, but Aggy has trouble telling the difference between sexes, He
even gets confused between hermaphrodites and natural born eunuchs!
Ha! Ha!!
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2019-01-04 16:36:47 UTC
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Unfortunately for us, the woman entrusted with taking the 1/3 portion of
Dalek meat to Sheffield is shot dead before she can bury it like the
others.
I just discovered that the Custodian shot in Sheffield was a MAN!
From the tardis.wiki article on Resolution: Plot
In the 9th century, a creature attacks the Earth. Three tribes of people
come together to destroy it. After many deaths, they succeed and cut it
into three pieces. The Three Custodians transport them to three distinct
places around the world: Anuta Island, Siberia and Yorkshire. The third
Custodian in England attempts to take his piece to Yorkshire but is
killed en route by thieves, shot from his horse while in Sheffield. The
man's final fragment remains unguarded for over 1000 years.
Apology noted.
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