Post by Andrew MPost by AgamemnonThe zero gravity sequence at the start was very well done but
unfortunately it was ruined by the story itself which was complete and
utter clueless lunatistical codswallop.
The Doctor is blinded and he's able to rewire and reprogramme a
nuclear reactor control system, one that he's never ever seen before?
A keyboard is a keyboard. If you can touch-type you can write a program
Last time I modified or debugged a program I needed to see the code
first so I could make changes to the right part despite the fact I can
type with my eyes closed as I have done just now, and read through the
documentation as well as needing to see which part of the IDE I was in
to do it. And we're assuming that the Doctor was able to navigate to the
relevant project code, compilers, dependencies and so on.
And let's not forget that the Doctor was typing with space gloves on.
You can't touch type with gloves on. It's ridiculous.
Post by Andrew MPost by AgamemnonMoffat is totally out of his mind.
What was the point of parodying the Star Trek, "Space - the Final
Frontier" voice over only for Capaldi to make a complete and utter
fool of himself doing it?
Once again a bunch morons are sent out into space, on a mining ship,
without any training and no clue whatsoever how to do anything in
accordance with health and safety regulations which look to be totally
non-existent in any case.
Yes they do have training. If you had actually watched this episode you
would know that. The opening scene tells you that these people are
trained if you just open your ears and listen. Pretty much every scene
Trained to do what? Clearly not the job they're supposed to be doing and
if they have been trained it's obvious that they didn't actually learn
anything.
Post by Andrew Mwhere the remaining four crew members are involved tells you that they
are trained.
What? Every single scene these morons appear in tells you that they are
complete and utter imbeciles reacting to events as they happen and
trying to figure out what to do whereas if they had actually been
trained and learned anything they would know how to handle any
eventuality and go though a standard procedure to deal with it like
NASA/ESA astronauts do.
For example when the Doctor enters the station and claims to be to
official rescue team there should have been a standard procedure to
verify his identity and they would have instantly known him to be an
impostor if he did not react as expected to that procedure.
These people acted like complete amateurs like online gamers trying to
be military commanders without a clue how the military works or the
discipline to follow orders from their superiors.
Post by Andrew MPost by AgamemnonYou have Capaldi drawing a skull on the blackboard when lecturing
about what happens if someone is exposed to empty space without a suit
and then it turning out that he's lecturing about the wrong subject.
Totally amateurish foreshadowing by someone who thinks Doctor Who is a
sentimentalist situation comedy. More sentimentalist crap at the
start. Rather than write a proper relationship letting it progress and
then killing of the he has her say 'I want to have your children' to
the man and then she's killed off. Terrible writing. Absolutely
terrible. Why should I give a damn about either of them when the
writer hasn't properly introduced their characters to the audience and
built them up in advance?
Because we're not on the autistic spectrum?
Whereas the writer obviously is since he's not actually done the
character development properly. "When we get home I want to have kids
with you. Oh fuck, the radio doesn't work." The only thing that that
tells you is that the guy is a wet imbecile or a complete jerk and the
writer is even worse.
On top of that when the two of them were moving on the platforms they
were making sounds. Sound does not travel in a vacuum so why were sound
effects added for their footsteps?
Post by Andrew MPost by AgamemnonThe entire emphasis of the drivel masquerading as a script is in
completely the wrong direction and the writer thinks everyone watching
can read his mind and connect the missing back story in between the
lines.
Well I did. It wasn't that hard.
The job of the view is not to imagine the back story that should have
been put their by the writer. It's the writer's job to put it there.
I didn't give a stuff for any of these people. The way it should have
been done properly was like in The Robots of Death where I actually
cared when people were killed by the robots.
Post by Andrew MPost by AgamemnonHow can a company be allowed to murder its own employees without any
consequences? This series is a complete and utter joke.
My great-great Grandad was a railway surfaceman in the 1880s. He died
when he was run over by a train. His death was recorded in the local
paper which also noted that another surfaceman had died in much the same
place two weeks earlier. There was no police investigation . The raliway
company's entire report into his death reads "Company servant. Want of
care". They didn't murder him, but neither did they care whether he
lived or died. Nor did the authorities. At what point does one become
the other?
This was not the 1880s. Both companies should have been sued. "Want of
care" is practically an admission of guilt of corporate manslaughter.
Post by Andrew MPost by AgamemnonDoctor Who has been turned into something worse than a pantomime with
loony left politically motivated script writing plummeting to the
depths of the Sylvester McCoy era and even lower still.
You think that leftist views began with McCoy? Really? Actually they're
pretty much absent from McCoy's stint. Try going back further. Look
particularly at the stories written by Malcom Hulke for the Pertwee and
Tom Baker
We are talking about the loony left. If you want to do a story about
corporate greed properly then look at The Sun Makers and even then these
left wing stories were never Doctor Who's best.
Post by Andrew MPost by AgamemnonIf the series isn't already dead by now it will be if the next 8
episodes have Capaldi thinking he's Daredevil.
6/10 for entertainment
It stopped being entertaining the monument the parody of a 'plot'
became impossible to follow when the Doctor is supposed to have
exchanged space suits with Bill and been blinded, none of which was
actually shown.
How was that "hard to follow"? I got it. Most people would, I am sure,
The showed flashes of Bill without a helmet, then with one, then without
one... then other stuff... fuck knew what was actually going on.
Post by Andrew M"get it". What I really don't get is your problem here. I have a hearing
problem. If words are not clearly enunciated or if there is a lot of
background noise, I don't hear them. I understood exactly what had
happened from the spoken word. Why is that so hard for you?
Television is there to SHOW. If stuff that happened has to be explained
in the dialogue then the writer has failed. Even worse is if entire
scenes have to be narrated by the protagonists rather than actually
filmed. It felt like the early 90s reconstruction of Shada where Tom
Baker was brought in to narrate all the missing sections which were
never filmed because of a loony left strike at the BBC in 1979. But at
least the video was supplied with a copy of Douglas Addams' script so
you could read everything that went on. What was there here? Nothing.
How did the Doctor get blinded? By what? Why didn't Nardole give his
suit to Bill since he's a robot and robot's don't need air. Why was he
even wearing a suit anyway? And how did they escape decompression?
Post by Andrew MPost by Agamemnon1/10 for scriptwriting
Complete and utter garbage.
How can you talk to each other through a vacuum even if you are
wearing a spacesuit? There is no sign of any radio being used when
their were on the ship.
They were wearing the suits and the suits contained communication
systems. The first scene told you that
It didn't sound like any radio to me. Where did the carbon dioxide go
which they breathed out? It would have been far cheaper to have
pressurised the entire space station and used large CO2 scrubbers than
build lots of smaller ones for constant use in space suits.
Post by Andrew MPost by AgamemnonWhy would anyone work for a company where you have to pay for the air
you need to breath and do your job properly?
You mean like paying for the tools you need to mine coal or ore? People
have done that in the past
We are not talking about the past. These people were employees not
self-employed contractors. If they were self-employed they would have
brought their own ship which would have been fully pressurised just like
building sub-contractors bring their own bulldozers, forklifts, cabins
and cranes.
Post by Andrew MPost by AgamemnonWhy would you mine copper from asteroids which you can readily find on
the planet instead of gold or platinum?
Because at this time all the mineable deposits of all these things have
become depleted on Earth?
Where did it say that? There's plenty of minerals in the Earth's mantle.
Why didn't they mine copper or Mars (assuming this was set in our solar
system and the asteroid belt is beyond Mars) or one of Jupiter's moons?
Post by Andrew MBecause a new use for copper has been found
Like what? What's wrong with recycling?
Post by Andrew Mthat makes it especially vauable? More likely this mining mission is on
the borders of profitability, which is why the Doctor's gambit works.
It's a venture thatmakes a little bit of money but not a huge amount.
It would have made more sense if these people had been employed by a
company to build a ship in space.
Post by Andrew MPost by AgamemnonWhy would anyone build a space suit with the ability to kill the
people wearing it? Why would anyone wear one?
It's software. I'm pretty sure people don't design computers that can be
locked up by ransomware, but if there's a back door, especially one
which doesn't identify the person activating it.... Why wuld anyone wear
one? Just a guess - maybe the company didn't let them in on the whole
"Your suit will kill you" thing
You've got to be joking. A company using a space suit which killed it's
occupants would have been latched on by the media and politicians and
they would never have been allowed to get away with it. Computer
software is designed so that it cannot put it's users lives in jeopardy.
When the NHS computers were infected by a virus all the MRI scanners
were shut down and scans were canceled to protect patients lives.
Post by Andrew MPost by AgamemnonA total fucking utterly moronic travesty of a PANTOMIME!!!!!!!!
Aggie, you remind me of a manager I once had. He saw things in really
black and white terms. You were either great at your job, and he could
see nothing but good in what you did. Or you were shit at your job and
he could see nothing but bad in what you did. He was f***king useless as
a manager because he couldn't see shades of grey. I always suspected he
was on the spectrum somewhere.
Yer right. Anyone who doesn't agree with you must be autistic. Well I'll
have you know that when I read the first chapter of Synthetic Men of
Mars by Edgar Rice Burroughs I almost cried. You'll figure out why if
you read all the preceding books in sequenced. ERB did all the ground
work and set up all the back story to enable that. The same for the
final part of Gray Lensman and Children of the Lens by E E Smith.
The writer of this story did FUCK ALL to generate any empathy or emotion
let alone credible relationships!
Post by Andrew MYour "reviews" remind me of him. You're a shit critic because you've
made up your mind before you watch the episode that you're not going to
Did the episode convince me to like it? No! It was just about bearable
until all the flashy stuff in the middle and the Doctor coming out of it
totally blind but he could still rewire a nuclear reactor control system
he'd never seen and re-programme it's software including overriding all
the safety systems. Not even Marvel's Daredevil could do something like
that and the Doctor doesn't even have any of his powers.
Post by Andrew Mlike it. Do yourself a favour. Stop watching. You remind me of another
poster who was here a while back - Ignis Fatuus. Anything that wasn't
Hartnell was flawed.