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A Christmas Carol (review)
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Agamemnon
2010-12-25 21:06:03 UTC
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A spaceship is about the crash into an alien planet and the Doctor has to
save all the people on board, with just his sonic screwdriver. Like, he
can't just bundle them all into the TARDIS and transfer them onto the
planet's surface in the hour he has to do it, and even that isn't enough
time, it's not like he couldn't make a dozen or more trips back in time to
take in more people, and nobody is particularly bothered about collateral
damage on the planet's surface either.

The bridge and command crew of the ship were a deliberate parody of Star
Trek with an obvious Geordie La Forge joke at the beginning.

The kid who played young Kazran put in a very good performance. There wasn't
much of Amy or Rory in this episode and Matt Smith went over the top with
his Jack Sparrow routine at the start but soon calmed down and put in a good
performance. The performances by Michael Gambon and Katherine Jenkins were
also good.

The special effects and sets down on the planet were mostly ok but the
bridge of the spaceship didn't look very convincing, but at least it looked
more credible than the Titanic bridge in Voyage of the Damned. Obviously as
I said in earlier reviews Stephen Moffat is following exactly the same list
stroy outlines that RTD was following when he produced the series, a
spaceship is about the crash into an alien planet and the Doctor has to save
all the people on board, but Stephen Moffat does it much better.

After all the prancing around at the start it's actually a very good story.
Pity about the sad ending.

10/10
The Face of Po
2010-12-25 22:06:31 UTC
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Like, he
can't just bundle them all into the TARDIS and transfer them onto the
planet's surface in the hour he has to do it [...]
Correct. He couldn't land the TARDIS on it in the first place.
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spaceship is about the crash into an alien planet and the Doctor has to save
all the people on board, but Stephen Moffat does it much better.
One of the important differences for me was that this one didn't need to
raise the stakes by endangering the entire planet. If the ship had
crashed, then the four thousand people on board, of whom we only see
two characters plus a handful of nameless crew members, would have met
their premature deaths - and that's enough of a reason for the audience
to keep watching.
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2015-11-30 17:40:35 UTC
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On 25 Dec 2010, Agamemnon brought the following to the attention of
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Like, he
can't just bundle them all into the TARDIS and transfer them onto the
planet's surface in the hour he has to do it [...]
Correct. He couldn't land the TARDIS on it in the first place.
Why can't the Doctor just tow the spaceship to safety?
The Doctor
2015-11-30 22:32:16 UTC
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On 25 Dec 2010, Agamemnon brought the following to the attention of
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Like, he
can't just bundle them all into the TARDIS and transfer them onto the
planet's surface in the hour he has to do it [...]
Correct. He couldn't land the TARDIS on it in the first place.
Why can't the Doctor just tow the spaceship to safety?
Too close to the gravitational field.
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Tim Bruening
2017-10-03 23:12:39 UTC
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On 25 Dec 2010, Agamemnon brought the following to the attention of
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Like, he
can't just bundle them all into the TARDIS and transfer them onto the
planet's surface in the hour he has to do it [...]
Correct. He couldn't land the TARDIS on it in the first place.
Why can't the Doctor just tow the spaceship to safety?
Too close to the gravitational field.
But the TARDIS once towed a spaceship out of a black hole!
The Doctor
2017-10-04 00:43:45 UTC
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On 25 Dec 2010, Agamemnon brought the following to the attention of
Post by Agamemnon
Like, he
can't just bundle them all into the TARDIS and transfer them onto the
planet's surface in the hour he has to do it [...]
Correct. He couldn't land the TARDIS on it in the first place.
Why can't the Doctor just tow the spaceship to safety?
Too close to the gravitational field.
But the TARDIS once towed a spaceship out of a black hole!
Depending on the turbulence
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Tim Bruening
2017-10-04 02:44:10 UTC
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On 25 Dec 2010, Agamemnon brought the following to the attention of
Post by Agamemnon
Like, he
can't just bundle them all into the TARDIS and transfer them onto the
planet's surface in the hour he has to do it [...]
Correct. He couldn't land the TARDIS on it in the first place.
Why can't the Doctor just tow the spaceship to safety?
Too close to the gravitational field.
But the TARDIS once towed a spaceship out of a black hole!
Depending on the turbulence
What's a little turbulence to a craft that can tow a spaceship out of a black hole, or tow Earth home from the Medusa Cascade?

The TARDIS was able to land on the planet, so it could handle the atmosphere to that extent.
The Doctor
2017-10-04 03:01:37 UTC
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On 25 Dec 2010, Agamemnon brought the following to the attention of
Post by Agamemnon
Like, he
can't just bundle them all into the TARDIS and transfer them onto the
planet's surface in the hour he has to do it [...]
Correct. He couldn't land the TARDIS on it in the first place.
Why can't the Doctor just tow the spaceship to safety?
Too close to the gravitational field.
But the TARDIS once towed a spaceship out of a black hole!
Depending on the turbulence
What's a little turbulence to a craft that can tow a spaceship out of a
black hole, or tow Earth home from the Medusa Cascade?
The TARDIS was able to land on the planet, so it could handle the atmosphere to that extent.
Are you certain?
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Tim Bruening
2017-10-04 07:09:23 UTC
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On 25 Dec 2010, Agamemnon brought the following to the attention of
Post by Agamemnon
Like, he
can't just bundle them all into the TARDIS and transfer them onto the
planet's surface in the hour he has to do it [...]
Correct. He couldn't land the TARDIS on it in the first place.
Why can't the Doctor just tow the spaceship to safety?
Too close to the gravitational field.
But the TARDIS once towed a spaceship out of a black hole!
Depending on the turbulence
What's a little turbulence to a craft that can tow a spaceship out of a
black hole, or tow Earth home from the Medusa Cascade?
The TARDIS was able to land on the planet, so it could handle the
atmosphere to that extent.
Are you certain?
I saw a lot of the TARDIS, both on the ground and even in the air (to repatriate the shark). The Doctor used it a lot to transport young Kazran and his GF about the universe! He seemed to have no trouble flying the TARDIS to and from Kazran's home planet! Therefore, it should have been able to give that starship a tow!
Timothy Bruening
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On 25 Dec 2010, Agamemnon brought the following to the attention of
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Like, he
can't just bundle them all into the TARDIS and transfer them onto the
planet's surface in the hour he has to do it [...]
Correct. He couldn't land the TARDIS on it in the first place.
Why can't the TARDIS land on the ship?
The Doctor
2018-03-02 16:39:59 UTC
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On 25 Dec 2010, Agamemnon brought the following to the attention of
Post by Agamemnon
Like, he
can't just bundle them all into the TARDIS and transfer them onto the
planet's surface in the hour he has to do it [...]
Correct. He couldn't land the TARDIS on it in the first place.
Why can't the TARDIS land on the ship?
Coordinates in turbulent space.
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Daniel60
2018-03-03 10:16:14 UTC
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On 25 Dec 2010, Agamemnon brought the following to the attention of
Post by Agamemnon
Like, he
can't just bundle them all into the TARDIS and transfer them onto the
planet's surface in the hour he has to do it [...]
Correct. He couldn't land the TARDIS on it in the first place.
Why can't the TARDIS land on the ship?
Coordinates in turbulent space.
Garbage!!
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The Doctor
2018-03-03 14:35:43 UTC
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On 25 Dec 2010, Agamemnon brought the following to the attention of
Post by Agamemnon
Like, he
can't just bundle them all into the TARDIS and transfer them onto the
planet's surface in the hour he has to do it [...]
Correct. He couldn't land the TARDIS on it in the first place.
Why can't the TARDIS land on the ship?
Coordinates in turbulent space.
Garbage!!
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How?
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Daniel60
2018-03-04 08:38:24 UTC
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On 25 Dec 2010, Agamemnon brought the following to the attention of
Post by Agamemnon
Like, he
can't just bundle them all into the TARDIS and transfer them onto the
planet's surface in the hour he has to do it [...]
Correct. He couldn't land the TARDIS on it in the first place.
Why can't the TARDIS land on the ship?
Coordinates in turbulent space.
Garbage!!
How?
Every time The TARDIS re-materialises, it re-materialises on an object
(planet, asteroid, whatever) which is moving in "turbulent" space!!

Time and Time and Time again!!

So your "Coordinates in turbulent space" response is garbage, idiot!!
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Timothy Bruening
2018-03-04 09:44:48 UTC
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On 25 Dec 2010, Agamemnon brought the following to the attention of
Post by Agamemnon
Like, he
can't just bundle them all into the TARDIS and transfer them onto the
planet's surface in the hour he has to do it [...]
Correct. He couldn't land the TARDIS on it in the first place.
Why can't the TARDIS land on the ship?
Coordinates in turbulent space.
Garbage!!
How?
Every time The TARDIS re-materialises, it re-materialises on an object
(planet, asteroid, whatever) which is moving in "turbulent" space!!
Time and Time and Time again!!
So your "Coordinates in turbulent space" response is garbage, idiot!!
I have seen it floating in space!
The Doctor
2018-03-04 13:39:45 UTC
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On 25 Dec 2010, Agamemnon brought the following to the attention of
Post by Agamemnon
Like, he
can't just bundle them all into the TARDIS and transfer them onto the
planet's surface in the hour he has to do it [...]
Correct. He couldn't land the TARDIS on it in the first place.
Why can't the TARDIS land on the ship?
Coordinates in turbulent space.
Garbage!!
How?
Every time The TARDIS re-materialises, it re-materialises on an object
(planet, asteroid, whatever) which is moving in "turbulent" space!!
Time and Time and Time again!!
So your "Coordinates in turbulent space" response is garbage, idiot!!
I have seen it floating in space!
Or even dead in space.
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Daniel60
2018-03-04 12:12:15 UTC
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On 25 Dec 2010, Agamemnon brought the following to the attention of
Post by Agamemnon
Like, he
can't just bundle them all into the TARDIS and transfer them onto the
planet's surface in the hour he has to do it [...]
Correct. He couldn't land the TARDIS on it in the first place.
Why can't the TARDIS land on the ship?
Coordinates in turbulent space.
Garbage!!
How?
Every time The TARDIS re-materialises, it re-materialises on an object
(planet, asteroid, whatever) which is moving in "turbulent" space!!
Time and Time and Time again!!
So your "Coordinates in turbulent space" response is garbage, idiot!!
I have seen it floating in space!
Yes, Tim, when it is getting from one Time/Location to another
Time/Location, it does appear to float in Time/Space, and, indeed, in
the latest Christmas Episode, The (female) Doctor fell out of The TARDIS
whilst it "floated" in Space.

So what??
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Timothy Bruening
2018-03-05 17:38:52 UTC
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On 25 Dec 2010, Agamemnon brought the following to the attention of
Post by Agamemnon
Like, he
can't just bundle them all into the TARDIS and transfer them onto the
planet's surface in the hour he has to do it [...]
Correct. He couldn't land the TARDIS on it in the first place.
Why can't the TARDIS land on the ship?
Coordinates in turbulent space.
Garbage!!
How?
Every time The TARDIS re-materialises, it re-materialises on an object
(planet, asteroid, whatever) which is moving in "turbulent" space!!
Time and Time and Time again!!
So your "Coordinates in turbulent space" response is garbage, idiot!!
I have seen it floating in space!
Yes, Tim, when it is getting from one Time/Location to another
Time/Location, it does appear to float in Time/Space, and, indeed, in
the latest Christmas Episode, The (female) Doctor fell out of The TARDIS
whilst it "floated" in Space.
I have seen the TARDIS floating still in normal space.
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On 25 Dec 2010, Agamemnon brought the following to the attention of
Post by Agamemnon
Like, he
can't just bundle them all into the TARDIS and transfer them onto the
planet's surface in the hour he has to do it [...]
Correct. He couldn't land the TARDIS on it in the first place.
Why can't the TARDIS land on the ship?
Coordinates in turbulent space.
Garbage!!
How?
Every time The TARDIS re-materialises, it re-materialises on an object
(planet, asteroid, whatever) which is moving in "turbulent" space!!
Time and Time and Time again!!
So your "Coordinates in turbulent space" response is garbage, idiot!!
I have seen it floating in space!
Yes, Tim, when it is getting from one Time/Location to another
Time/Location, it does appear to float in Time/Space, and, indeed, in
the latest Christmas Episode, The (female) Doctor fell out of The TARDIS
whilst it "floated" in Space.
I have seen the TARDIS floating still in normal space.
i have been the tardis floating still in normal space
The Doctor
2018-03-05 22:25:15 UTC
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On 25 Dec 2010, Agamemnon brought the following to the attention of
Post by Agamemnon
Like, he
can't just bundle them all into the TARDIS and transfer them onto the
planet's surface in the hour he has to do it [...]
Correct. He couldn't land the TARDIS on it in the first place.
Why can't the TARDIS land on the ship?
Coordinates in turbulent space.
Garbage!!
How?
Every time The TARDIS re-materialises, it re-materialises on an object
(planet, asteroid, whatever) which is moving in "turbulent" space!!
Time and Time and Time again!!
So your "Coordinates in turbulent space" response is garbage, idiot!!
I have seen it floating in space!
Yes, Tim, when it is getting from one Time/Location to another
Time/Location, it does appear to float in Time/Space, and, indeed, in
the latest Christmas Episode, The (female) Doctor fell out of The TARDIS
whilst it "floated" in Space.
I have seen the TARDIS floating still in normal space.
Even dodged a missile.
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2018-03-06 08:50:07 UTC
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Even dodged a missile.
Ahh! No!! Why do you ask, idiot??
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2018-03-06 14:52:32 UTC
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Even dodged a missile.
Ahh! No!! Why do you ask, idiot??
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Let me guess. You do not recall.
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Even dodged a missile.
Ahh! No!! Why do you ask, idiot??
Let me guess. You do not recall.
Well, I know I forget many things but I'm sure I would have remembered
if I had ever had to dodge a missile!!
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Even dodged a missile.
Ahh! No!! Why do you ask, idiot??
Let me guess. You do not recall.
Well, I know I forget many things but I'm sure I would have remembered
if I had ever had to dodge a missile!!
LOL!
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2018-03-07 15:19:06 UTC
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Even dodged a missile.
Ahh! No!! Why do you ask, idiot??
Let me guess. You do not recall.
Well, I know I forget many things but I'm sure I would have remembered
if I had ever had to dodge a missile!!
LOL!
Argageddon Factor PArt 1
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Even dodged a missile.
Ahh! No!! Why do you ask, idiot??
Let me guess. You do not recall.
Well, I know I forget many things but I'm sure I would have remembered
if I had ever had to dodge a missile!!
LOL!
Argageddon Factor PArt 1
What??
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Armageddon Factor Part 1
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Even dodged a missile.
Ahh! No!! Why do you ask, idiot??
Let me guess. You do not recall.
Well, I know I forget many things but I'm sure I would have remembered
if I had ever had to dodge a missile!!
LOL!
Argageddon Factor PArt 1
What??
Armageddon Factor Part 1
Ah!!
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Even dodged a missile.
Ahh! No!! Why do you ask, idiot??
Let me guess. You do not recall.
Well, I know I forget many things but I'm sure I would have remembered
if I had ever had to dodge a missile!!
LOL!
Argageddon Factor PArt 1
What??
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Armageddon Factor Part 1
When I saw this story for 1st time, I expected to see mushroom clouds to sprout everywhere!
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Even dodged a missile.
Ahh! No!! Why do you ask, idiot??
Let me guess. You do not recall.
Well, I know I forget many things but I'm sure I would have remembered
if I had ever had to dodge a missile!!
LOL!
Argageddon Factor PArt 1
What??
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Armageddon Factor Part 1
When I saw this story for 1st time, I expected to see mushroom clouds to sprout everywhere!
Everyone is underground.
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Even dodged a missile.
Ahh! No!! Why do you ask, idiot??
Let me guess. You do not recall.
Well, I know I forget many things but I'm sure I would have remembered
if I had ever had to dodge a missile!!
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Argageddon Factor Part 1
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2018-03-07 07:31:52 UTC
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On Saturday, December 25, 2010 at 2:06:31 PM UTC-8, The Face of
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On 25 Dec 2010, Agamemnon brought the following to the attention of
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Like, he
can't just bundle them all into the TARDIS and transfer them onto the
planet's surface in the hour he has to do it [...]
Correct. He couldn't land the TARDIS on it in the first place.
Why can't the TARDIS land on the ship?
Coordinates in turbulent space.
Garbage!!
How?
Every time The TARDIS re-materialises, it re-materialises on an object
(planet, asteroid, whatever) which is moving in "turbulent" space!!
Time and Time and Time again!!
So your "Coordinates in turbulent space" response is garbage, idiot!!
I have seen it floating in space!
Yes, Tim, when it is getting from one Time/Location to another
Time/Location, it does appear to float in Time/Space, and, indeed, in
the latest Christmas Episode, The (female) Doctor fell out of The TARDIS
whilst it "floated" in Space.
I have seen the TARDIS floating still in normal space.
Even dodged a missile.
When did that happen?
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2018-03-07 15:19:26 UTC
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can't just bundle them all into the TARDIS and transfer
them onto the
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planet's surface in the hour he has to do it [...]
Correct. He couldn't land the TARDIS on it in the first place.
Why can't the TARDIS land on the ship?
Coordinates in turbulent space.
Garbage!!
How?
Every time The TARDIS re-materialises, it re-materialises on an object
(planet, asteroid, whatever) which is moving in "turbulent" space!!
Time and Time and Time again!!
So your "Coordinates in turbulent space" response is garbage, idiot!!
I have seen it floating in space!
Yes, Tim, when it is getting from one Time/Location to another
Time/Location, it does appear to float in Time/Space, and, indeed, in
the latest Christmas Episode, The (female) Doctor fell out of The TARDIS
whilst it "floated" in Space.
I have seen the TARDIS floating still in normal space.
Even dodged a missile.
When did that happen?
Armageddon Factor PArt 1
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Like, he
can't just bundle them all into the TARDIS and transfer them onto the
planet's surface in the hour he has to do it [...]
Correct. He couldn't land the TARDIS on it in the first place.
Why can't the TARDIS land on the ship?
Coordinates in turbulent space.
Garbage!!
How?
Every time The TARDIS re-materialises, it re-materialises on an object
(planet, asteroid, whatever) which is moving in "turbulent" space!!
Time and Time and Time again!!
So your "Coordinates in turbulent space" response is garbage, idiot!!
I have seen it floating in space!
Yes, Tim, when it is getting from one Time/Location to another
Time/Location, it does appear to float in Time/Space, and, indeed, in
the latest Christmas Episode, The (female) Doctor fell out of The TARDIS
whilst it "floated" in Space.
I have seen the TARDIS floating still in normal space.
Yeap, it just occurred to me that we saw The TARDIS floating in "Normal"
space when it was chasing Donna in the Taxi.

And, a the same time, the Earth was rotating on its axis .... and
revolving around the Sun, which is also revolving around the Galactic
Centre, so The TARDIS' flight path "in turbulent space" would have been
very complex.
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Like, he
can't just bundle them all into the TARDIS and transfer them onto the
planet's surface in the hour he has to do it [...]
Correct. He couldn't land the TARDIS on it in the first place.
Why can't the TARDIS land on the ship?
Coordinates in turbulent space.
Garbage!!
How?
Every time The TARDIS re-materialises, it re-materialises on an object
(planet, asteroid, whatever) which is moving in "turbulent" space!!
Time and Time and Time again!!
So your "Coordinates in turbulent space" response is garbage, idiot!!
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So you like the recent season of DW then.
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So you like the recent season of DW then.
WHAT??
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So you like the recent season of DW then.
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So you like the recent season of DW then.
WHAT??
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On 25 Dec 2010, Agamemnon brought the following to the
Like, he can't just bundle them all into the TARDIS and
transfer themonto the
planet's surface in the hour he has to do it [...]
Correct. He couldn't land the TARDIS on it in the first
place.
Why can't the TARDIS land on the ship?
Coordinates in turbulent space.
Garbage!!
How?
Every time The TARDIS re-materialises, it re-materialises on an
object (planet, asteroid, whatever) which is moving in "turbulent"
space!!
Time and Time and Time again!!
So your "Coordinates in turbulent space" response is garbage,
idiot!!
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So you like the recent season of DW then.
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So you like the recent season of DW then.
WHAT??
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On 25 Dec 2010, Agamemnon brought the following to the
Like, he can't just bundle them all into the TARDIS and
transfer themonto the
planet's surface in the hour he has to do it [...]
Correct. He couldn't land the TARDIS on it in the first
place.
Why can't the TARDIS land on the ship?
Coordinates in turbulent space.
Garbage!!
How?
Every time The TARDIS re-materialises, it re-materialises on an
object (planet, asteroid, whatever) which is moving in "turbulent"
space!!
Time and Time and Time again!!
So your "Coordinates in turbulent space" response is garbage,
idiot!!
-- Daniel
So you like the recent season of DW then.
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You just honestly corrected yourself.
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So you like the recent season of DW then.
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If you did not SNIP the above you would get the idea.
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You just honestly corrected yourself.
What??
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I liked it too.
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I liked it too.
i missed curb.

i need to get myself caught up somehow. have to check the what do you call it, the menu or whatever on demand, oh yeah...maybe it's still there.

heard it's coming around again, too ? ?????
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So you like the recent season of DW then.
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I liked it too.
i missed curb.
i need to get myself caught up somehow. have to check the what do you call it, the menu or whatever on demand, oh yeah...maybe it's still there.
heard it's coming around again, too ? ?????
Curb coming back?
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So you like the recent season of DW then.
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I liked it too.
i missed curb.
i need to get myself caught up somehow. have to check the what do you
call it, the menu or whatever on demand, oh yeah...maybe it's still
there.
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heard it's coming around again, too ? ?????
Curb coming back?
Could be.
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I liked it too.
The Pilot was bad.

Twice Upon A Time is a real low! Even Twin Dilemma makes
better viewing material.
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A spaceship is about the crash into an alien planet and the Doctor has to
save all the people on board, with just his sonic screwdriver. Like, he
can't just bundle them all into the TARDIS and transfer them onto the
planet's surface in the hour he has to do it, and even that isn't enough
time, it's not like he couldn't make a dozen or more trips back in time to
take in more people, and nobody is particularly bothered about collateral
damage on the planet's surface either.
The bridge and command crew of the ship were a deliberate parody of Star
Trek with an obvious Geordie La Forge joke at the beginning.
The kid who played young Kazran put in a very good performance. There
wasn't much of Amy or Rory in this episode and Matt Smith went over the
top with his Jack Sparrow routine at the start but soon calmed down and
put in a good performance. The performances by Michael Gambon and Katherine
Jenkins were also good.
The special effects and sets down on the planet were mostly ok but the
bridge of the spaceship didn't look very convincing, but at least it looked
more credible than the Titanic bridge in Voyage of the Damned. Obviously as
I said in earlier reviews Stephen Moffat is following exactly the same list
stroy outlines that RTD was following when he produced the series, a
spaceship is about the crash into an alien planet and the Doctor has to save
all the people on board, but Stephen Moffat does it much better.
After all the prancing around at the start it's actually a very good story.
Pity about the sad ending.
10/10
I recorded this, but deliberately kept from watching it until now.

I have to say it was very well done, from the opening line to the
closing statement, very well done.

Doctor who channeling Charles Dickens, and why not.

What really made this story was its layered use of time. A story
where the central premise of time travel, is right there at the fore.

A side from the opening DW theme music, which seems to have
forgotten its role to transport us to this make believe world, the
music throughout this story was well done, not as brassy or OTT as
previous efforts.

10/10
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A spaceship is about the crash into an alien planet and the Doctor has to
save all the people on board, with just his sonic screwdriver. Like, he
can't just bundle them all into the TARDIS and transfer them onto the
planet's surface in the hour he has to do it, and even that isn't enough
time, it's not like he couldn't make a dozen or more trips back in time to
take in more people, and nobody is particularly bothered about collateral
damage on the planet's surface either.
The bridge and command crew of the ship were a deliberate parody of Star
Trek with an obvious Geordie La Forge joke at the beginning.
The kid who played young Kazran put in a very good performance. There
wasn't much of Amy or Rory in this episode and Matt Smith went over the
top with his Jack Sparrow routine at the start but soon calmed down and
put in a good performance. The performances by Michael Gambon and Katherine
Jenkins were also good.
The special effects and sets down on the planet were mostly ok but the
bridge of the spaceship didn't look very convincing, but at least it looked
more credible than the Titanic bridge in Voyage of the Damned. Obviously as
I said in earlier reviews Stephen Moffat is following exactly the same list
stroy outlines that RTD was following when he produced the series, a
spaceship is about the crash into an alien planet and the Doctor has to save
all the people on board, but Stephen Moffat does it much better.
After all the prancing around at the start it's actually a very good story.
Pity about the sad ending.
10/10
I recorded this, but deliberately kept from watching it until now.
I have to say it was very well done, from the opening line to the
closing statement, very well done.
Doctor who channeling Charles Dickens, and why not.
What really made this story was its layered use of time. A story
where the central premise of time travel, is right there at the fore.
A side from the opening DW theme music, which seems to have
forgotten its role to transport us to this make believe world, the
music throughout this story was well done, not as brassy or OTT as
previous efforts.
10/10
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